Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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Lynch tried to recruit my girlfriend into TM.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Sunday, November 6 • 7:30 PM
University of California at Berkeley
Wheeler Auditorium
Berkeley, CA

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

What the hell is the BEARCADE?

I should probably know, but I never go anywhere near the campus.

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

BAH - I will have to miss that. lame

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

yeah what the fuck, I went to cal and we had no such stupidly named thing. We had a lot of other stupidly named things, but nothing called Bearcade. Is this in the ASUC?

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

sold out.

fuck you, cal!

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

The latest news from http://www.dugpa.com/ seems to indicate that season two will be released on DVD in Scandinavia in November.

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Saturday, 4 February 2006 13:07 (twenty years ago)

yay, scandanavia, the biggest market for david lynch!

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

hey guys im from syd australia any knews when season 2 will be released down under??? I have lauras diary (book form) the whole season including the pilot and fire walk with me on video but the quality is sooo crap!! any news pls let me know!

― deb, Monday, 27 February 2006 10:20 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...

Guess what comes out on DVD in Australia on November 2nd:

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/788176

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/788177

― Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

do Aussie DVDs play in the US...?

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:01 (twenty years ago)

they're region 4, so no, unless you region-free-ed your player.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

http://www.amazon.com/Twin-Peaks-Second-Season/dp/B000M3439E/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-1202403-4903334?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1173599581&sr=1-1

― Shakey Mo Collier, Sunday, 11 March 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

HOW'S ANNIE

― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 11 March 2007 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

So many people have forced season 1 dvd on me. I'd really like to understand the lurve, but the show's just a soporific for me. I did like the time my roomie fast-forwarded thru "Fire Walk With Me" to how me all the creepy parts, tho it kind of ruined my work day afterwards.

― Abbott, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Link]

― Abbott, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Heck to you, illegality.

Here's Lynch talking about 'Loose Change' clip on Dutch TV!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYYN7QhcKs

― Abbott, Sunday, 11 March 2007 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Is region 2 still coming in May of this year then?

― StanM, Sunday, 11 March 2007 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

(er... Twin Peaks, I mean)

― StanM, Sunday, 11 March 2007 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

superglad that Season 2 is finally coming out, but a little disappointed that it isn't being packaged altogether with Season 1 and the Pilot in one big box. Lame that the pilot isn't available at all on DVD in the US....

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, best thing about re-reading this thread = I had forgotten that whole span of time when everything Anna posted got cut off at the end, like she was constantly getting knocked over the head with candlesticks and passing out mid-sentence.

― nabisco, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Hey guys help I'm being held captive in a fortune coo

― nabisco, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

roflz

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

They're rerunning it on the Finnish TV at the moment, and I've been watching it with friends... I think I finally understand why Lynch wanted the murder never to be solved and the whole mystery just gradually fade into background, so that the show could just be about the inhabitants of Twin Peaks. When I first saw the series as a teen I focused (as did everyone else) on the horror and suspense aspect, but now I realize the show is really just an over-the-top soap opera, and the mystery functions mostly as a way to lure viewers in. Though of course Lynch should've realized that people wanted to find out who killed Laura Palmer, so his plan never worked. But there's so much parody and camp and over-the-to performances in the series it's hard to see it as anything else than a soap opera spiced with horror elements.

I have to say though, that the occasional conservatism of the show is kinda disturbing. Like in every Lynch movie, sex seems to be fundamentally perverse and leading to trouble. The scene where the cops question Jacques Renault and he talks about Laura and Ronette is particularly revealing. Also, I didn't really like the Bookhouse Boys thing and how they explain the troubles of Twin Peaks to be caused by some dark force in the forest. What a way to externalize your problems! I would've liked the show to be more open-ended about whether the perversity was an organic part of Twin Peaks, and not just caused by some spirits and dark forces.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

Personally I would have been much happier if Twin Peaks had been a seven-parter, purely directed by Lynch and purely about the murder, as was the original intent.

About the show's "occasional conservatism" - Lynch is a stern, unbending right-wing Republican through and through; he's never made any secret of that.

― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

Personally I would have been much happier if Twin Peaks had been a seven-parter, purely directed by Lynch and purely about the murder, as was the original intent.

Was it really? Because from what I've gathered this wasn't the case. Wikipedia quotes Lynch as saying:

The mystery of who killed Laura Palmer was the foreground, but this would recede slightly as you got to know the other people in the town and the problems they were having...The project was to mix a police investigation with a soap opera.

