DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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the 2010 election has to be regarded as a bad joke, the most undemocratic shit ever pulled. they got away without saying what they would do. now they're doing it, surely people will... i dunno, *do something*.

Undemocratic? Hardly. The formed the govt legitmately. Getting away without saying what you're gonna do is exactly as Matt says, good opposition practice and very much a judgement on the incumbent. People don't get to 'do something' until the next general election, imo. Best off hoping that LibDems opt out early.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:59 (sixteen years ago)

I never realized before how insufferably smug Hague's voice is! He comes on the radio and he sounds like a cartoon villain. Like he's been so pampered, so entitled, so looked-after his entire life that he never needs to raise his voice above this bemused it's-all-in-hand drone.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:00 (sixteen years ago)

Getting away without saying what you're gonna do is exactly as Matt says, good opposition practice

Except this isn't what I said, this was the least scrutinised opposition in history, at least among those that had a realistic chance of forming a government. And clearly they didn't get away with it, because if they had they wouldn't be subject to the indignity of having to ask the LibDems to prop them up in a coalition they clearly hate.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:08 (sixteen years ago)

Getting away without saying what you're gonna do

How about getting away with doing the opposite of what you said you were gonna do? Like their coalition partners?

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:14 (sixteen years ago)

The Jamie Oliver-approach will not work in tackling public health problems like obesity and smoking, the health secretary says... Andrew Lansley told the British Medical Association conference in Brighton ... He said the TV chef's approach to school food had not had the desired effect - the number of children eating school meals had gone down instead of up.

'More pupils' eat school lunches

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 12:33 (sixteen years ago)

How about getting away with doing the opposite of what you said you were gonna do? Like their coalition partners?

Very elastic use of the term "getting away with" going on here.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:17 (sixteen years ago)

Re: the Lansley and G(r)ove(l) stories, could this be devious civil servants saying, "These fuckers might be putting us out of a job soon, maybe we can help them lose their jobs before then"

Oracle Crackers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:22 (sixteen years ago)

There are rather a lot of unauthorised leaks coming from sources close to ministers, aren't there? It took a good couple of years for the Labour govt to get this leaky, and even then it was usually rival spin doctors trying to steal a march on one another.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 13:24 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7880253/UK-austerity-drive-threatens-to-snuff-out-recovery-IMF-warns.html

D, dilly, dillies, dill, d-bombs (history mayne), Friday, 9 July 2010 09:13 (sixteen years ago)

Not gonna click that link but is the accompanying picture got Osbourne with his fingers in his ears going "ner ner not listening"?

We All Live in a World of Petty Goves (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 July 2010 09:32 (sixteen years ago)

There is no plan B here, they seem to be staking everything on private sector growth picking up the slack but haven't really explained how that's going to happen.

Matt DC, Friday, 9 July 2010 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

Well, once interest rate cuts kick in.. oh wait.

How about once the price of oil drops? Er.

OK OK, we'll just export our way to growth by selling to all those other countries that have import-led strategies.. hmm.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 9 July 2010 10:00 (sixteen years ago)

Not gonna click that link but is the accompanying picture got Osbourne with his fingers in his ears going "ner ner not listening"?

Nah, it's better, Economics Hard Man Osbourne...

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01446/george_1446276c.jpg

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 9 July 2010 15:21 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7885753/NHS-shake-up-grants-new-powers-to-doctors-and-patients.html

Patients will be handed more choice over how and where they are treated, pledged Mr Lansley.

i dunno who's asking for this. there *is* a problem to do with gps not wanting to prescribe the more expensive drugs (relative of mine is in a situation where a hospital consultant has said "u need these expensive drugs" and dbag GP is saying "no, have these shitty ones"... GPs are overpaid arseholes on the whole). but idk about having choice over how im treated. should schoolchildren get to choose how they are educated? doesn't sound very conservative to me.

D, dilly, dillies, dill, d-bombs (history mayne), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

Annoying. Can the consultant issue the prescription from his own budget as opposed to the GP's? Also would have thought in a game of NHS paper/scissors/rock, consultant crushes GP.

THIS BOOK EQUAL CONJOB (suzy), Monday, 12 July 2010 17:05 (sixteen years ago)

xp re choice... no, patients want to be treated as well as possible, as close to home as possible.

