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ok it was tactless if not actually tasteless. but cornerites being all huffy about obama is going to be funny for a good while to come. 'how dast he?' 'the nerve!' etc.

tipsy mothra, Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:28 (seventeen years ago)

what did he say about astrology that i missed?

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:44 (seventeen years ago)

It takes a mirthless wussy, etc:

The Nancy Reagan Jab [Andy McCarthy]

C'mon folks, let's not be a bunch of mirthless wusses here. Mark Steyn's cover story for NR's April 21 edition on Mrs. Obama's America was laugh out loud stuff, and we all howled over the unintentionally hysterical New Yorker cover that depicted Michelle as a militant. First families and their eccentricities, real or imagined, have never been off-limits. What Obama said, whether you think it was funny or not (I thought it was kinda funny) was not offensive — it didn't come close to John McCain's infamous joke (at a 1998 fundraiser) at Chelsea Clinton's expense, and I don't recall too many protests around here about our candidate's occasional low-brow jape. Let's not act like a bunch of Lefties just looking to be aggrieved over this or that slight. This is likely to be a tough stretch, and we'll need to be able to laugh — at ourselves and at the other side — to get through it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 8 November 2008 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

Anyone getting offended or thinking it's tasteless has too much time on their hands.

Isn't that the definition of 90% of Corner contributors?

Nicolars (Nicole), Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

we all howled over the unintentionally hysterical New Yorker cover that depicted Michelle as a militant.

unintentionally???

I DIED, Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

what did he say about astrology that i missed?

hoos, he got asked something like "will you consult with past presidents" and Obama's joke answer was "I'll consult with all the ones that are living .... I'm not gonna be like nancy reagan holding seances"

which might have been funny in the 80s when it was a more current reference, but nowadays it has an implication of "hey nancy why not call up your dead husband on the seance telephone, lol"

but he called her later to apologize, so whatever

dmr, Saturday, 8 November 2008 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

Nancy Reagan didn't hold seances (Mary Todd Lincoln did, methinks), but made Jeanne Dixon an unofficial appointment secretary. Any seances Nancy held were too call Ron's spirit to the land of the living between 1981-1989.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 8 November 2008 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

they should give a spot to Coach Dave

meanwhile, here's today's list of TownHall columns for your amusement and/or ire:

TODAY'S OPINION
Sat Nov 8, 2008

The Culture War and Barack Obama
By Bill O'Reilly
The fascinating thing about Barack Obama's election is that few Americans seem to know exactly how the man is going to govern.

George Will : One Man's America
Thomas E. Woods Jr. : Who Killed the Constitution?
Daniel J. Flynn : A Conservative History of the American Left
Michael Barone : Triumph of Temperament, Not Policy
Donald Lambro : Word of Warning to the Dems: Do Not Overreach
Robert D. Novak : Newt in 'One-Two'?
Brent Bozell III : Media Defeats McCain?
Janice Shaw Crouse : Marriage Unites as Politics Divides the Nation
Kathryn Jean Lopez : How to Survive Media Bias
Rich Tucker : Conservatives: Right in More Ways Than One
Jonah Goldberg : Election Questions No One Asks
John McCaslin : Lovelace, You Say?
Mike Gallagher : Mourning In America
S. E. Cupp : Election Lessons From Michael Crichton
Rich Galen : Don't Blame Me, I Voted for McCain
Amanda Carpenter : Conservative Bloggers Feel Spurned
David Limbaugh : Conservatives, Don't Be Hypnotized
Oliver North : Protect and Defend
John Hawkins : Say "Enough's Enough" And Do Your Part To Stop Mitch McConnell
Ken Blackwell : Post-Racial Preference America
Burt Prelutsky : A Contrarian Comes Clean
Patrick J. Buchanan : An Unnecessary Defeat?
Jonah Goldberg : Progressivism's Achilles Heel

obama cyber leader (kingfish), Saturday, 8 November 2008 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

S. E. Cupp : Election Lessons From Michael Crichton

O_O

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Saturday, 8 November 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

Mike Gallagher : Mourning In America

still can't get over this XD

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 8 November 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)

S. E. Cupp : Election Lessons From Michael Crichton

"I'd rather die than see that man inaugurated!"