Also, I remember reading that Lynch and Frost disagreed whether the murder should eventually be solved: Frost thought (probably correct) that most viewers would want to know who killed Laura, whereas Lynch's view was that the murder was more of a way to get people interested, and should never solved. Anyway, I don't think it was ever supposed to be the sole focus of the series.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I don't think the conservatism should be only blamed on Lynch; if I remember correctly, he wrote and directed only two or three episodes in the series.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

Any idea whether the season 2 DVDs will be coming out in Europe?

― baaderonixx, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know about other Europe, but in Scandinavia it's released as two boxes, and the first one is already available:

http://www.cdon.com/main.phtml?navroot=905&session=1

The second one should come out next month.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:35 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops, that didn't work. Here's a proper link:

http://www.cdon.com/product.phtml?prod=181572

I'm not sure if you can order it outside the Nordic countries though. At least the EU version of cdon.com doesn't have it.

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

This Finnish shop promises to ship the first box out to the EU, though they're currently out of stock.

http://www.filmifriikki.fi/~TaeJx0000002/?Y999=PIF&Y104=007332431007390&Y220=45f66d9700007942001d07674a6aa5d1330dbd7f

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

And you can also preorder the second box:

http://www.filmifriikki.fi/~YP46x0000002/?Y999=PIF&Y104=007332431014275&Y220=45f66d9700007942001d07674a6aa5d1330dbd7f

― Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

hurray my copy of Season 2 just shipped.

Lynch is conservative I don't think there's any doubt - but calling him right wing is a bit misrepresentative, I think. He's really only "conservative" in the sense that he has an unswerving loyalty to kind of traditional "small-town America" no-drinks, no-drugs, no weird sexing sort of values. But he doesn't fit neatly into any kind of typical right-wing political mold.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it really matters whether he is conservative or not.

― The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

(btw Lynch directed 6 episodes and wrote 4)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Lynch is a stern, unbending right-wing Republican through and through; he's never made any secret of that.

I've never seen him get anywhere that specific; where have you?

Shakey, so he puts in all the weird sexing into his work as a caution?? He seems to like it way too much.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be getting the S2 DVDs, but if anyone here has DirecTV and isn't sure about TP, there's a new channel called ChillerTV that's rerunning the series.

― marmotwolof, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

So I was all excited for the S2 DVDs to come out because I thought, Ooh I can watch the series all over again. But now I'm finding that S1 is no longer available on DVD (at least through Netflix)? What the screw? I seem to remember watching it when it first came out a few years ago at a friend's house -- why can't I rent it anymore?

― jaymc, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Shakey, so he puts in all the weird sexing into his work as a caution?? He seems to like it way too much.

oh I agree - why else would every single film (except maybe the Elephant Man?) contain at least one scene wherein hot chicks make out with each other. He likes to explore that tension/connection between temptation and suffering. He would be a way more boring filmmmaker if he was just some predictably stern moralist - its to his credit that he's not a finger-wagger and more of an interested investigator. That being said, he does rely on the common narrative trope of sex/sensuality inevitably leading to punishment and suffering - a theme that other, more conservative (and Christian) folks like to harp on.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I have the S1 DVDs, they are a great package... now all I need is the fucking pilot episode.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

I like season 2, lots of joeks. I'm excited to get the dvds since I first saw it on decaying, barely-watchable VHS.

― Jordan, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

season 2 has some great stuff and also some incredibly bad stuff (James/rich widow/car mechanic subplot = wtf?)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that subplot goes absolutely nowhere.

― jaymc, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

ugh James. hate hate hate.

― horseshoe, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

dudes UK SEASON ONE HAS REMASTERED PILOT

― 69, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

yes but I cannot play stupid UK DVDs. The pilot is unavailable on DVD in the US, it has never been released.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think its cuz the pilot rights are held by a different company...? And also the US and European versions of the pilot are dramatically different.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't the tack-on ending the only difference? If you're watching the whole series, you just need to turn off the pilot ten min before the end.

― sexyDancer, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

yeh that's the central difference - but considering the tacked on ending involves revealing the killer/Cooper meeting Bob, I think its a pretty dramatic difference.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

(I think the ending also includes some scene of Lucy and Andy at home, which is also missing from the US version...?)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 April 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

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