High Fidelity: Classic Or Dud?

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Scottish music is all shit. I mean what have we ever achieved apart from the Incredible String Band, Alex Harvey, John Martyn, Gerry Rafferty, the Average White Band, the Poets, the Buzz, Frankie Miller, early Simple Minds, Ivor Cutler, the Fire Engines, Orange Juice, Josef K, early Aztec Camera, the Cocteau Twins, the Associates, Mogwai, Arab Strap, the Jesus and Mary Chain, Primal Scream, the Scars, Positive Noise, Leisure Process, Win, Nectarine No 9, the Commotions element of Lloyd Cole and the Commotions, the Delgados, Brian Connolly, Teenage Fanclub, the Pastels, the Vaselines, Future Pilot AKA, Bobby Wellins, Bill Wells, Marmalade, Lulu and Franz Ferdinand? Eh?

OK, admittedly you might have a problem with Middle Of The Road or the Bay City Rollers...

Jesus H. Clapton, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

See what you've done now Rumpy?! Forgive her ILX, she's new...

smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

uh, Capercailie.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

wet wet wet

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

RUNRIG

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

and apologies for being rude - i'm in a bad mood this morning. you can do what a friend of mine did when he took me into his local in govan last year, took me round and introduced me to people saying: "this is dave, he's english but he's alright!" so as i didn't get chinned.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

British people are funny.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Racist.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(cries)

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Scotland's still largely run by a government and fed by a media that's 500 miles away. I think that's the difference. It's usual for people in such a position will have some mild resentment. Making remarks the other way around 'to get your own back' just sounds crass. Basically, I think you misunderstand the 'too English' thing - I usually understand it as "Ach, I get enough of this culture as it is", not a "The English culture sucks per se."

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Celtic baby.

(xpost, although I kind of wish it wasn't)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I reckon the SPL will be a two horse race next year.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, N. is displaying Confucius like wisdom today…

smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

are those the only two possible readings of "it's too english"? couldn't it mean "i don't particularly care for products of enlish culture/it's not my thing/i'm not a fan" (which is far from equaling "english culture sucks")

oops (Oops), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Scotland's still largely run by a government and fed by a media that's 500 miles away

we can also easily substitute "run" for "subsidised". rough with the smooth's what i say.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow -- this thread is not really about crap Hornby!

This debate seems to have happened before. More than once maybe.

N. is right about the quality of Romy & Michelle.

the bluefox, Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

are those the only two possible readings of "it's too english"? couldn't it mean "i don't particularly care for products of enlish culture/it's not my thing/i'm not a fan" (which is far from equaling "english culture sucks")

Well OK, any of those things too - none are offensive in the way what Dave said back was.

Dave - can Scotland have the North Sea oil revenues, then?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave, enough is enough, she's gone now, give it up.

smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I reckon the SPL will be a two horse race next year

Yeah, Celtic and Dundee United (or Hearts).

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

nick is soooo right about romy & michelle vs. grosse point blank.

xpost

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

(Actually, it's worth pointing out that tuition fees and Section 28 were abolished in Scotland years ago and one of those looks set to never happen in England so you're not suffering under the jackboot of central government that much)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I am now going to count to ten then leave this thread and never come back.

smee (smee), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

as far as i'm concerned north sea oil is british.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

like we all should be rather than concentrating on stupid english v shcots battles that don't bloody exist any more

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

British people be feudin'!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow -- this thread is not really about crap Hornby!

I'm with you, PF, I thought the board had decided to burn him in effigy, thus the 150 new posts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I would walk 500 miles just to see the man and discuss the effectiveness of decentralised policy making

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

... naked.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

mikey is the g in your name short for genius or something?

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39771000/jpg/_39771171_ramblerarrives203.jpg

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Looks like I gave my opinion on the movie 2.5 years ago.

This thread, today, however = classic.

I especially love the bit where Dave says his mum is anti-Scottish, but not he.

Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hello dad

x-post

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i read over that again. my mum was scottish. should have made that clearer. she was not anti-scottish, either.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

However, your aunty Scott was a different matter....

Ally C (Ally C), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i should like my final appearance on this ridiculous thread to be made in honour of deep-fried, battered confectionery and the inestimable talents of big country

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

You do know that deep-fried mars bar thing was a joke someone made up that people down South fell for, right? (I think some chip shops then started actually doing them to try to cash in on the meme, but I can't say I've ever seen one).

Deep-fried pizza is real, though, I can't deny.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked it till my little brother told me John Cusack's character reminded him of me. I'll just be shooting myself now

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

the deep fried mars bar hoax has spread across the atlantic. there are at least 3 foofy "authentic" brit-style chip shops in new york that sell them.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh good grief.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

My brother claims a shop here did deep fried cream eggs.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I must be insane, that sounds great.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

the fair outside o'Seattle deep-fries various items in 'homage'

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

those chip shops also charge $4 a portion for heinz tomato soup. i suppose you have to pay your illegal australian staff somehow, though.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I am now physically ill. I've seen the deep fried pizzas slices, I did not need to be reminded of them. And this creme egg madness YOU DISGUSTING BASTARDS.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish there were still some Cadbury creme eggs for sale so I could try this!

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

The deep-fried creme eggs are only acceptable if they are served in ice cream cones.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I realize this is as bad as Tep's Krispy Kreme burger, yes.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That should have been in an ice cream cone as well.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Kerry OTM way upthread. This movie sucks so bad it makes me wonder how that could even be possible, given that Al Johnson and Ian Williams are in it.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I should clarify my above post.

I DO NOT LIVE IN SCOTLAND. BUT ON A SEPARATE ISLAND.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 April 2004 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)


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