If I were properly sickly ill, the last thing I'd want to be stressed about is trying to choose a consultant/ surgeon/ whatever.

Also, I assume this info will be available online? if so then they're disadvantaging people (eg elderly / disabled etc) who may not have access to the internet or the appropriate research skills. More power to the people already in power, right? Conservatism in fucking ACTION.

sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

Already saving money.

http://anmblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c565553ef0134856cc10a970c-500wi

i find music confusing and annoying (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 15 July 2010 07:55 (fifteen years ago)

Ah Bloxwich, land of my birthing.

Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Mañana? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 July 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)

She can't fucking write, though...

THIS BOOK EQUAL CONJOB (suzy), Thursday, 15 July 2010 08:48 (fifteen years ago)

How much investment in schools?

James Mitchell, Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:00 (fifteen years ago)

200 million

embrace the flopping? no thanks (onimo), Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/economy/gfx/1956farthing220x224.jpg

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:13 (fifteen years ago)

She gets my vote for being In Touch and recognised for being hands on.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:14 (fifteen years ago)

Putting a stop on more speed camera's

^ investment in education too late for her obv.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 July 2010 09:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-10649459

This doesn't strike me as an inherently terrible idea if it were to replace student loans altogether, although I've no idea how one would go about actually implementing it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

Would still have to be loans for living expenses I think.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 15 July 2010 13:53 (fifteen years ago)

or they could just raise the higher rate of income tax to 50% regardless of degree or not, rather than wasting time and money on a separate tax scheme.

sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Thursday, 15 July 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

^^ exactly. but i guess that would upset the vast number of people on high salaries who didn't go to university.

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:27 (fifteen years ago)

^ but who benefit from the fact that lots of other people do.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

Think the "vast" bit was a joke.

Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Mañana? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Glad tom has articulated what I've been internally screaming at the radio all day, anyway.

Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Mañana? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Tory peer Lord Taylor facing expenses prosecution

... errrr, what's he doing in the photo accompanying this story?

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2010 14:50 (fifteen years ago)

ya know that finger thing you do to make your eyes cross? He's trying to make both eyes face outwards.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:32 (fifteen years ago)

Tough for this guy though, I mean, for years he was the only Black Tory and then David Cameron comes along, with his ideas for a modern Conservative Party, and now the Coalition benches are, uh, full of, ummmmmm, Afro-Caribbean, uh, MPs

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:50 (fifteen years ago)

fucking hell, zac goldsmith on channel 4 news this evening

someone should do a moaty on this assclown

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

Such a seething little pus-ball of entitlement.

laissez fairyland (suzy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

Wow, that was a masterclass on how not to handle either the allegation or the tv interview. Total amateur hour stuff.

calumerio, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

And you know he's going to be thinking - "well, that went well, completely vindicated"

i find music confusing and annoying (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 16 July 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

He is definitely his father's son

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 July 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

Watching the above Zac Goldsmith debacle now, laughing/wincing/muting: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid62612474001?bctid=129204519001

Thought this kind of stuff normally waited at least a year or two into a new government, thanks for getting ahead of schedule

atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 17 July 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

I couldn't watch all of that clip, it made me want to beat the shit out of the hateful entitled piece of shit.

dead flower :( (Pashmina), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

car crash television

I Ain't Committing Suicide For No Crab (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:27 (fifteen years ago)

Think Snow let himself get stonewalled tbh

Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Mañana? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

kinda true, but at the expense of Goldsmith looking like a slimy cunt, so I guess it all balances out.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

I do wish I hadn't used the phrase 'slimy cunt'.

Merdeyeux, Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

all that "you'd better watch it" stuff made me want to take a brick to the guy's skull. i don't mean 'guy', but the word im after is unfortunately gendered.

I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Saturday, 17 July 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

He is definitely his father's son

Absolutely, this reminded me of his father heckling David Mellor at the 1997.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 18 July 2010 09:57 (fifteen years ago)

all that "you'd better watch it" stuff

... which also pure Jimmy Goldsmith, "you don't want to mess with me" bullying tactics

tom d: he did what he had to do now he is dead (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 July 2010 14:07 (fifteen years ago)

Don't know what happened to the end of my sentence '..at the 1997 general election', as if you didn't already know that.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Sunday, 18 July 2010 15:22 (fifteen years ago)


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