A question about climate change/global warming.

With 2.7 percent of the country's population — 8.2 million of 300 million — the average New York City resident contributes less than a third of the emissions generated by a typical American. This is largely due to the popularity of the city's mass transit system, which cuts down on car emissions, officials said.

Moreover, Adler might have heard that Crichton and two full-fledged scientists recently beat some leading global warming scientists in a debate.

Can someone redirect me to the thread about the Bali climate talks, if it exists?

So the talks yielded an agreement on a framework to work on updating the existing framework on climate change in two years. For the next two years, there will be no binding restraints on carbon emissions in the U.S. and China, among others.

In other words, a complete failure.

The talks were notable for the loud booing and hissing directed at the United States delegates during the last day for its "refusal to agree to language requiring rich countries to provide measurable technical assistance and money to poorer countries that take meaningful steps." (link) Props to the delegate in Papua New Guinea who said “We seek your leadership, but if for some reason you are not willing to lead, leave it to the rest of us. Please, get out of the way.”

Wow, I forgot about the massive response to the last post I made there.

So, over the past week or so, I've come to the realization that all of these dudes I'm living with this summer all think climate change is a hoax. Or, rather, they acknowledge but the planet is warming, but then they go into the "the world has been going through cycles of cold and warm for the past million years, before humans even existed" argument. Also, these dudes have made fun of me for playing Zelda: Phantom Hourglass on my DS, they said watching Lost was "gay", although under further questioning they revealed that they had never seen it before. This is hell.

Anyway, I'm just going to post on here whenever one of them says something hilarious about global warming. One of them asked me, "So...seriously, do you really think there's going to be some sort of global warming CRISIS? LIke in within the next 100 years?", and then when I mentioned something about receding minimum summer arctic iceshelf levels they countered with news about glaciers in Greenland getting much bigger.

Also, another has had his mouth open like a goat for the past two weeks. I want to go over there and press his jaw up a little so his teeth clack together.

Also, someone directed me to this earlier as evidence:

http://www.petitionproject.org/gwdatabase/GW_Article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

Apart from the global warming they seem pretty spot on.

lol Z S you might be young and healthy and dating a cutie but you live with MORONS I win

I am old and healthy and dating a cutie and live with a GENIUS

Only two more months. This is only temporary, this is only temporary...

You can make it. Although I think you should kill them.

I feel you dude, I lived in barracks with all manner of jackasses for, like, four months or so

then we got to pick our own roommates and I never dealt with such as you speak of ever again

don't worry ZS, at the end of the movie you get to save their lives and you all become sunshine happy friends together.

and
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine

more extensively
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/10/oregon-institute-of-science-and-malarkey/

Morons are underrated.

It's alright, the sunspots have gone and saved us all!
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-sunspot-mys.html

Uhm I think we should avoid liberal guilt here, or the kind of fear mongering thats been placed on us. People don't want to hear it because they live in a society where market incentives and likewise bullshit as well as 'TURNING OFF A FUCKING LIGHTBULB' etc are used in place of actual long term solutions so they choose to ignore it and submit to an agentic state but I don't think that people are ignorant or apathetic more overwhelmed.
The kind of excesses brought about by capitalism and the state's support of that system are the real culprits. We can't just be promoting lifestylism and individualist action while the real root and cause carries on, anarchism...WOAH-too far?
Anyway my point is; its not really our fault but we should get together, organise etc and tackle the real problem.