Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

just been announced on sky as i read ailsa's post

press conference

Paul the Octopus says Moat will win this:

http://imgur.com/EuuMm.jpg

nothing about self inflicted or if he was shot by police

wtf at this statement?

yeah wtf

its just going to lead to internet rumours they botched it up

hes not even confirming the stand off is over. ffs.

Oh, and yes, from earlier, BBC 24 about 8 zillion times better than anyone that think Kay Burley is a journalist worth giving airtime to.

Right, so, well done Northumberland Police for getting their man without any police being injured. Really am off to bed now.

xpost only if people are stupid enough to start them. Like presumably assuming it's an empty ambulance heading off with a police convoy or something.

Ooh, hang on, his mate was there too. Maybe it's HIM that's hurt, not Moat or the police.

Have at it, conspiracy chaps.

Oh no, they said it was the suspect that was hurt. I need some fucking sleep, this is breaking my brain.

empty ambulance, or gazzas taxi home?

Gazza was making balloon animals but one burst, hence the 'gun shot' rumours.

gazza and the other guy get into brawl over who is Moat's real best mate. gazza glassed. police jump in. meanwhile moat ducks back into drains amidst confusion.

the eyewitness guy heard a shot then saw everyone rush towards him.

ooh, indiscernible shouting, that clears it up. This is the only reason I'm still awake (well that and a litre of coke), what's wrong with me?

Maybe they've all misheard. Paulo Wanchope's turned up to see Gazza. Not 'one shot'.

you were hoping jordan posted more results tonight

Yeah, I want to go to bed because I'm bored shitless with endless crappy speculating, but it's fascinating (the mechanics of the speculation, not the actual shite that's been spouted from all angles in absence of clear fact)

(presume I should have marked that as an xpost since it probably replies equally to the post about whichever ILM poll is being referred to above)

some footage now and you can hear 1 shot then dogs barking

it was either 'put the gun away' or 'get the dog away'

guy's had a gun in view for about six hours, nice idea to try and get him to put it away. should have thought of that earlier really.

Love the fact that Sky keep replaying that clip that starts with a guy saying "the officer's just fucked off".

Dear Kay Burley, please stop saying "Blues and twos", it is very annoying. Britain's probably most expensive manhunt. Probably. JOURNALISTIC FACTUAL ACCURACY THERE, FOLKS.

I still hate her. Back to the Beeb.

just waiting till I'm sure Lex is asleep so I can safely celebrate some indie pop...

I'm pretty sure that a couple of minutes ago a BBC person suggested that the heavy rain accelerated the ending. Wha.

lex is probably out clubbing

or are you his flatmate? lol

Kay Burley suggested earlier that it might end because the police were putting on their waterproofs and Moat was just wearing a jacket and hoodie. Despite the fact he's been hiding in a fucking drain and living rough for the best part of a week, seems exactly the sort that would give it up at the sight of a spot of bad weather.

this kay burley sounds like a right idiot, or her scriptwriters do maybe

but they said it was an overflow that was dry, the daily mail might even say it was luxurious!

if faced with a choice between getting wet and shooting yourself in the neck, I'm sure we'd all do the same.

hmm, sky now suggesting they did rush him and it wasnt after the shot.

Pash, she's all idiot all by herself.

Oh well, living in a dry drain for a week, that's different, no wonder he'd rather be shot than get rained on.

xpost mindmeld :-)

I love how ailsa wants to go to sleep but just cant drag herself away!

I already explained why. But I'm glad it's keeping you entertained.

And now I really am going to bed, because I have stuff do in the morning. Have fun with your speculation!

you will be back!

can't believe the police would try and jump the bloke if he was still armed, no matter how shit the weather is or how dark it was or how tired he was. something else has happened here.

yeah it doesnt make any sense, plus that guy said he saw it from his bedroom window and the shot was fired then they rushed them. So sky reporter probably hasn't heard that and is just talking shite.

rushed him

my guess fwiw
moat has gotten increasingly close to showing that he was going to shoot himself, so police sneak up behind in dark to get as close as possible. moat has noticed sneaking police, he's either fired at them or in panic mode has made a hash of killing himself (more likely). cops jump him.

or the hashed suicide ran almost parallel with the cops trying to stop him, aka jumping him.

stop talking about the weather! it's making me think they're all more deliriously tired than i am.

too many scenarios, so who knows.

the eyewitness guy def said they only rushed him after the shot was fired.

Sky reporter james matthews still going with the police rushed him line. Maybe he's been told off the record?

k I'm done for the night, time to pray that Gazza was somehow involved (reverse causality huzzah).

i'd say that he's tried to shoot his own neck out and missed half of it, but how the fuck could he miss a neck that fucking big!

god i'm tired