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LA Times puff piece on things but there's some useful bits among the slop.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2007 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link
that article ends kind of abruptly!
― s1ocki, Monday, 21 May 2007 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link
SEQUEL
― s1ocki, Monday, 21 May 2007 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link
my daemon is a fox.
― milo z, Monday, 21 May 2007 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Okay, so. As muttered above, I've had the damn thing sitting around for a bit and had promised myself I would obv. read it all before the movie came out. I'd mentioned the books to a friend of mine, she went and got her own copy from the library and started to read it and I was all, "Okay, it's a sign."
So I read the first one today. Lived up to all the promise. And to celebrate I then saw the trailer, which I'd carefully avoided until now. This'll be good. (But isn't Mrs. Coulter supposed to be a brunette?)
More thoughts on all the books when I've read them all...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Read in a single day? Even with all those long words like 'magisterium'? I think you'll like the second one (The Subtle Knife) even more. It really does build the momentum.
― Huey in Melbourne, Thursday, 24 May 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link
...as for the brunette issue, Pullman stated he originally wrote the part with Nicole Kidman in mind, and she is, lest we forget, a gingah. I think in the film her golden blonde hair will set her apart from the witches, i.e. Eva Green and her dark ilk.
― Huey in Melbourne, Thursday, 24 May 2007 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link
Read in a single day? Even with all those long words like 'magisterium'?
It's a quick read! And I don't mean that as an insult, rather as a sign of appreciation -- he takes you into the world created very easily and the various characters and plot points are quick to grasp, if the deeper theology requires reflection. Also, the setting reminded me a hell of a lot of Randall Garrett's Lord D'Arcy stories, of which I'm v. fond, so it was easy to accept an alternate England/Earth setting mixing the supernatural and the technical.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link
i mainlined the first two over last weekend. they remind me more of l'engle than lewis, carroll, or rowling â and the writing is much lovelier, to boot.
― remy bean, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:31 (seventeen years ago) link
i'm a lion named sophia
― remy bean, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link
L'Engle! That's a *sharp* comparison -- as soon as I read that it all clicked on that front.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Randall Garrett's Lord D'Arcy stories
totally forgot about those, i loved them.
i'm surprised most of the initial rush of hype isn't even mentioning the anti-theist angle. i guess they're saving that up for the big arts-section think pieces this fall.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:49 (seventeen years ago) link
in the meantime, i'll be preparing my rebuttal.
― remy bean, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Unsurprisingly, given the fact it's US-financed, the 'anti-theist' angle has been toned down in the film in favour of a more generic 'anti-authoritarian' slant. Even Pullman's backtracking a bit, saying that the 'Magisterium' might denote an umbrella organisation of all kinds of wickedness, not just the Catholic Church, as so brazenly alluded to in the books.
― Huey in Melbourne, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:53 (seventeen years ago) link
i'm surprised most of the initial rush of hype isn't even mentioning the anti-theist angle
"So I dunno, Bob, you think we should play that up given how most of America claims to believe in God?"
"Nah, Mark, better to let it lie for now."
Repeat as needed.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 May 2007 05:54 (seventeen years ago) link
I would have thought that the anti-Catholic aspect would have gone down a storm in the States, as the born-again section of Christian right often seems to give the impression that they think that all Catholics are Statnists...
― Stone Monkey, Thursday, 24 May 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Perhaps, but those who have read the final book know that God does in fact feature in a massive way, and, Statnists or no Statnists, believers in any monotheistic religion would take umbridge with the events. Quick, read the other two!!!
― Huey in Melbourne, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:24 (seventeen years ago) link
umbrage at the events. I think Umbridge is a place in the Midlands.
― Huey in Melbourne, Thursday, 24 May 2007 07:27 (seventeen years ago) link
I think there's another really obvious umbrage-attractor in the final book beyond the God stuff, but since there's a lot of ppl who haven't read them I will hold my tongue.
― Groke, Thursday, 24 May 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Isn't Umbridge where The Archers live?
― Stone Monkey, Thursday, 24 May 2007 12:56 (seventeen years ago) link
Philip Pullman and the Gay Agendar!
― Matt DC, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link
No no not even the gay agenda!
― Groke, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Ah yes, I think I know what you're talking about, right near the very end, correct? Wouldn't play too well in the midwest, so I imagine they'll tone it down considerably.
― chap, Thursday, 24 May 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link