OMG I WANT THIS AMAZING RONALDINHO BOTTLE OPENER

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which you are now doing I guess

― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

and what, that looks fuck all like Ronaldinho. you see, he has these big ol' teeth and jums...

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

and now i shall retire to spectate from the stands, as Curtis has commanded.

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

good god am I your fucking mother?

― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.casafree.com/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/21493/pele%20domina%20maradona.jpg

it's Pele doing keepy ups with Maradona! nothing to do with the thread, but a great image, nonetheless.

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

someone should image bomb this thread into the next world

any image requests?

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

THAT READ SO WRONG CURTIS

― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm perfectly willing to accept that this item was not made with any racist motivation, that what is being caricatured is R's teeth, which is his most notable physical idiosyncracy. I don't think that the makers of it are targeting R's race any more than those who make fun of Crouch are making fun of his. BUT, because it so closely resembles hateful iconography, I wouldn't go anywhere near it--I choose not to buy this particular product, not merely because novelty bottle-openers aren't really my style, but mostly because of the racist connotations. That's understandable, right?

― G00blar, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and that sculpture is completely unrecognizable as Ronaldinho. :-P

unfished business on Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:44 PM (6 seconds ago)

http://blog.turntablelab.com/images/ronaldinho.jpg http://www.oceleb.com/img/ronaldinho/ronaldinho.jpg http://i9.tinypic.com/2vwa89h.jpg

― and what, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Pele & Maradona.

― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

While I'm at it, since when was having big fucking gums a black stereotype?

WAHT

If I was to list traditional 'darkie-deco' features I'd never think of saying 'big gums' - what I've seen has emphasised big lips, fat nostrils, shiney white eyes, shiny white teeth, afro hair, etc.

― onimo, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

can someone point me to the non-racist history of stuff that looks like this bottle opener? like, anything else?

Oh, look, it's a caricature of a big-toothed person with exaggeratedly big teeth.

http://www.caricaturist.co.uk/images/Tony%20Blair%201%20web.jpg

― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

The mouth and eyebrows in yours are rubbish, Ethan. The eyes and nose are good.

― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

what G00blar said

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

onimo did you ever see 'forrest gump'

― and what, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

come on, Ailsa. not the same thing!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

OMG LOOK A RECOGNIZABLE SCULPTURE OF RONALDINHO THAT ISNT A DARKIE STEREOTYPE HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE

and what

Sculpture != caricature.

― onimo, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's somewhat laudable to be at a stage where iconography like that is tied directly to one person and is not indicative of an entire culture.

Having said that, if you can recognize WHY someone would associate that bottle opener with largely racist iconography, don't foist this disingenuous "oh but I just don't UNDERSTAND why you'd think it was racist!" bullshit on us. So far, the most cogent argument has come from Johnny B, largely because he simply said, "It never occurred to me to look at it that way" and didn't spend time lambasting people who DID associate it with darkie-deco.

HI DERE on Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:37 PM

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S A RACIST "MOTIVE" THERE IS A GIGANTIC BODY OF RACIST ICONOGRAPHY THAT THAT BOTTLE OPENER FITS PERFECTLY

ghost rider on Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:22 PM

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

any image requests?

kenan on Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:46 (1 minute ago)

sharks, bananas and mountains with sunrises or sunsets.

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

That Blair thing is very close to the bottle opener. It's in the cheekbones.

― Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Alisa OTM

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thebluebird.ws/images/victor%20wooten.jpg

― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

guys, we all know that caricatures exist, but they don't have the same historical resonance when they're of white people! the instrumentalization of the Ronaldhino caricature to open bottles is also worth noting!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGHHHHHHHH

KILL THIS THREAD NOW before it gets any worse. PLEEEASE.

p.s. curtis, what's eating you today? :-P

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

If I wanted to make this thread even more tempestuous, I'd post a caricature of Condoleezza Rice.

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/31/94907730_61ac0b8cd7.jpg

― and what, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

ban kenan's serial killer ass plz

― and what, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

as an American , posting in a crap styel and speling poorly so people think I am European of some sort , I side with those putting an end to shit - quality UK novelty gags that rely on steroetypes and charicatures , of whatever stylees. but fite the real enemy FREE PÆTER CROUCHY

― Dimension 5ive, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

h, and that sculpture is completely unrecognizable as Ronaldinho. :-P

unfished business on Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:44 PM (8 minutes ago)

Are you sure that you didn't mean :-B ?

― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA PP OMG

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

at last, some good humour to defuse the situation! some of you highly-strung types ought to learn a lesson from this. looking at you, ethan.

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LIMEY RETARD

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

if it's all-out war you want, i've got all evening, but i'd rather not tyvm.

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LIMEY RETARD

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

What have you guys got against retards?

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

looking back with the benefit of the distance time affords to that warm March day in 2007, it became clear to me that the Americans on the thread were just cranky because of the repeated references to soccer as football. this attitude, i reflected, was very likely to be related to the failure of the swastika-shaped potato snacks i tried to market in the US as 'crisps'.

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

oh hell yeah

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41707000/jpg/_41707040_crouchrobo4416300.jpg

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Why is calling someone a "retard" acceptable, but taking the piss out of a black man for something unrelated to his colour isn't?

― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

um, several xposts again.

― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Why is calling someone a "retard" acceptable, but taking the piss out of a black man for something unrelated to his colour isn't?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

how is retard offensive?

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

are you saying being black is like being retarded?

― and what, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

they be takin' my Bucket

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

more to the point:

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― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

you've never had a bucket dude

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Though I have vague memories from another thread that it's because some Americans are insensitive to the negative connotations of the word and the way that the mentally ill have historically been treated through stereotyping and insults.

― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tFdTp_qanE maybe?

― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

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