what the fuck am i getting myself into with this grad school stuff

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xxp jeez it's a living ain't it? an interesting living, that's maybe tough to tie down to everyday practical stuff, but still kinda noble in a way?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

i mean, i do everyday, necessary practical stuff, and it sucks so hard that you could study the vacuum tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

xxp jeez it's a living ain't it?

tbc :/

caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

see, lj- everything sucks for everyone right now.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

ilx commune is becoming an inevitability imo

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

a job would be nice. perhaps I should look for one. out there in the massive world of jobs.

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

if you can afford to eat without one, you're better off not bothering tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

um in all seriousness things are fucking tight, and that's with me at home

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

as part of graduate degree program 2.0, i am taking my first online class. it costs $400 less than the in-class version of the same syllabus, and i am incredibly frustrated by the "virtual salon" atmosphere. like ILX without the penis jokes.

ampersand (remy bean), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

xp eliminate unnecessary public spending

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

hey talking about public worth, I'm studying philosophy. What a wanker I am.

Re. jobs I'm in an unpleasant limbo at the moment - my current job ends tomorrow, and in the highly unlikely event that I get funding I'll be starting my PhD at the beginning of October, but I won't know about the funding until August. So any job application I make comes with the proviso "btw I may be fucking off in about five minutes", which probably doesn't go down well. Ah well I'll enjoy the jobseekers and the starvation and the being hung drawn and quartered under our glorious new regime while I can.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

i had to turn down a job in new york last week ;_; because (i) couldn't make start date because of these fuckn galaxies and 2000 undergrads wouldn't wait and (ii) it was a lame offer, 21 month contract (i.e. one summer), would have been de facto the end of my academic career. been hustling for that job for ~three years.

caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

man that sucks

ps was 21 months really such a bad offer, in current sitch?

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

21 months = 3 months for research = no chance of a job at the end of it. still got some irons in some fires, but this year was a bloodbath for astronomy jobs.

caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

well, when the masters of the universe lost control of wall st, it was inevitable tbh

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

and i'd have to cut short the phd by a significant amount to make the start date (last few months, which is where i am, is when the magic happens) which would make my research cv even feebler. would really have been academic suicide if my goal is to stay in academia (which it is atm). feeling ok. had drifted away from that job for various other reasons, but it's the one i'd been brown-nosing for for time. hopefully they will have another one in a couple of years when it suits me and them better.

caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

xp, that is 100% the reason for the 21 month contract offer btw.

caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

yeha well having to give up phd for it was a non-runner anyway tbf

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

all going well they'll leave training budgets alone here, so that by the time i make permanency next year they'll pay me to go get a master's in something interesting

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Tuesday, 29 June 2010 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

in what? what is your job btw?

caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

yeha well having to give up phd for it was a non-runner anyway tbf

you might say is was ~academic~

caek, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I know a bunch of astronomers here who are despondently eyeing up a shift in discipline or management consultancy.

With a British PhD you really aren't expected to go straight into a teaching position, so *if* you do get a job it's all research, which I guess has benefits.

seandalai, Tuesday, 29 June 2010 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

xp lol clerical staff for lol local authority.

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

HOLY SHIT I HAVE FUNDING

c sharp major, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

:D

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:41 (fifteen years ago)

oyyy just popped me head in here to say that I don't have funding. Balance of the universe and all that. But congrats dude! (No one cry for me yet, I still have another one to hear back from.)

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:52 (fifteen years ago)

;_;

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:55 (fifteen years ago)

wow i've been thru a roller coaster of emotions this afternoon.

good luck with the next one merdeyeux

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)

I fucking told you not to cry, but chrz darragh.

what are ya doing, c#?

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

Nice one c sharp, and it sounds like you're in arts so it's an even bigger achievement.