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 8 November 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

two things to discuss here

Bad News, Good News [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

The bad news from USS NR this morning: Both Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney turned down the RNC chair job when I offered it to each this morning. (Aren't you glad to know it's mine to give away?) The good news: Mike Steele seems to be a frontrunner in the hearts of the crowd here.

11/09 12:21 PM

Late Edition [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

It wasn't late enough in the day — I'm not sure it ever would be — for Arnold Schwarzeneggar making bedroom jokes about his marriage.

11/09 12:12 PM

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Sunday, 9 November 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

The Youth Vote & Exit Polls [Jonah Goldberg]

Andy - I'm not so sure. By all means, let's wait for better data. In particular I would like someone to clarify whether or which exit polls are worthwhile or not. There's been a lot of sweeping punditry running through the blogosphere, on both sides, with people making bold declarative statements about what voters think about America in recent days. I'd really like to know if that should be "voters" or "Obama voters."

As for the youth vote, it doesn't sound like there was a huge surge of young voters at the polls (particularly if you discount young black voters, who probably deserve to fall under the surge in the black vote more than a surge in the youth vote). Curtis Gans says that the turnout this year wasn't much bigger than '04. It sounds like Obama's advantage among the youth has more to do with the fact that Obama was exciting to young Democrats and McCain wasn't for young Republicans. I ain't going to argue with that, but I think there's some daylight between that observation and the grand prognostications about the death of the conservative youth vote.

But we can discuss this tonight at the bar.

11/09 09:18 AM

young black people - more black than young

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Sunday, 9 November 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

do you think if i put enough work into it i could actually blapp amy holmes

and what, Sunday, 9 November 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

pretty sure u could blapp klo

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Sunday, 9 November 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

if i could find it

and what, Sunday, 9 November 2008 18:56 (seventeen years ago)

1st step to blapping amy holmes - get on next year's NR cruise, and dont get too drunk and end up with ... anyone else

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Sunday, 9 November 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)

we need to do some fundraising to send ethan on nr cruise 2009 asap

✧✦✵✶✴i feel magical✴✶✵✦✧ (ice crӕm), Sunday, 9 November 2008 19:24 (seventeen years ago)

http://blog.epromos.com/obama-t-shirt-promotion.jpg

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Sunday, 9 November 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

(particularly if you discount young black voters, who probably deserve to fall under the surge in the black vote more than a surge in the youth vote)

lol

reminds of something some blogger used to go on about (Josh Marshall I think) -- conservatives who would argue, "hey, if you throw out all the votes of blacks, gays, union members and all those people who are guaranteed Dems, we'd be crushin em in every election!!"

aka massive chunk of Dem coalition = "not real America"

have fun w/ your shrinking pie, gop!

dmr, Sunday, 9 November 2008 20:55 (seventeen years ago)

uhm, enjoy:

http://townhall.com/columnists/KevinMcCullough/2008/11/09/no_we_cant

And Patrice O'neal gets mentioned, even!

Brotherhood of Stealing Shit to Sell to Trader Caravans (kingfish), Monday, 10 November 2008 00:33 (seventeen years ago)

Friday, November 07, 2008
MN Recounter Supported by Communists, ACORN
Posted by: Amanda Carpenter at 1:14 PM

The man overseeing Minnesota’s contentious recount between incumbent Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and comedian turned candidate Al Franken is a known Democratic cheerleader with ties to far-left organizations including ACORN and the Communist Party of the USA.
Secretary of State Mark Ritchie has not carried out his role in the traditionally non-partisan manner expected of the office by contributing money to the Minnesota Democratic Farmer Laborer Party and speaking with press at the Democratic National Convention about “ways Democrats can sway rural voters.”

