Inception (with implanted spoilers)

o hai

in dreams 'you never know how you got there' w/all the exposition the dream warrior history was never explained past 'developed by the military for training purposes'

one point of frustration - the leo incepted mol w/a dangerous concept in limbo reveal couldve been pretty weighty if they hadnt fucking given it away by having him say 'inception is possible, i incepted mol this one time lol' like just have him say 'its possible' or whatever - this bothered me

well, tbrr (or not ha), uh, i didn't rly get how leo incepted mol when they were in limbo. what does that entail? how? incepting cilian murphbro entailed all kinds of charadery and inventing situations etc. how did he trick is missus. also, you know, it's just an idea. in fifty years you'd prolly incept loads of ideas into yr significant other, right?

That's what she...um, never mind.

also, has Leo's voice changed yet?

tbf i incept people all the time irl 'hay we should go see that new what is dreams movie' 'o ok sure'

he actually uses a kind of minnesotan thing here. an odd choice but effective.

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him: "maybe there is no real"
her: "wow i'd never thought of that before"
him: "clearly you never went to college"

'lets put our heads on the train tracks now lol ok u crazy frickin hot french one'

Anna Kalolina

A bit I remembered in talking with the folks I saw this with last night -- I was actually pleasantly surprised by a couple of things that didn't happen, most especially (in light of Haas's character at the start) what I was convinced was going to be one of the team members turning to out be an antagonist/fifth column/inside man type. So when the team saw it all the way through as far as they could when I had been primed for Page or Gordon-Levitt or somebody to reveal their true colors, that was unexpected enough, and made Haas a red herring.

Related to that was Cotillard's character since I figured her first appearance and actions was explained away by her being his opposite in the employ of Saito, so the slow degradation of assumptions that followed was a good touch. Like much of the movie at base it wasn't a groundbreaking move by any means but it was nicely handled.

i thought that about edith piaf too ned!

and mayne, i agree that the hallway fight scene was good, definitely the best in the movie. the moombassa stuff / van chase was pretty weak tho

bothered me a bit how they played so fast and loose with the time differential between the different layers - if they were really on different clocks the gravity shifts wouldnt be so sudden, etc. but i was generally ok with it, it was for a reason.

i thought for a movie the last hour of which takes place with characters simultaneously in a dream, in a dream within a dream, in a dream within a dream within a dream, and in a sort of ur-dream limbo, it was pretty clear what was going on. some of the details about what when where with the kicks and all that i glossed over.

as for the last shot im betting it was jsut nolan's idea of a funny joke on the audience, which it was

it was def clear what was going on (a second viewing was surprising to me at how neatly interlocked the whole premise was during the last 30 minutes), but the mystery ending kinda calls many earlier details into question.

maybe it was a bad move to retrospectively muddle an otherwise admirably clear complicated movie

tbh i would have felt a little cheated if there wasnt some kind of GOTCHA/OR IS IT...? ending

feel like that was an admission that there is no figuring it out, jus a trippy movie abt dreams

well that could have been done in a disclaimer at the end

Inception: the Unbreakable cut.

If Shamwow had directed this Michael Caine would have explained to the audience how this was all a dream at the end.

I think the idea is supposed to be, "it's not important whether or not the top keeps spinning, cuz Leo accomplished what he set out to." Still unnecessary, though.

then they should have put THAT on a title card at the end

If only movies were more like NES games.

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See, right there, it's the snow fortress after global warming:

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broken link - MUST BE A DREAM

The projector broke midway through my screening, and someone predictably (but amusingly) yelled "it was all a dream!"

and how do u know it WASNT?

The dream is coming from inside the message board.

I was thinking they need to make a version of this movie about alcoholics, called Ginception

SPOILER SPOILER DO WE HAVE TO KEEP DOING THIS OR IS IT NOW ASSUMED THAT WE'RE SPOILING

I really liked how the three dream levels were happening at different speeds: three-pronged stories (see Traffic, etc.) usually do it with color or film quality, so having the speeds be the central thing was pretty ingenious.

In the end, to make a big generalization, I think movies about dreams are too meta to engage me fully. Good movies work like dreams, anyway. Same trouble I had with Synechdoche and Jacob's Ladder: if it feels like none of this might be real, then the stakes disappear and even the fundamentals of suspending disbelief and seeing characters as characters goes away. It ends up feeling more like video-game logic than dramatic logic.

So I spent the first half admiring it more than enjoying it, and not trusting that anything I was seeing was actually part of an actual plot. But I left wanting to see it a second time, just to reconcile the first 15 minutes with the last.