Keep the faith merdeyeux...on the plus side, coping with repeated rejection is a very useful skill in academia.

seandalai, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

and nightclubs

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

otm

seandalai, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

oh, merdeyeux, my commiserations - this morning I got an email from one lot i'd applied to saying 'we can't give you anything, hope you can cover it all yourself!' and was utterly sure that there was no way i could go, that all the time I'd spent preparing and applying and fretting and asking for favours and calculating budgets was just void (my institution requires you prove you have the money for fees and subsistence before you even start). I cried, even! And then I checked my email and-- from a completely unexpected source! So I'll keep my fingers crossed for the one you have yet to hear back from. :)

i am doing premodern japanese history, specifically urban riots in the nineteenth century. they are really cool! some of them feature destroying people's houses by dancing inside them with your shoes on! i spoke to my future-supervisor this afternoon and he was all 'i have a list of sociology texts you need to read': so exciting.

c sharp major, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

Defended last December, have applied for all sorts of jobs and gotten nowhere: still my own department has given me a few courses to teach next year while tenured staff take sabbaticals - including an MA course, and today I got sent my provisional timetable, and, sad, maybe, but seeing 'Dr. ---- --------' Timetable 2010-11 was a buzz

So basically, you guys, keep doing it if it's what you want.... (and not just because you want to be called 'Dr.')

sonofstan, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

you guys need to crack platos code

max, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

thatll get you funding

max, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

aw but the classic rushing-to-the-rescue-when-someone-asks-for-a-doctor (oh, you meant a medical doctor) thing is my number one reason.

that sounds neat, c sharp. Thinking of the glorious disco regime we'd have if dancing were a viable rioting technique in the west makes me sad.

thanks for the words, guys. At the moment I'm a weird bundle of stuff - on one hand, I thought this one was a slim slim slim hope while the AHRC studentship I'll learn about in August was a no hope, so I'm done for and for the most part feeling a bit dislocated and directionless. On the other, that no hope is more like 0.0000000001% hope, which is something? Dunno. The eternally bright side is that maybe I could benefit from that year (at least...) out having time to read things that aren't directly related to my current work and such. Ey, anyway, time to take my mind off it.

next year's proposal will be entitled Phaedrus and the Lizard People: Towards a Brownian Hermeneutics of Plato, obv.

NYC Goatse.cx and Flowers (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

I gots no funding but I'm starting it anyway. I think I may be insane.

Hoping to get my first journal article published this autumn, though. Probably nothing'll come of that either. ;_;

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:34 (fifteen years ago)

well done cis! glad it's come to something. when do you head off east? :D

merdeyeux...unlucky pal but you can join me in a protracted and heartfelt jobsearch now! keen?

emil.y remember there's ALWAYS a spot in my (actually now nascent) band for you and yr synths if everything goes belly-up!

so you want Mark Ronson to cry into your ass (acoleuthic), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:29 (fifteen years ago)

why, lj, will you be glad to see the back of me? :D
my completely unworkable three-year-plan (three years! there is no way i can do this in three years!) says Japan from apr 2012-mar 2013, with a previous fact-finding mission in early 2011. so... at some point? i guess? i basically need to start applying for travel grants approximately now. and trying to guess where my data will actually be.

c sharp major, Thursday, 1 July 2010 08:16 (fifteen years ago)

today I got sent my provisional timetable, and, sad, maybe, but seeing 'Dr. ---- --------' Timetable 2010-11 was a buzz

can i just wtf@u how on earth could that in any way be sad? that's awesome

,,,,,,eeeeleon (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 July 2010 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

currently trying to wrap up my phd in mathematics i've been working on for the last 4 years part time. its killing me. i can't work on it in the week because of my job and so the only way to get anything done is to lock myself away all weekend and isolate myself from everyone. it's making me depressed. how do you ever finish this thing :(

hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Thursday, 1 July 2010 10:51 (fifteen years ago)

^^

Maybe it's different for scientists/ mathematicians, but for me it wasn't a case of finishing so much as giving up and handing the fucker in.....(after my supervisor saying it wasn't going to get any better: nicely ambiguous, eh?)

sonofstan, Thursday, 1 July 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i suppose. i look back over the stuff i wrote going on a year ago now and i think it's terrible and needs to be completely re-written. this process can go on forever i imagine.

hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Thursday, 1 July 2010 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

walk me away from the cliff - looking at english phd programs

like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Thursday, 15 July 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bostonphoenix.com/alt1/archive/styles/97/03/06/degrees.html

caek, Thursday, 15 July 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

http://chronicle.com/article/Tenure-RIP/66114/

iatee, Thursday, 15 July 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

you guys are good...very good

like a ◴ ◷ ◶ (dyao), Thursday, 15 July 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, don't do it, dyao!

horseshoe, Thursday, 15 July 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

THANKS FOR NOTHING, AHRC.

Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)


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