Most alarmingly, officials from ACORN and the Communist Party of the USA endorsed his candidacy for Secretary of State. Ritchie even highlighted ACORN’s endorsement on his campaign website.

Ritchie once worked as a leader of a coalition group that coordinated with ACORN in 2004. As Executive Director of the National Voice, Ritchie worked with a slew of left-wing get-out-the-vote organizations like ACORN and the People for the American Way under the umbrella group "The November 2 Project."

Today, ACORN is being investigated for fraudulent activities in Ritchie’s state among several others. The group is accused of failing to turn in registrations within the required 10-day period in Hennepin and Ramsey County.

The Communist Party of the USA wrote on their website that Ritchie “could play a valuable national role” in protecting voter rights, as opposed to the roles Republican Secretaries of State Katharine Harris of Florida and Ken Blackwell of Ohio served in previous elections.

The hard-hitting Minnesota-based blog “Minnesota Democrats Exposed” has consistently criticized Ritchie for his liberal bent. The blog published a photo (above) of Ritchie standing speaking in front of a podium with an “Obama-Biden” sign at a Democratic Farm Labor Party fundraiser in October. Blogger Michael B. Brodkorb contrasted it with statements from his office claiming non-partisanship from his office weeks before Election Day.

The Minnesota Star Tribune is giving Republican Senator Coleman a narrow 239-edge over Democrat Franken. The race was originally called by the AP for Coleman, but his winning margin was so slim Minnesota law required a recount.

Update: I'm not the only one on this. Matthew Vadum has more details on Ritchie up HERE.

Brotherhood of Stealing Shit to Sell to Trader Caravans (kingfish), Monday, 10 November 2008 00:38 (seventeen years ago)

switch out "florida, katherine harris, right wing, gore, bush" for a few of those

omar little, Monday, 10 November 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

I can never remember - is the problem with Obama the fact that he never stood for anything, so we can't tell 'who he is', or that what he promised was so grandiose that he'll never be able to live up to it?

dowd, Monday, 10 November 2008 04:37 (seventeen years ago)

Kinder, Gentler ObamaCorps [John Derbyshire]
I dunno if it was me, but the Obama's Change website has undergone some fast changes of its own.

When I commented on Friday about the pretty-much-compulsory-looking "national service" plan proposed there, the site said this:

… developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year …
It currently says this:

… setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free …
In the minds of our college administrators, that will translate into: "Oh goody! — We can raise tuition by $4,000!" Nice, anyway, to suspect that someone in the Obama machine is reading The Corner.

11/10 01:17 PM

Mordy, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:08 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, Derby, that's precisely it. The Obama campaign is reading you breathlessly.

Mordy, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:12 (seventeen years ago)

uh, we are

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

ha but those two proposals arent v different

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

I think it's safe to say even if the Obama campaign is reading the Corner breathlessly (from laughter) they are not adjusting policies based on anything John Derbyshire has written.

Alex in SF, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

well yes

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

(particularly if you discount young black voters, who probably deserve to fall under the surge in the black vote more than a surge in the youth vote)

lol

reminds of something some blogger used to go on about (Josh Marshall I think) -- conservatives who would argue, "hey, if you throw out all the votes of blacks, gays, union members and all those people who are guaranteed Dems, we'd be crushin em in every election!!"

aka massive chunk of Dem coalition = "not real America"

have fun w/ your shrinking pie, gop!