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Can i just say that the thing i really liked was the way they got around the stando bipartite climax, that is, i assumed there would have to be a second attempt at dreaming that they would have to go into where they would have to be winging it, but instead they had the option of going deeper into the dream world so that each reality had to be passed back through.

Also thought he kindof gave himself a get out of jail card w/ regard the emotional sterility w/ the ciaran murphy plot where his emotional journey is itself just an object of their tactics, manipulations and mechanisms just as theirs are to the film. Like he was stating pretty outright that the whole thing was just an elaborate contraption.

this was amaaaaazing but

fuckin everyone mumbled in this movie

― max

felt like i missed a lot of dialogue.

Too drawn out for me ...and two sections I really hated: the snow section and the CGI city bit that Leonardo had created with his wife.

I'm sure I'll hate this movie

i didn't hate it but tried to take a nap in the middle of it. i liked the collapsing buildings. it was about 30 minutes too long.

this was really great but yeah, coulda tightened up the last 30 mins with the snow army and yet a whole nuther level. no mumbling in the Cinemark as they had it cranked up to 20

they also showed the trailer to Shamalamadingdong's Devil which looks godawful and had the whole theater groaning in unison when we learned it was his.

quite entertaining!

i thought the following things were kind of funny: using michael caine in the vaguely maternal stern but forgiving wise man role again, using edith piaf as signal music when US audiences know mlle cotillard for that role, and giving joseph gordon loveitt all the crazy wirework fight scenes

oh and wtf are you guys on about w/ "spy who loved me", the snow scenes were a straight rip of the snow level in MW2 right down to the rifle leo was using

nah fuck that...they were bond/goldeneye

hm yeah the base itself wasn't very MW2...

thought the whole thing was fairly good but had that feel of a movie people say "oh wow this was amazing" about without actually being able to rationally explain why diff stuff happened...not sure it'd all hold up to much analysis.

the simultaneous timeline stuff was brilliantly done tho, and the way the whole thing made you confused as to what was reality and what was a dream was quite effective. by the end i was trying to remember which layer was actually the top one...

i was never really confused as to which was which tbh, they always made it pretty plain... except for maybe the ending. which i guess you could interrupt as, leo never got out of the "deep" final dream layer state he went down in to find cillian murphy and he's still there. that would be my "alt" explanation.

Just exited the theater. Good for summer fare, but I think the longer term appraisal will be not great. Stylistically a bit slipshod, and not in ways motivated by the plot. (Spoilers) As video game levels I'd prefer to spend more time in zero-gravity hotel elevator and less time in snow prison FPS. The Mol background doesn't add the gravitas Nolan thinks it does. Same film with one less dream recursion would be tighter and require less exposition. And DiCaprio still thinks squinting is an emotion.

Would watch Existenz over this - JJ Leigh groks fantasy dream femme way better than M Cotillard.

everyone can stop saying spoilers now

nah i mean i knew what was reality and a dream but by the end i felt the sheer amount of levels made it sort of convoluted in a way that made the dreams vs reality theme heighten in a good way.

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This was great and i'm pretty thankful that i got to see an original mega-budget sci-fi actioner this summer rather than the thousandth iteration of a franchise. Long may it continue.

The whole movie took place inside an I Phone

this was amaaaaazing but

fuckin everyone mumbled in this movie

― max

felt like i missed a lot of dialogue.

― just1n3

amazing movie. it didnt drag in any way for me (partially thanks to my cleverly timed pee break where I probably didnt miss much)
having a huge screen and giant rumbling bass effects to accompany the higher symphonic music kept my attention. plus they were all "we have to hurry" the whole time so the general pacing was pretty upbeat.

however, our projector was extremely out of focus as soon as they started rolling the previews. me and some people went out there and told them to fix it. they had it fixed pretty quickly but I could tell it was a shabby fixing because there was a distinct blur around all the text in the previews. This bothered me enough to tell a manager about it and get free re-admit passes for my whole family. My older sister was like "everything looked great I don't know what your talking about. So what if the credits looked a little blurry". Ehhh, maybe it didn't bother her because she didn't notice and have this problem in the back of her subconscious during the whole movie. I dunno, have any of you ever been bothered by a bit of blur when the projector is slightly off-focus?

Plus the lady next to me had on one of those jangly bracelets that make a lot of high pitched clanky noise everytime she moved her hand... and she answered her phone during the movie and was on it for like half a minute.