Shall we anticpate the AMC series "Breaking Bad"? I think I may.

xp - funny... similar disagreement i have with my sister about skyler and betty draper, both of whom she identifies with much more as a wife + mom. sky has come a long way since ep1 though, keep watching!

i will be disappointed if they don't do anything else with walt jr. even if it's something as contrived as the rehab gf/combo connection... but pleased to say i'm excited for this week's ep again after the lull, which might not be such a lull on a dvd run through or whatever.

she identifies with skyler? oh no.

yeah harbl, i agreed with you pretty much 100%... unfortunately you're gonna have to tolerate it for quite a while, but the show is totally worth it. also, the seasons are relatively short.

at least skyler's not as bad as will's wife in glee, who I see they've now all but killed off she was so bad

finally caught up with last week's. so good.

marie to hank as he tries (and fails) to walk: "pain is just injury leaving your body!" hank: "pain is my foot up your ass, marie!!"

what did gus mean about making the same mistake twice? working with jesse i guess?

i was shocked to see jane. that's two people they've brought back from the dead (in flashback) this season. goddamn jesse had a good thing there huh?

the scene where BROCK and the grandmom walk in was AYOOOO CLASSIC. what is going on with jesse here? his brain is seriously malfunctioning. these guys used to know all the shitty motels and hangout spots and squats to sell to, but jesse needs to pull some kind of undercover three-day espionage shit just to sell one little deal? this is his plan??

i was convinced that when jesse get given the rock at the end he was going to look down and see blue stuff.

oh also can i just say i am glad that jesse appears to have a shred of humanity remaining.

isn't jesse's idea that they keep things more private so they're not on the streets dealing and attracting the type of people who killed his buddy?

that's two people they've brought back from the dead (in flashback) this season.

I make it three (Jane, Combo and Tortuga).

i would like to point out that like everyone on this show is a shit human and an interesting character.

after the ending to tonight's episode i'm thinkin walt oughta forget about the car wash and invest in a windshield replacement business instead

i was worried with the goofy handshake thing but then they reaffirmed my faith with the ending. no more half measures.

wooooah! "Run." goddamn, now we have to wait a week.

mind is blown

ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkkking hell

watching these late, but just finished watching the episode with the first appearance of Saul Goodman. Holy shit.

Walt is ICE COLD.

So much plot and character beats fitted into less than an hour, yet it never for a second felt rushed. How do the writers do it? I am in awe.

oh man that ending SO GOOD. this show and its HOLY SHIT moments!

xp right on man, i was constantly surprised how many things were happening, and that the episode kept going

Had a good chortle at Skylar Wikipediaing money laundering.

hah me too. also gotta love BB's trademark blatant foreshadowing too: 1)"i'd use mom's car, but you know the brakes are like EEEKKKKKKKK" 2)walt's immensely massive denial in "I am not a murderer, you are not a murderer"

run

so A) how does this not get traced back to Walt's car? and B) how does Gus not blame Jesse for this?

rip walt's latest windshield

so A) how does this not get traced back to Walt's car? and B) how does Gus not blame Jesse for this?

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i dunno, i kinda figure that by this point, having now done what they've done, walt & jesse are basically in it to win it and they're gonna have taken over the entire southwest operation by the middle of next season, with hank in tow and gus's scalp on their belt

i noticed the meet with Jesse did not warrant veggies and dip.

i thought walt would blame the deaths on jesse somehow...like maybe he was just protecting him and now will cut him loose. or maybe he's hoping he knows enough about gus to talk his way out of the repercussions.

i fucking LOVED saul's fixer guy's story...so well written and so well acted, he is a brilliant character. this whole ep was amazing tho, BB's grim montages with happy music are growing in confidence each episode!

The Association opening was stellar.

also the score during that final confrontation.

I forgot to chime in: fuuuuuuuck

I mean, that shit was more surprising than anything that ever happened in for example, lost, and it made total sense. Gosh, it's been a while since any tv made me feel like that. This show is amazing.

