xp Do they work their glistening, taut muscles almost daily in practical application? No? Then they're white collar. (See unusual details wikipedia thread.)
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:48 (sixteen years ago)
Grey area. Grey collar. (ew.)
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:49 (sixteen years ago)
OK now you guys are just being nerdy pedants.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:50 (sixteen years ago)
and?
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:51 (sixteen years ago)
touche my dear.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:53 (sixteen years ago)
He does it do save the time he would spend deciding what to wear; they do it because it's what guys like them wear.
I hope I'm not the only guy on ILX this describes perfectly. I'm pretty sure it covers a pretty high % of guys irl anyway.
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:54 (sixteen years ago)
Brazil has a clerical worker hooking up with a truck driver
― The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:57 (sixteen years ago)
Terminator. Sarah Connor just a hard workin' waitress, Kyle just a hard workin' resistance fighter, T-101 just a hard-workin' killer robot.
― sent from my neural lace (ledge), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:58 (sixteen years ago)
Gordon Gocko's pretty hard workin, is he blue collar?
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 10:59 (sixteen years ago)
Gordon Gocko, whatta guy huh
http://oakey.net/decals/images/Elvis%20TCB%20Band.jpg
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:00 (sixteen years ago)
"A Clockwork Orange"
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:00 (sixteen years ago)
No.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:01 (sixteen years ago)
Eh?
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:02 (sixteen years ago)
Poshos
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:03 (sixteen years ago)
Yarbles
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:04 (sixteen years ago)
Tom D., I'd be interested to hear your case for that. But it seems clear to me that Alex is supposed to be an over-privileged little snot.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:05 (sixteen years ago)
Repo Man
― Otherwise you're kinda being comp-lit in his racism. (kkvgz), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:06 (sixteen years ago)
In fact, the whole movie takes place in this vaguely futuristic place where almost everyone is over-privileged, and if you're not, you're living in a tunnel waiting to get the shit kicked out of you by snots like Alex. It's kind of part of the plot. At any rate, it ain't blue collar.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:09 (sixteen years ago)
Repo Man is excellent, yes.
Lives in a tower block. Parents seem fairly w/c. Northern accent. One of his friends is Warren Clarke!
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:10 (sixteen years ago)
There are British-specific overtones that I do not understand, clearly.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:11 (sixteen years ago)
In fact, the whole movie takes place in this vaguely futuristic place where almost everyone is over-privileged
Writers, intellectuals, politicians still more privileged though.
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:12 (sixteen years ago)
Probably. The accent is quite important... though only Alex and his family have Northern accents, Dim + Georgie are Cockney.
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:14 (sixteen years ago)
But Alex also speaks a made-up language that's half Russian.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:17 (sixteen years ago)
argh beat me to Brazil
― Don't look at the finger (Ste), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:17 (sixteen years ago)
At any rate, I do not believe that the intention was to portray Alex as economically put-upon.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:18 (sixteen years ago)
I agree. You're probably right that he is relatively pampered and privileged but then that's what crusty social conservatives (like Anthony Burgess?) invariably said about juvenile delinquents in the 50s/ 60s
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:22 (sixteen years ago)
Ok are you defending Alex? This ain't Rebel Without A Cause, dude's a dangerous sociopath.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:23 (sixteen years ago)
LOL. He is the hero of the book after all!
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:25 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah I never saw the droogs in CW as working class, tho tbh class wasnt really relevant in that film, but they did have a spot of educated cruelty about their persons.
― property-disrespecting Moroccan handjob (Trayce), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:26 (sixteen years ago)
Dim? Educated?
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:29 (sixteen years ago)
they did have a spot of educated cruelty about their persons.
Prep school rapists, yeah.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:30 (sixteen years ago)
alex always felt like a bit of an aspirational dandy to me, pretensions that went beyond whatever small ambitions were harbored by his droogs - i.e. he was working class through and through
― The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:35 (sixteen years ago)
Alex = classic Mod taken to its logical conclusion, tbh.
― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:36 (sixteen years ago)
xp Yeah, I can see that, actually. It's the perfect makings of a bully, really.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:37 (sixteen years ago)
Indeed, written before mods even existed!
― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:37 (sixteen years ago)
Well there just weren't as many zings back in those days, you didn't need mods
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 11:48 (sixteen years ago)
x-post Yeah just about every John Carpenter joint.
"Gattaca" is about class, isn't it?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 11:59 (sixteen years ago)
Almost more about eugenics, really?
