“There really has been no Italian immigrant narrative written about Williamsburg,” said Joseph Sciorra, a folklorist who has long studied Italian-American traditions. “They have been invisible. But a lot of the history can be tracked by its religious expression.
“Processions map out networks of affiliations,” he added, “people who are devoted to a saint, or are from the same town. It maps out the connections in the community. As people move out and get replaced by new residents, the route gets truncated.”
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Thank god for people who aren't total morons being quoted in the NYT.
― Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:03 (sixteen years ago)
That article btw is really the only thing about hipster-dom stereotypes that still infuriates me, that total disconnect from community, family, history, etc. But it's not really a hipster issue, it feels like that's kinda all over the place. So maybe I'm just being cranky.
― Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:05 (sixteen years ago)
that total disconnect from community, family, history, etc.
pretty much describes any twentysomething, hipster or no
― ლ support our troops ლ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 7 June 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)
yeah that's not true. any one that chose to move from his/her hometown to williamsburg, probably.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 7 June 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)
Are there beardo hipsters on Graham Avenue who are italian-american and grew up in wburg?
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 June 2010 20:10 (sixteen years ago)
No.
― thirdalternative, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:12 (sixteen years ago)
Ok maybe one.
― thirdalternative, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:13 (sixteen years ago)
What's a hipster?
― ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:14 (sixteen years ago)
EAT Y'SELF FITTER!
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 June 2010 20:15 (sixteen years ago)
does anyone know what the italian american population of williamsburg was like 20-30 years ago? I feel like the article is sorta (maybe not explicitly) framing this as a 'poor italians getting gentrified out of their neighborhood' story - but for the most part, didn't these people move to jersey (etc.)?
― iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:22 (sixteen years ago)
...and start hilarious tv shows?
― ლ support our troops ლ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 7 June 2010 20:28 (sixteen years ago)
^ basically.
I mean if you're gonna write a serious article about italian tradtions dying, shouldn't you be focusing on the italians? hipsters basically have nothing to do w/ this phenomenon and are just being used for their comic value here.
― iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:33 (sixteen years ago)
getting dangerously close to talk of "rootless cosmopolitans" there. And, to paraphrase Lenny Bruce, EVERYONE who lives in a city is Jewish.
I suggest the tipping point may have been when someone on Seinfeld referred to Kramer as a "hipster dufus"
― simonsmith, Monday, 7 June 2010 20:57 (sixteen years ago)
U can legit be a rootless cosmopolitan, but this hipster trope seems to even mediate that
― Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 21:00 (sixteen years ago)
It feels like a middle-class Italian neighborhood to me, where people own their houses. I don't think the Italian population is getting gentrified out too quickly. Correct me if I'm wrong. My impression from walking my dogs around it every night.
― Blog is a concept by which we measure our pain (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 June 2010 21:02 (sixteen years ago)
and pulling your pants down at them
― ლ support our troops ლ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 7 June 2010 21:07 (sixteen years ago)
They aren't getting gentrified out, also, I don't get the impression that there's much if any tension between the Italian American community and the youngsters.
― thirdalternative, Monday, 7 June 2010 21:25 (sixteen years ago)
nothing that can't be bridged w/ a neighborhood italo-disco party
― iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 21:27 (sixteen years ago)
maybe a super mario bros.-themed parade.
― tylerw, Monday, 7 June 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)
http://audioporncentral.com/wp-content/plugins/hot-linked-image-cacher/upload/audioporncentral.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/10/28/italiansdoitbetter.jpg
― ლ support our troops ლ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 7 June 2010 21:36 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkkJaqBbXV8
i was expecting some music set to that
― punperson (latebloomer), Monday, 7 June 2010 21:38 (sixteen years ago)
being a hipster is hard
― ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 21:40 (sixteen years ago)
i know the advantage probably leans more hipster-ish than minibosses but I despise the minibosses approach to videogame music. i'll side with hipsters on this one.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 7 June 2010 21:42 (sixteen years ago)
not all italians are minibosses, esp not in 2010
― iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 21:46 (sixteen years ago)
I can't believe max hasn't yet reposted my disparaging comments about the awful bar Daddy's.
― thirdalternative, Monday, June 7, 2010 3:52 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
what?
― max, Saturday, 12 June 2010 22:28 (sixteen years ago)
10 movies hipsters need to get over
― sarahel, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)
if those are films hipsters bang on about, then im a total hipster
except you me and every1 we know
― frap your hands say yeah yeah yeah (history mayne), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)
Does anyone actually talk about Coffee and Cigarettes and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
― jaymc, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
nobody really gives a fuck about coffee and cigarettes, right?
lol xp
― hobbes, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:18 (fifteen years ago)
certainly not as much as Big Lebowski ...I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say complimentary things about Reality Bites
― sarahel, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
i don't really think lebowski or ferris bueller or i dunno most of those movies really connote hipster
― frap your hands say yeah yeah yeah (history mayne), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:19 (fifteen years ago)
I have never met anyone irl or online that likes Reality Bites.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:21 (fifteen years ago)
I'd say Rushmore, Lebowski, and Me & You have definite hipster followings, but like, Clockwork Orange and Ferris Bueller, not really.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)
I associate Clockwork Orange more with D&D nerds than hipsters
― sarahel, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)
yeah, exactly.. much of this list is like "film posters seen in dorm rooms"
― hobbes, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)
I've never even heard of Me & You & Everyone We Know
― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:24 (fifteen years ago)
― hobbes, Tuesday, July 6, 2010 8:24 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark
otm.
― Implied Nazarene (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)
xp Shakey - it's okay, I'm sure you would hate it and voice complete apathy if Miranda July were to die a horrible, violent death.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)
Ha, I just watched it a couple weeks ago for the first time in 10+ years. It's not that bad!
― jaymc, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:27 (fifteen years ago)
i love wet hot american summer :\
― ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ (LOLK), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:29 (fifteen years ago)
I want to see Me & You again, because I feel like I should give it another chance - first viewing I had an "Ugh ... really?" response to several scenes. I actually laughed out loud inappropriately when I saw Reality Bites in the theater.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:32 (fifteen years ago)
lol
― has arlen specter never heard clarence thomas's laugh? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:35 (fifteen years ago)
yeah :-/
― fresno's wet (gbx), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
^^ me too.
― ian, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)
stop fucking talking about it, hipsters
― endless dougie (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)
wait til you see our book--hipsters watching wet hot american summer, based on the hit tumblr.
― ian, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:55 (fifteen years ago)
I got called a hipster for karaokeing "Add It Up" last week.
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 20:56 (fifteen years ago)
hipsters ryding their own melt
― No one is too good for this album; it is better than all of us. (herb albert), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)
xpost, well tbf
― endless dougie (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)