Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

xp right on man, i was constantly surprised how many things were happening, and that the episode kept going

Had a good chortle at Skylar Wikipediaing money laundering.

hah me too. also gotta love BB's trademark blatant foreshadowing too: 1)"i'd use mom's car, but you know the brakes are like EEEKKKKKKKK" 2)walt's immensely massive denial in "I am not a murderer, you are not a murderer"

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so A) how does this not get traced back to Walt's car? and B) how does Gus not blame Jesse for this?

rip walt's latest windshield

so A) how does this not get traced back to Walt's car? and B) how does Gus not blame Jesse for this?

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i dunno, i kinda figure that by this point, having now done what they've done, walt & jesse are basically in it to win it and they're gonna have taken over the entire southwest operation by the middle of next season, with hank in tow and gus's scalp on their belt

i noticed the meet with Jesse did not warrant veggies and dip.

i thought walt would blame the deaths on jesse somehow...like maybe he was just protecting him and now will cut him loose. or maybe he's hoping he knows enough about gus to talk his way out of the repercussions.

i fucking LOVED saul's fixer guy's story...so well written and so well acted, he is a brilliant character. this whole ep was amazing tho, BB's grim montages with happy music are growing in confidence each episode!

The Association opening was stellar.

also the score during that final confrontation.

I forgot to chime in: fuuuuuuuck

I mean, that shit was more surprising than anything that ever happened in for example, lost, and it made total sense. Gosh, it's been a while since any tv made me feel like that. This show is amazing.

So. . . does anyone think that Walt is overestimating his importance here? Sure Gus would like to have the "best" chemist working for him, but couldn't he make do with someone else (like the assistant guy who Walt ditched)?

I'm re-watching a bit of S1. The tone has evolved a lot, it was more of a black farce in the early days. And yes, Skylar was way worse back then. Forgotten about all the Marie shoplifting stuff, that turned out to be kind of pointless.

xpost - think to some extent Walt just fancied a bit of suicidal craziness. He's been unusually cautious all season and hasn't done anything pointlessly self-destructive for a while.

I really loved that bit from the Fly episode where he just flat out says "I've lived too long." Really just laid it out on the table there. But really this is a natural consequence of everything that's been happening since the end of season two - despite Jesse constantly putting them at risk and his betrayals, Walt has already basically accepted him as part of his own family, and rationality and caution be damned.

He cares for Jesse a hell of a lot more than he'd admit to anyone, least of all himself.

When Gus said 'no more children' to the two dealers, did he actually mean them to go and do what they did, on the assumption that they'd tie up any loose ends and then continue without using any kids, or were they just assuming that's what they should do, or just purposefully perpetuating the thing with Jessie...

Yeah that's the real mystery there. I assume it will be cleared up next ep (just like the fact that they were dealing the blue meth was cleared up this ep.)

xxp you think? I think it's pretty obvious to everyone concerned that he cares a ton about Jesse to basically his own detriment.

It puzzled me too - I read a theory on a blog that maybe Tomas took issue with being cut loose and kicked off the altercation, which makes sense.

xpost - yeah, everyone else sees it, but Walt doesn't.

"I read a theory on a blog that maybe Tomas took issue with being cut loose and kicked off the altercation, which makes sense"

Pretty sure they could of handled Tomas without murdering him. Dude was 11.

yes but that would be a half measure

ha!

wouldn't they just kill him cos why keep him alive if you can't work with him anymore and he knows you? i didn't think it much of a mystery.

i'm wondering what the point of P.I. guys speech was now. was he insinuating Walt should kill Jesse? what actions was he trying to talk Walt into?

did he think Gus's mediation was a half measure - or Walt letting Jess do whatever with those dealers?

i figured he was saying time to kill jesse, he had become a liability. but i guess the effect of the speech could just as easily have made walt do what he did.

"wouldn't they just kill him cos why keep him alive if you can't work with him anymore and he knows you?"

Sure but they didn't have to kill him in such a public way.

yeah i guess that's true, any chance gus set this up to get jesse/walt to kill the two dudes?

That seems very hard for me to believe. Why wouldn't he just let Jesse go through with his stupid risin plan if that's the result he wanted?

yeah you're right. just idly speculating really. i honestly can't see where walt/jesse are going to go now.

Walt seems to be working off the idea that he's either untouchable or he doesn't have anything to lose (except of course his family's lives. . . ) Jesse is just going to have to leave town.

My guess is that Walt has picked up on Gus' innate sense of business, and that Gus already has a bit of a mentor fondness (or weakness) for Walt, in a similar dimension that Walt has with Jesse. Walt is probably hoping (or will, quite possibly he'll be super panicked next episode if he hasn't thought this through!) he can still negotiate with Gus, or at least stave him off for a while.

Gus' dealing with the Jesse situation was the first time we really saw cracks in his armor - it's possible he's just not cut out for the street level stuff, like Heisenberg. Maybe he made similar, horrible mistakes in his past as has been alluded to. I don't think he manipulated the situation, it seems more likely he managed it badly - a half-measure, with the pathetically vague "no kids" line, though before Jesse's "NO!" Gus was as scary and bad-ass as we've ever seen him.

I don't usually watch the Sneak Peeks on AMC btw, but the one for next ep is well worth it.

we're assuming Gus will figure out Walt had something to do with it. if Walt can get his car fixed quickly (probably by that mechanic they keep torturing) and/or dispose of the bodies well enough; i think the assumption would be Jesse is to blame. esp if he goes m.i.a.

oh ya - s03 finale is next ep!!!

aw, now i'm sad.

btw total raised eyebrow at "I am a not a murderer" from Walt.

love sarcastic hank - "yeah, that's exactly what i'm saying. now deal you little prick." the hj thing was lol, but kind of a silly way to get him out of the hospital i thought.

minor point, this ep was obv awesome and i can't wait til the finale.

NICE! (finale preview)

http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/

Cannot be viewed from my current country or location. Probably for the best.

It's not a spoiler or anything. One long & quiet landscapey scene a la Terrence Malick. But intriguing!

It certainly implies quite a bit.

Wow. Brian Cranston is a really good actor. That minute or so at the beginning of the preview clip where he sits and waits in his smashed Aztec for whatever is coming over the horizon was great. You could tell Walt was scared, and probably not scared enough, but also irritated that the person he was waiting for was late, which is kind of Walt in a nutshell. When he grabbed his hat, I said, "Heisenberg hat!!!" and that was pretty great, too.

I'm super excited about this season finale. And a little apprehensive. Shit's going to be tense. It's called Full Measures!!! Yikes.

that shit was more surprising than anything that ever happened in for example, lost, and it made total sense.

OTM

Just got caught up w/ the latest ep & yeah.. u guys have pretty much said it all already. Goddam this show fucking rules!

It's called Full Measures!!! Yikes.

^^

My thoughts on Tomas: My take on this is that the local kingpins resented being told what to do (obv), so they just "followed orders" by exploiting a loophole that would just be one big "FU" to Jesse. They had to know that he'd come back on them at some point, but these do not seem to be men who think strategically in terms of long-term consequences.

much like Jesse.

either that or Gus told the local druglords to off the kid, knowing that Jesse would go apeshit and do something inclredibly stupid that would justify killing him

"either that or Gus told the local druglords to off the kid"

Seems very unlike Gus to me, but I guess we'll find out on Sunday.

yeah i was just thinking about gus's way of trying to get rid of the cousins (and possibly hank) - by setting them against each other

jesse standing up to gus at the meet was just frickin whoa