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:02 (sixteen years ago)
Eugenics is about class.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:04 (sixteen years ago)
But isn't Ethan Hawke a janitor or something who aspires to more?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 June 2010 12:48 (sixteen years ago)
Stretching a point maybe, but Tetsuo is definitely examining Japanese middle-class identity, albeit through the medium of a white-collar guy's penis mutating into a giant rotating drill. I guess that's class-based sf though, rather than specifically blue-collar.
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Friday, 4 June 2010 12:52 (sixteen years ago)
Fifth Mothertrucking Element
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 12:57 (sixteen years ago)
^ too often ignored
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:03 (sixteen years ago)
Total Recall
Nah Ahnold is pure executive
― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:05 (sixteen years ago)
But Quaid is way gritty.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:05 (sixteen years ago)
Dude... he's actually a
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, 4 June 2010 13:06 (sixteen years ago)
CONSTRUCTION WORKER
which one is Aunt Beru and and which one is Uncle Owen?
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 19:39 (sixteen years ago)
xxxp
― Jarlrmai, Friday, 4 June 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
Posted this thread as a response to Star Wars, as a sense, which is space opera only in a scruffier universe. Ridley Scott took that look and mixed it with the 70s bits of trucker films, Dark Star, Silent Running, et al, and did his own.
― Don Homer, I have baked a special donut just-a for you (kingfish), Friday, 4 June 2010 22:46 (sixteen years ago)
"My last job was programming binary load-lifters, very similar to your vaporators!"
Me at every job interview ever.
― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Friday, June 4, 2010 3:28 PM Bookmark
LOL
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:30 (fifteen years ago)
"They Live" is the ultimate blue collar scifi film.
― Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:44 (fifteen years ago)
'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' - i.e. Richard Dreyfuss' character.
― Chooglin'alCarbon, Saturday, 5 June 2010 07:08 (fifteen years ago)
Non blue collar sci-fi = Wyndham
― Jarlrmai, Saturday, 5 June 2010 13:29 (fifteen years ago)
I haven't seen it since it aired in 1993, but I remember Space Rangers as going for an Alien inspired blue collar atmosphere
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/Space_Rangers_cast.JPG
― GENE PITNEY'S SWEATER BY KANDAHAR (los blue jeans), Saturday, 5 June 2010 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
Does 12 Monkeys ever tell you what Cole's job was before he was put in prison?
― James Mitchell, Saturday, 5 June 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)
I think Starcraft 2 fits in this category. Interesting mix of backgrounds, too, as you have the hero with his southern/hick/redneck drawl vs the lambchopped mechanic with a strong NY accent
― Don Homer (kingfish), Thursday, 5 August 2010 06:18 (fifteen years ago)
You can't have a white collar/blue collar distinction in slavery
In the pre-Civil War U.S. south, there were house slaves and field slaves.
― Charlie Chaliapin (j.lu), Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:31 (fifteen years ago)
I suppose someone should mention the Planet Express delivery team.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
Hmm, true, tho the vibe I always got from them is more white collar/90's corporate/kinko's/fed-ex like
but I guess Scruffy would have harsh words for that
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Scruffy_2_9337.jpg
― Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:00 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5cAwTEEGNE
― Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
this was a solid thread, well done everyone
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)
"the island", while indefensibly shitty, was ultimately pretty working class
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)
"indefensibly shitty, was ultimately pretty working class"haha that's all of michael bay's movies.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
Playing Borderlands 2 this weekend and realized that both this game and Guardians of the Galaxy(much like Starcraft I & II) had great depictions of sci-fi rednecks/hillbillies. Yet again, I posit that Michael Rooker will probably never get the full credit for what he contributes to GotG.
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:28 (eleven years ago)
Ha, and I completely forgot this thread had this exchange:
Yeah, but C3PO is a "protocol droid", i.e. built for a white collar job. Can you imagine him doing manual work?"My last job was programming binary load-lifters, very similar to your vaporators!"
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)
I guess we can add Elysium / Total Recall(remake) to this list, and also Edge of Tomorrow, which pointedly highlights the contrast between grunt & pretty-boy officer
― Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:33 (eleven years ago)
I'm watching Snowpiercer right now. Definitely counts.
― Scary Darey (dog latin), Sunday, 24 August 2014 02:39 (eleven years ago)
that repo men flick from a few years back. terrible, but working class, even trying to say something abt it.
― Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Sunday, 24 August 2014 07:51 (eleven years ago)