Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

the flashback from just before they bought the rv (at the strip club) is great imo

what i'm sayin!

oops sorry!

don't be! it is awesome. that flashback covered quite a bit of ground actually

well i also liked the flashback of jane and jesse in the car talking about the door paintings and vaginas, v sweet

yeah

jesse was so happy :/

It underlined that Jane would've got bored with him pretty quickly, she was so obviously his intellectual superior.

Watching deadwood last night, didn't know that skyler was in it. That just seems wrong, I don't want to see her anywhere except in breaking bad.

felt exactly the opposite when i started watching breaking bad tbh

just finished s3 last night - last 2 eps were pretty great after the grinding midseason crawl

wondering why not just kill gus instead of gale - gus is harder to kill but the moral gain makes the decision a no brainer imo - and killing gale just buys them time at best - also didnt quite buy walts criminal acumen going from 'shit' to 'pretty good' overnight

opening flashback was implying having a disabled child is what smothered walts zest eh

enjoying walt and jesses deepening bond - its sort of touching for all its disfunction - lol @ walk lecturing jesse abt not thinking of others - irony

yup, the walt/jesse relationship is one of the most unique things about this show. Kind of like the Tony/Christopher relationship in the Sopranos

okay I finally watched all 3 seasons and can click on this thread too

killing gus seems like suicide to me, but there did seem to be some alternatives to straight-up killing gale...maybe just capturing him? or blackmailing gus w/ some way of ensuring that the police would get info about the whole operation in the case of walt's death. OTOH I don't think immediately thinking 'kill gale' is entirely out of character for walt at this point in time.

well the key to killing gus is making it seem like the cartel did it, tho gus is prob v hard to kill, still they are going to have to kill gus

also didnt quite buy walts criminal acumen going from 'shit' to 'pretty good' overnight

Walt is just amazing backed into a life or death corner. Any other time his decisions are 100% foolish.

just finished this. Final scene unbelievably good. Seasons got better and better, too: 3 > 2 >>>> 1 (which was hit by the writer's strike, right?)

One thing that still bugs me is how Walt can be a cold Machiavellian genius, but also unable to keep it together for the simplest lies like sweet-talking a cop or addressing a room of students.

xxp lol @ finishing minutes after iatee.

walt seems to have two personalities 'walt' and 'heisenberg' - problem is walt often thinks hes heisenberg

ya^

Walt is just amazing backed into a life or death corner. Any other time his decisions are 100% foolish.

― rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, July 3, 2010 1:02 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

otm.

Killing gus surely just means someone else still kills walt. Plus like...how would killing gus have stopped walt being killed? How would that have even worked in the way killing gale did? Come on..,

killing gale has maybe bought walt time. gus could kidnap walt, kidnap walts family, find another chemist etc. gus wants to kill walt. thats the problem. it hasnt been solved by killing gale. gus is yet to be dealt with.

would someone come after walt if he killed gus? mike maybe, just because hes thorough. theres no evidence of any particular strong loyalty in his organization. the whole thing is very business like. removing gus could just create a power vacuum, distracting any would be revenge takers w/ambition. anyway there are lots of people who want to kill gus, best would be if no one figures out its walt right.

possibly having a hypothetical someone wanting to kill walt for killing gus is much better than definitely having gus wanting to kill walt. killing gale: half-measure.

yeah that's totally true but like, in the exact circumstances of walt being about to be shot, killing gus wouldn't have done him any good. like he was going to be killed that v instant.

it's not even if someone comes after walt, maybe he will kill gus next season, but in that last ep he was about to be killed, there and then, that very second, and had to buy himself time. it's not a half measure, it's the only thing he could have done in that instant to not be shot.

if he says "oh i'm going to kill gus" then mike just goes "right good for you" and shoots him.

i was referring more to when they were planning gales murder in the lazertagorium - thinking abt it it was maybe an intentional joke abt walt and jesses shared psychosis that when walt was all 'you know what im talking abt' they were both thinking 'kill gale' when prob most viewers were thinking 'kill gus' - or at least i was - would be curious to know what everyone else thought they were talking abt at that moment

also lol

walt: you said no half measures

mike: mmyeah funny how words can be so open to interpretation

Nah, I never thought they meant Gus.

did you think they meant gale

It dawned on me before they came out and said it, certainly.

hmm interesting

I thought they meant Gus.

it nvr occurred to me that walt might try to kill gus hes kind of a bully

maybe walt tries to become gus eh

seems like a sorta likely future?

I was thinking they'd kill Gus.

I enjoy the Gus character but Giancarlo Eaposito is kinda meh.

has this thread discussed his spanish accent yet?

weird...to me i was sure they were going to try and kill gale.

Never thought they were gonna go after Gus. Maybe because of the obvious foreshadowing of us getting to see Gale's home life, but I also thought of Walt mentioning the folly of trying to kill Tucco an episode or two earlier. Next season, though... who knows.

ya - i always thought Gale.

there's a slight diff between killing gus and gale - gus is surrounded by heavies and not even the cartel fucks w him. how in the world could walt and jesse even attempt it?? witness mike in metal gear solid mode. gale on the other hand is surrounded by plants and old 78s.

i mean they are KILLER 78s, admittedly

if we really truly do only have one more season (probable, it seems..) how is this shit going to END??

I've ventured guesses about where this show was headed, on this very thread even, & I've been comically wrong pretty much all of the time. Some sort of showdown and/or collaboration b/w Walt & Hank does seem inevitable, tho, right??

I think they'll go after Gus in the long run, it doesn't seem like they have much of a choice, but unlike killing Gale I don't think it would have done much to save Walt's life there and then.

there's a slight diff between killing gus and gale - gus is surrounded by heavies and not even the cartel fucks w him. how in the world could walt and jesse even attempt it??

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blow up his house w/magic crystals ala s1, stake out pollos i dunno, walt had access, gus didnt know he was onto him; granted the schedule was pretty tight

it doesn't really make any sense to me that he'd do that though...like...if he hadn't killed gale his life was worthless to gus or whoever followed up gus.

as mentioned the gus/walt relationship is now completely untenable, they basically have to kill gus, only difference from before is gus knows they know they have to kill him - i mean how long does it take to find a criminal chemist, thats how long walt has to act

yeah i defo agree for future survival, but gale had to go first, that was his priority. they can't miss a week's shipment gus said, so killing gale buys him at least a few days vs being shot in the head at the laundry there and then.;

but be fore he had the drop on gus now gus is likely to do something rash - can he really just let walt go abt his workaday routine, what if he goes to the cops, what if he goes buck - while walt did you know 'avoid death' he didnt really solve any problems particularly

I thought he meant Gus at first, too. Assumed some ricin-based "now you come break bread at my gaff" antics.

yeah but like...dying would be worse than not dying, he totally didn't solve any probs but he managed to not be shot in the head, what else could he feasibly have done?

killed gus

gone to the cops

ran