So. . . does anyone think that Walt is overestimating his importance here? Sure Gus would like to have the "best" chemist working for him, but couldn't he make do with someone else (like the assistant guy who Walt ditched)?

I'm re-watching a bit of S1. The tone has evolved a lot, it was more of a black farce in the early days. And yes, Skylar was way worse back then. Forgotten about all the Marie shoplifting stuff, that turned out to be kind of pointless.

xpost - think to some extent Walt just fancied a bit of suicidal craziness. He's been unusually cautious all season and hasn't done anything pointlessly self-destructive for a while.

I really loved that bit from the Fly episode where he just flat out says "I've lived too long." Really just laid it out on the table there. But really this is a natural consequence of everything that's been happening since the end of season two - despite Jesse constantly putting them at risk and his betrayals, Walt has already basically accepted him as part of his own family, and rationality and caution be damned.

He cares for Jesse a hell of a lot more than he'd admit to anyone, least of all himself.

When Gus said 'no more children' to the two dealers, did he actually mean them to go and do what they did, on the assumption that they'd tie up any loose ends and then continue without using any kids, or were they just assuming that's what they should do, or just purposefully perpetuating the thing with Jessie...

Yeah that's the real mystery there. I assume it will be cleared up next ep (just like the fact that they were dealing the blue meth was cleared up this ep.)

xxp you think? I think it's pretty obvious to everyone concerned that he cares a ton about Jesse to basically his own detriment.

It puzzled me too - I read a theory on a blog that maybe Tomas took issue with being cut loose and kicked off the altercation, which makes sense.

xpost - yeah, everyone else sees it, but Walt doesn't.

"I read a theory on a blog that maybe Tomas took issue with being cut loose and kicked off the altercation, which makes sense"

Pretty sure they could of handled Tomas without murdering him. Dude was 11.

yes but that would be a half measure

ha!

wouldn't they just kill him cos why keep him alive if you can't work with him anymore and he knows you? i didn't think it much of a mystery.

i'm wondering what the point of P.I. guys speech was now. was he insinuating Walt should kill Jesse? what actions was he trying to talk Walt into?

did he think Gus's mediation was a half measure - or Walt letting Jess do whatever with those dealers?

i figured he was saying time to kill jesse, he had become a liability. but i guess the effect of the speech could just as easily have made walt do what he did.

"wouldn't they just kill him cos why keep him alive if you can't work with him anymore and he knows you?"

Sure but they didn't have to kill him in such a public way.

yeah i guess that's true, any chance gus set this up to get jesse/walt to kill the two dudes?

That seems very hard for me to believe. Why wouldn't he just let Jesse go through with his stupid risin plan if that's the result he wanted?

yeah you're right. just idly speculating really. i honestly can't see where walt/jesse are going to go now.

Walt seems to be working off the idea that he's either untouchable or he doesn't have anything to lose (except of course his family's lives. . . ) Jesse is just going to have to leave town.

My guess is that Walt has picked up on Gus' innate sense of business, and that Gus already has a bit of a mentor fondness (or weakness) for Walt, in a similar dimension that Walt has with Jesse. Walt is probably hoping (or will, quite possibly he'll be super panicked next episode if he hasn't thought this through!) he can still negotiate with Gus, or at least stave him off for a while.

Gus' dealing with the Jesse situation was the first time we really saw cracks in his armor - it's possible he's just not cut out for the street level stuff, like Heisenberg. Maybe he made similar, horrible mistakes in his past as has been alluded to. I don't think he manipulated the situation, it seems more likely he managed it badly - a half-measure, with the pathetically vague "no kids" line, though before Jesse's "NO!" Gus was as scary and bad-ass as we've ever seen him.

I don't usually watch the Sneak Peeks on AMC btw, but the one for next ep is well worth it.