― dmr, Sunday, November 9, 2008 3:55 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

my favorite corollary of this is libertarian republicans fantasizing that if they just had half of the latin vote + half of the black vote they'd win every time - w/o realizing that like a third of white ppl who vote republican are only doing it because the GOP isnt doing anything to get black or latin voters

and what, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:28 (seventeen years ago)

its true that libertarians are some of the dumbest people

SNAKES! (ice crӕm), Monday, 10 November 2008 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

yeah it's usually fans of ron "it's impossible for a libertarian to be a racist" paul but you hear it from "moderate" GOP types sometimes too

and what, Monday, 10 November 2008 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

Obama's Not Really the First [Mark Krikorian]
James Earl Jones was the first black president I'd ever seen — he was The Man, which I saw as a kid on TV (I think I also read the novel, which I remember being very different). What others? There's the president on 24 (I've never seen it, but I've heard), and apparently Morgan Freeman was the president in Deep Impact, according to an NPR segment last year on the subject. This post last week at a movie blog also lists the presidents in Idiocracy and Head of State, both of which are kind of clownish; that post also lists the president from The Fifth Element (a great movie, by the way), but he was president of Earth, not the United States. This story from the Minneapolis paper also lists 1933's Rufus Jones for President, starring an 8-year-old Sammy Davis Jr. in his first film where he somehow gets elected president (you can see the whole thing — it's short — starting here). A piece from Slate last month says Danny Glover will play the president in an upcoming film called 2012. Are there others? TV shows, novels, whatever?

11/12 12:04 AM

m coleman, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:12 (seventeen years ago)

oh boy

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:15 (seventeen years ago)

wasn't C. Thomas Howell the first black student to matriculate in an Ivy League school?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:16 (seventeen years ago)

that is. . . good stuff

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:17 (seventeen years ago)

whats the big deal about sarah palin being a candidate, we all remember when glenn close was already vice president

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

This post last week at a movie blog also lists the presidents in Idiocracy and Head of State, both of which are kind of clownish

Hey, you know what else is kinda clownish?

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

Fictional Black Presidents [Mark Krikorian]

OK, my last selection of reader contributions. This, from Izengabe:

In Philip K Dick's brilliant novel The Crack in Space centers around Jim Briskin who is campaigning to be the 1st black president of the United States and his plan to solve Earth's chronic overpopulation problem by sending people though a hole in space to colonizing a parallel alter-Earth that was found by Jifi-scuttler repairman.

And more sci-fi, from Britton W.:

Robert Heinlein wrote on [a black woman president] in “Over the Rainbow” in 1980. She was a Palin-like character who stepped in upon the death of the president.

Colin A. points out that columnist Ralph Peters's 1990 novel entitled The War in 2020 also features a black president.

Paul D. alerted me to a Richard Pryor skit from his show in 1977 where he was the president conducting a press conference that, like everything else I've seen by Pryor, manages to be both unfunny and so chock full of stereotypes it might as well have been produced by the Klan.

Not to end on a sour note, Alec B. sent along a link about a 1964 comic book called "Treasure Chest," published by the Catholic Guild for distribution to parochial schools, that featured a story line on black presidential candidate Tim Pettigrew (though the story line ended without saying whether he won, so technically it doesn't qualify).

some dude'n'em (and what), Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

crack in space is one of the shitter dick books

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

dick jokes

Because it's a snow machine (deej), Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

crack shitty dick

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

Uncle Shavedlongdick

some dude'n'em (and what), Thursday, 13 November 2008 20:54 (seventeen years ago)

bff:poor joe biden having to hang out with cheney tonight
hoos:omg what
hoos:i guess that's inevitable it just hadn't occurred to me
bff:its the tour of the naval observatory so the wives are there too but yeah if he disappears today we know why
hoos:extraordinarily rended
hoos:or as i like to call it
hoos:"the dick move"

BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.

And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit.

The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous.

omar little, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

^^gonna be awkward

omar little, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

be funny if he doesn't show him anything but like the first two or three rooms, the rest are all padlocked up

goole, Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)

only the big hoos could excelsior himself and get away with it

t-t-totally some dude (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 13 November 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

Not from The Corner, but close enough. K-hammer:

Liberals have always wanted the auto companies to produce the kind of cars they insist everyone should drive: small, light, green and cute. Now they will have the power to do it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 November 2008 12:48 (seventeen years ago)


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