― petlover, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
welcome to the jungle!
― n_RQ, Saturday, 16 July 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)
Whether you personally like the link or not—and it's a disturbing one for the politically apathetic, because it implicates us all in decisions our government has made over the years, and makes us all footsoldiers in distant wars—it is something that comes up time and again in reports of the formative thinking in the minds of the people who commit these extreme acts.
The New York Times yesterday published an article entitled Anger Burns On Fringe of Britain's Muslims. It begins:
"At Beeston's Cross Flats Park, in the center of this now embattled town, Sanjay Dutt and his friends grappled Friday with why their friend Kakey, better known to the world as Shehzad Tanweer, had decided to become a suicide bomber.
"He was sick of it all, all the injustice and the way the world is going about it," Mr. Dutt, 22, said. "Why, for example, don't they ever take a moment of silence for all the Iraqi kids who die?"
"It's a double standard, that's why," answered a friend, who called himself Shahroukh, also 22, wearing a baseball cap and basketball jersey, sitting nearby. "I don't approve of what he did, but I understand it. You get driven to something like this, it doesn't just happen."
Later:
That anger stems not merely from unhappiness with the situation of Muslims in Britain, but also solidarity with what they see as the aggressive and unjust treatment of Muslims abroad, and not least from Britain's part in the war in Iraq."
― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 17 July 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 17 July 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 17 July 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
― richardk (Richard K), Sunday, 17 July 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 17 July 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)
Also an Al'Q supporting Sunni kid in the UK is not going to cry for Shia dead in Iraq, but will for the dead of Fallujah.
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
if the full-on civil war comes (which dear god i hope it does not), it will make the lebanese civil war look as simple and bloodless as a chess match
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 17 July 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 17 July 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)
"Britain's involvement in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan contributed to the terrorist attacks in London, a respected independent thinktank on foreign affairs, the Chatham House organisation, says today."
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)
The US is the world's prime hegemon, a military-political-ideological prime mover. For this reason, whoever is killing whoever else, it won't be too much of a leap to pin the blame on the US if the US is involved in any way, or has an interest in the outcome of a dispute. The Guardian article says "Britain's ability to carry out counter-terrorism measures has also been hampered because the US is always in the driving seat in deciding policy." Whoever is involved, and isn't the US, is necessarily out of control.
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)
And the battle of the Boyne has contributed to IRA attacks. Yes the Iraq war has a bearing on what these people did but it is not the route cause, it is not what started them on the road to terrorism and it's naive to think otherwise.
― Ed (dali), Monday, 18 July 2005 04:40 (twenty years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 18 July 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 18 July 2005 08:13 (twenty years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Monday, 18 July 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Thursday, 4 August 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)
capital stuff, george. the iraqis are doing for "all the people of the world" now.
― N_RQ, Thursday, 4 August 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Thursday, 4 August 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
When at Thy call my weary feet I turnThe gates of paradise are opened wideAt Goodison I know a man can learnRapture more rich than Anfield can provide.
In Coulter's skill and Geldard's subtle speedI see displayed in all its matchless bountyThe power of which the heavens decreedThe fall of Sunderland and Derby County.
The hands of Sagar, Dixie's priceless headMade smooth the path to Wembley till that dayWhen Bolton came. Now hopes are fledAnd all is sunk in bottomless dismay.
And so I watch with heart and temper* coolGod's lesser breed of men at Liverpool.
(Or temple, as some have it.)
Now on with regular programming.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Friday, 5 August 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)
Er....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2010/jul/08/george-galloway-dusty-springfield
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Thursday, 8 July 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19323783
Galloway - Assange is only guilty of "bad sexual etiquette".
― Matt DC, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:30 (thirteen years ago)
Types of bad sexual etiquetteFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bad sexual etiquette can be categorized in different ways: for example, by reference to the situation in which it occurs, by the identity or characteristics of the victim, and/or by the identity or characteristics of the perpetrator. These categories are referred to as types of bad sexual etiquette.
Contents
1 Groth typology 2 Date bad sexual etiquette 3 Gang bad sexual etiquette 4 Spousal bad sexual etiquette 5 bad sexual etiquette of children 6 Statutory bad sexual etiquette 7 Prison bad sexual etiquette 8 War bad sexual etiquette 9 bad sexual etiquette by deception 10 Corrective bad sexual etiquette 11 See also 12 References
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:38 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/feb/21/george-galloway-debate-israeli-oxford
― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 21 February 2013 15:55 (thirteen years ago)
anti-semitic Stalinist does something anti-semitic, film at 11
― tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:27 (thirteen years ago)
that makes it ok then
― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:28 (thirteen years ago)
glad thats settled
nah, i'm just saying Galloway is a reprehensible human being, what else is there to add?
― tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:32 (thirteen years ago)
doesnt stop us all moaning about the daily mail
― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:34 (thirteen years ago)
I suppose the american ilxors wont see it in here but maybe its best theyre unaware of george
― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:36 (thirteen years ago)
George Galloway @georgegalloway@thomasmessenger an Israeli citizen could not by definition be my constituent.
o_0
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:37 (thirteen years ago)
i think he means he doesn't understand how electoral law works there, as well as being an anti-semite obviously
― tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 February 2013 16:38 (thirteen years ago)
Was brian cox playing him for laughs on bbc4 last night
― lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 February 2013 17:14 (thirteen years ago)
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George has uncovered a possible US regime change operation against Netanyahu
― anvil, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 07:54 (three years ago)
He should be all 'Simpsons characters betting on a monkey fight' about this, yeah?
― Toploader on the road, unite and take over (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 08:44 (three years ago)
George Galloway voted Tory in the last Scottish parliament elections and he should never be allowed to forget it.
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 09:56 (three years ago)
The #Russian people are one, indivisible and unbeatable. The sooner western leaders accept that the better it will be for all of us. @MoatsTV https://t.co/r5jNgcGrKv— George Galloway (@georgegalloway) June 26, 2023
George has discovered that the Russian people are one, indivisible and unbeatable., via his source Kim Dotcom
― anvil, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 17:34 (two years ago)
good to see the big man back saluting strength, courage and indefatigability once more
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:03 (two years ago)
2/1 to win in Rochdale
― anvil, Sunday, 11 February 2024 18:15 (two years ago)