i am still a hater.
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link
reminds me why I never pick up the Atlantic. "The Wire is a work of fiction. And the creator of the series is incredibly cynical." THX HOW MUCH DOCTOR
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, that's kind of how I felt as well, except that I think there's a slight danger of people taking the show without a necessary grain of salt because its realism is so far beyond anything else on TV that it sometimes comes off as "the way things are."
I did realize from the picture that Simon looks a bit like the guy they cast for Levy, which I thought was interesting since he's probably the most detestable character but also the one who *defends drug dealers*. It made me wonder if Simon wasn't making a subtle joke about himself with the casting.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean, ok, not THAT much alike:
http://www.theatlantic.com/images/issues/200801/wire.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0a/The_Wire_Levy.jpg/250px-The_Wire_Levy.jpg
but I still wonder
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I suspect he has more in common with frank subotka.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 1 February 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know about that.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link
there was bound to be a bald white guy in the show at some point.
fwiw Simon's one on-camera moment was as a reporter when Sobotka was arrested.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 1 February 2008 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link
bald white jewish guy though
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, then it's uncanny
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 1 February 2008 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link
ugh i am so jealous my friend was like 'i started new internship and the first thing they did was put me in a cab to go have chris bauer sign a contract and i was like 'omg i am face to face with frank sobotka'' and now i hate her and i hate my job even more :(
― tehresa, Friday, 1 February 2008 06:36 (sixteen years ago) link
did I mention I am a regular at the same bar as odell watkins
― El Tomboto, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:07 (sixteen years ago) link
still trying to figure out how to hang with bunk tho
― El Tomboto, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:08 (sixteen years ago) link
bring him one bathrobe???
― tehresa, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link
and a cigar
well see it's more about finding which area bars they hang out at first bathrobes and cigars I have plenty of
― El Tomboto, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:16 (sixteen years ago) link
you pimp
― tehresa, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:18 (sixteen years ago) link
i just finally watched the 4th episode and it was a lot better than the 3rd. the two obvious weak spots this season are the serial-killer thing (which i initially defended on one of these threads because i didn't fully appreciate the stupidity of it) and the fabricating reporter. but the rest of it's good. most of the newspaper stuff is right on -- like the federal courts guy saying "do you want one reporter covering two court systems?", i worked at a paper that did exactly that. (same paper made me cover an entire 50,000-student public school system AND a state university, because they'd cut the university reporter position.) but my favorite bits in the episode were small character moments: herc and carver talking in the parking lot; the grin daniels allows himself at rawls' desk; kima with elijah; michael with his mom. i think those are the payoffs you can get in a 5th season when you've put so much time into back stories and characters.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 1 February 2008 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link
also r.i.p. prop joe. one of my faves. sold out by method man.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 1 February 2008 08:58 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know why i keep scanning this thread and risking/seeing major character death spoilers when i haven't even finished s4 yet.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link
just assume that everybody gets killed. that way you'll be surprised by the ones who don't.
― tipsy mothra, Friday, 1 February 2008 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link
tipsy otm, I love the little moments in these episodes like Herc and Carver, etc.
the Wire auction I went to last week was a little disappointing, the stuff being auctioned wasn't as cool as what they had at the one my dad went to on one of the show's actual sets circa season 4, but some of that stuff is now part of an eBay auction too: http://stores.ebay.com/hbothewireauction so you could possibly get a DVD set signed by the cast for as little as a hundred bucks
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link
looooool okay mcnulty in the newspaper office pretty much justifies the whole serial killer storyline.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link
RONG
― milo z, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Has Bunk had any dialogue that didn't involve berating McNulty for being a fuck up?
― milo z, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link
o yeah, in the bar about white chicks in Aruba
― milo z, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
When Homicide got the OT approval for a second detective, why was Greggs brought on instead of Freamon? Is it because Command didn't know Freamon was helping out McNutty?
― Leee, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link
ep6 was definitely the first time The Wire has mentioned O'Malley as a past mayor (I guess as a gesture of finally saying "Carcetti is not Wire-world O'Malley, dammit!"), but was that the first time the show's mentioned Schmoke?
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:17 (sixteen years ago) link
although acknowledging O'Malley's existence in the show's universe really kind of screws with all the season 3/4 talk about how Carcetti couldn't get elected because he's the "wrong color" when apparently all that time he could've cited O'M as a recent white mayor.
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
wasn't Freamon supposed to be working the case against Davis?
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Thursday, 7 February 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
"Nevermind" MUST be the absolute coldest thing to say to someone before shooting him in the skull, right?
― Mike Dixn, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Could somebody please tell me (without spoilers) if this season has gotten better since the end of ep 2? Thx.
― 31g, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link
mike dxn i think that's from after s05 right? so stfu on this thread.
31g -- yes it does, but it's still the weakest series so far :(
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 15 February 2008 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link
disagree
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 February 2008 10:54 (sixteen years ago) link
it's smaller in scope but what do you expect with only 10 episodes
that's only two fewer than series 2. if anything it's larger in scope, though! so it needs more space than it has to do what it needs to. hamsterdam was a big stretch, plasubility-wise, but they sold it well. although the consequences of what mcnulty's doing are convincing, and i respect it more than i did initially, i still find it really hard to get behing the fake serial killer story. i guess it's david simon's take on iraq, more than any previous series. (+ omar as osama bin laden anyone?)
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 15 February 2008 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link
stupid serial killer shenanigans get stupider
― milo z, Monday, 18 February 2008 05:40 (sixteen years ago) link
+ omar as osama bin laden anyone?
i would love to see a diagram of the inside of your mind sometime
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 February 2008 11:28 (sixteen years ago) link
the series is pretty clearly an extended skit on the WoT; i don't think he's doing a direct one-for-one thing, it's not an allegory, but the extent to which marlo will fuck up his business to settle scores with omar... i think a case could be made. otoh the imaginary serial killer is osama too.
this ep was better, lol at munch cameo, powerhouse clay davis shit, but seriously this serial killer thing was a terrible idea.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 18 February 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link
this episode was great EXCEPT for the increasing absurdity of the serial killer plot. Handing out hours and help to everyone in homicide? This isn't going to be noticed? A serial killer abducts a victim, phones it in to the paper - and no one meets with the paper except for one homicide detective? A serial killer in Baltimore, images of the newest victim splashed all over the paper (and national news) - and no one working in the DC shelter is going to notice a striking resemblance to their newly arrived charge?
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
The shelter was in Richmond VA, right? Still far-fetched.
― eater, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I felt so bad for that hobo i wanted to puke.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link
munch!
― adam, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, doesn't Baltimore have street/traffic cameras everywhere? Mightn't somebody go look up the footage of the missing guy's corner and see the abduction? I think earlier seasons mostly stood up better to this kind of nitpicking.
― eater, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
im sure mcnulty would consider camera angles
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
how are they planning to bring the case in? won't they have to explain an illegal wiretap, etc?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
naw they wait for marlo to be in the room w/lol hueg greek drug shipment then say they got a tip is all
― jhøshea, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Thank god for CIs.
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link
disappointed that Bubs isn't getting more time
― milo z, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
drugs on the table.
i want them to pull it off tbh.
but i guess it's a race for the prize w. omar.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
no they're not everywhere, they're very deliberately placed in mostly poor, non-white areas
― am0n, Tuesday, 19 February 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link