ILX TOP 50 FILMS OF 2000-2004 BALLOTS/VOTING

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gear plz to paypal yr lunch money

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

geddit - 'after the end'

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Bring It On is excellent - it was on my shortlist, though it didn't make my 15.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

bring it on was underwhelming really, i dont know why its everybodys token 00s teen movie

― zzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

what's your token?

(i ask because rentals are free for clerks like me)

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

cant hardly wait, i know what you did last summer, cruel intentions, american pie 1 & 2, the wood, election, loser, the faculty, varsity blues, etc etc etc

― zzzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I like what of those I've seen except for AP2. If I was going to make a list CI, AP1, Election and the Faculty (that was 00s?) could make it.

This whole thread is going to be pretty worthwhile for me - I've seen very few movies from 00-04, in part because I didn't feel like having the debates with friends after Donnie Darko & Mulholland Dr. (my favorite positive reviews of the latter were "i like movies where you find a dead body and it's you" and "it keeps you from having to watch Lost Highway")

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I had real trouble choosing between Saved! and Legally Blonde as my token teen movie, but in the end I chose the latter. As much as I liked Saved! I thought it was perhaps trying a bit too much to appeal to liberal sensibilities, whereas Legally Blonde was subtly feminist but never preached about it.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"it keeps you from having to watch Lost Highway"

This is true, actually.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

the token 00s teen movie appears to be from the 90s

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Though Lost Highway is better.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

ethan has no love for gabrielle union? i damn near put mean girls on there too but started to think 'maybe let's not go that far'. mean girls probably is better, but bring it on has CHOREOGRAPHY and SHOWMANSHIP (although yes mean girls does have DEAR GOD JUST LOOK AT THEM).

most of those flix are last decade ethan, plus cant hardly wait suxx the only reason to watch it is to laff that half the cast ended up on six feet under, cruel intentions rules but the sequel's better, never saw the faculty, still somehow haven't seen varsity blues (i know i know).

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god saved(!) is really funny, i forgot that shit! legally blonde was aight w/ some classic jokes but it draggedddddddd

― zzzzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

The best of those films weren't 00s, Ethan - Election is particular. I had Legally Blonde higher on my shortlist than Bring It On, in fact.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

pretty sure the faculty was '99. i remember a spin from around then with jordana brewster on the cover.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway i dont hate bring it on by any means, its a great movie!! this is just the same kinda bewilderment i have when dudes pick like supreme clientele as a token rap album

― zzzzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

and actually, I mean I didn't want to have debates with friends like the ones I had after Darko and Mulholland. Those two and Ghost World told me I needed to avoid the youth-oriented arthouse for awhile.

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Mean Girls I think was trying too much, I think. It felt like a more politically correct version of Saved!.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't like Saved or Mean Girls that much. They both went for a weird place where they tried to be subversive, but also completely mainstream and lived up to genre conventions. The comedy was never biting enough and the endings blah.

I prefer something like Election or Can't Hardly Wait (or 10 Things I Hate About You or the ballet movie with the girl from 10 Things or...) that stick with one direction.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

saved is fucking awful ethan! i can't believe you liked that shit, dorky smug blue state 'xians aren't real xians', they totally wasted mandy moore (she was funnier in the same role on entourage), ugh ugh ugh, that thing only showed in athens cuz of stipe. seriously i still got some residual love for early hal hartley, but if you see martin donovan run the other way.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

ooh 10 things was pretty good

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I might've actually liked Donnie Darko if it hadn't all the sci-fi bullshit. Great athmosphere and acting ruined by fanboy geekery.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i didnt realize yall just meant 00s - havent even read the first 2/3rds of this thread!! anyway american pie was 2001 (saw it 3 times at beechwood) so thatd be my "token" pick, with additional props to loser and, i dunno, jeepers creepers? final destination?

― zzzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

haha blount i thought saved was really funny, it didnt seem smug when i saw it w/ a teen movie audience & lots of the jokes were only funny if you grew up thick with evangelicals

― zzzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

teen movie audience = teens

― zzzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think American Pie was in the 1990s.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway isnt maryland only a blue state cuz of bmore? it aint massachussets dude

― zzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Faculty was '98 and American Pie 1 was '99.

(x-post)

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

tuomas i said ap2, ap1 was 99 ap2 was 01 ap3 was 03 (it was aight)

― zzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

final destination has a special place in my heart for seeming DePalma-esque rather than Hitchcock-esque

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

My token teen pick would be "Napoleon Dynamite" but I know that gets no love around here.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha oh wait i didnt say ap2 oops! i didnt see ap1 til we rented the video in 2000 anyway

― zzzzzzz, Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

and cmon election's not a teenflick really (it's about matthew broderick more than anyone else) and legally blonde's not a teenflick at all - she's in law school for christs sake!

american pie is totally 90s cuz i remember this girl in that catpower ripoff band that hasn't spoken to me this decade cuz i once suggested maybe she should pursue other interests besides music once told me when road trip was shooting on campus that she saw stifler on campus. the sequels are this decade though.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

debates with friends like the ones I had after Darko and Mulholland. Those two and Ghost World told me I needed to avoid the youth-oriented arthouse

Are you talking about a specific arthouse? Cuz I don't see any of those films as pitched at an age group, certainly not GW or MD esp (in fact, I think they're all better apprec'd by over-30s).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

haha in state college, pa they all play at the kern graduate student center.

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The one thing I didn't like about Saved! that even with it's supposed subversiness the girl had to keep her baby - though I guess it fitted with the character, her being a devout Christian and all. Anyway, it seems like every time in an American mainstream movie someone wants to get an abortion, she either A) changes her mind at the last moment, or B) her life is ruined and she can't forget what she did even 10 years after. Has there ever been a movie whereone someone gets an abortion, griefs for a time, and gets over it?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

anyway isnt maryland only a blue state cuz of bmore? it aint massachussets dude

maryland is a blue state cuz lots of black people live in it.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Final Destination 2 had better death scenes than FD1. The last one is classic.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link

guess I gotta rent that!

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Ghost World was (lightly) pitched to high school weirdoes (ala Rushmore & Nap Dynamite).

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

and cuz Bill Clinton turned Northeast Corridor suburbans into democrats

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

"Has there ever been a movie whereone someone gets an abortion, griefs for a time, and gets over it?"

Fast Times At Ridgemont High?

― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

ghost world's pitched at pervy old white dudes, made by pervy old white dudes - it's like fubu for whie people!

i totally would've voted for the first final destination but the experience of seeing the second one is one of the more disturbing experiences of my life (i think i've told this story before). stoked for the 3rd! death u so crafty!

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Still can't ride in an elevator, can you?

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

renting this tomorrow

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

the voice had a thing about how almost noone has abortions in pop culture anymore (bigups to claire on six feet under!), how at most the more transgressive shows might go as far as show someone considering it but then breaking down and going 'i can't do it - i've made up my mind! i'm keeping my baby!', i got kinda annoyed when nip/tuck pulled this shit the other night (although i was kinda amused they had her schedule her abortion for xmas eve, at night no less - yeah, that's plausible).

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link

WHAT IF MARY

― 'Twan (miccio), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

milo my disturbing experience had little to do with the movie (though it sure didn't help) and more to do with the surroundings.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

i didn't bring money today : (

― gear (gear), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

there are other methods of compensation

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

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