Mitchell Hurwitz: "Empty Nest" --> "Golden Girls" --> "The John Larroquette Show" --> "The Ellen Degeneres Show" --> "Arrested Development"!
― Becky Facelift, Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:00 (sixteen years ago)
yeah i know journeymen types often have unlikely arcs -- but i'm saying only 1 of those 2 guys was even a minor player in the actual creation of the series, and it's hard to say how much they contributed to its early greatness, so maybe these guys with somewhat hacky background being put in charge and eventually giving the show a hacky ending was maybe an avoidable mistake.
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:20 (sixteen years ago)
we'll never know.
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Saturday, 29 May 2010 00:27 (sixteen years ago)
Echoing shit up thread, yeah, man when Jacob and MiB was first revealed, so goddamn mad and confused. Who are these aging surfer goombas and why are you making me care about them JJ Abrams! The incredibly sharp disparity in the quality of casting on this show makes me wonder what was going on with that process.
― ╓abies, Saturday, 29 May 2010 01:24 (sixteen years ago)
Actually considering I think it was mostly bad, guys like Michael Emerson or dude who played Sayid must have just been darts in a dark room.
― ╓abies, Saturday, 29 May 2010 01:25 (sixteen years ago)
i'd say the casting was far more often good than it was bad
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Saturday, 29 May 2010 01:37 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah I totally just came to backpedal on that one after looking over a cast list. This last season made me really bitter!
― ╓abies, Saturday, 29 May 2010 01:48 (sixteen years ago)
But srsly can't believe they cast Tom Verlaine to play one of the series biggest and most mysterious charactershttp://www.gazillionmovies.com/Actor/M/Ma/Pictures/mark-pellegrino.jpg
― ╓abies, Saturday, 29 May 2010 01:55 (sixteen years ago)
it's kinda funny how the whole thing was placed in the hands of these 2 guys who, given their resumes, which were full of unremarkable shit like Nash Bridges (OK Cuse created Brisco County, which is kinda badass), people really had no reason to expect great things from. and they did better than anyone could've predicted for a while, but it probably was bound to come crashing down eventually.
Ha, read this thinking you were referring to Jacob and MIB for a minute
― Not the real Village People, Saturday, 29 May 2010 03:31 (sixteen years ago)
haha
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Saturday, 29 May 2010 03:33 (sixteen years ago)
Clearly they were the standins for those two and the whole thing was actually a Pirandello homage.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 May 2010 03:45 (sixteen years ago)
I seriously held out hope until the end that they would deliver one more massive WTF.
"WTF, I wasted six years of my life on this shit" not massive enough for you?
― JimD, Saturday, 29 May 2010 09:49 (sixteen years ago)
Obviously writer fux didn't have this in mind, but nearly a week after I am starting to think the best way to read the finale really was "Don't worry about this shit so much. Life happens and then you die. You'll get no answers, so stop trying."
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 29 May 2010 09:53 (sixteen years ago)
I dunno, I think they at least partly had that in mind, actually. Desmond: "None of this matters."
― dmr, Saturday, 29 May 2010 10:02 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah, to them, though, I really think at best they were just talking about TV shows. Maybe I'm being too mean, but after jerking us around for years and giving us this [see past 1,000 posts] bullshit, I think I'll go ahead and be a bit mean.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 29 May 2010 10:09 (sixteen years ago)
I am starting to think the best way to read the finale really was "Don't worry about this shit so much. Life happens and then you die. You'll get no answers, so stop trying."
Huh... maybe there really IS something to this, a'la "A Serious Man." Hadn't even crossed my mind.
― Becky Facelift, Saturday, 29 May 2010 10:43 (sixteen years ago)
i don't know if anything would have worked. first mistake was casting two blase beach bums to be your EPIC GREEK TRAGEDY CLASH OF THE TITANS GOOD AND EVIL FATE OF MANKIND protagonists. two dudes hangin' on the beach waiting for the perfect wave. zzzzzzzzzzz....
i know. though i do like the idea of Bodhi (from "point break") being some kind of spiritual/symbolic avatar.
― Aspergers Makes My Pee Smell Funny (Eisbaer), Saturday, 29 May 2010 12:23 (sixteen years ago)
This is pretty coolhttp://kotaku.com/5550627/if-lucasarts-had-made-a-lost-gamein-1987
― Number None, Saturday, 29 May 2010 13:38 (sixteen years ago)
that's hilarious
― AGGGGGROOOOOO CRAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG (reddening), Saturday, 29 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)
Can't remember if these were posted before, but
http://i48.tinypic.com/2cr5c0p.pnghttp://i47.tinypic.com/wv8qat.pnghttp://i47.tinypic.com/2gxqy6q.jpghttp://i47.tinypic.com/5tryg1.jpghttp://i46.tinypic.com/2v19gmq.jpg
― fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Saturday, 29 May 2010 22:39 (sixteen years ago)
those are great.
well I read the vozzek recap but it was sadly about 2/3 fanboy BS. I did get some interesting things to chew on, though.
the light was dimmed when they first went in, but was restored to full strength after Jack's dubious Jesus imitation.
the alt line is something special, not necessarily purgatory in the sense of "for everybody" but in a very specific Lost-sense relating apparently to the nuke (??? whatever). It's worth rewatching various appearances by "dead" people in past seasons with the view that they were visitors from the alt, e.g. Charlie visiting Hurley in the mental hospital, Ana Lucia pulling Hurley over, etc.
Desmond's "special" Island-tie to the alt-world (where enlightenment equals knowledge of both timelines) explains his flashes/premonitions about Charlie and how he saved Charlie's life several times in the "regular" timeline.
certain other folks (who died during the regular tineline) may have been (gag) "enlightened" the whole time in the alt, which explains some of their odd mannerisms and dialogue: Keamy, Minkowsky (as the limo driver), Boone on the plane, etc.
also interesting thoughts about the old version of Hawking as being purely an alt manifestation, I guess I'll quote:
It's chilling to think that perhaps Hawking has been here all along; even when we saw her in the ring shop or the Looking Glass station, she was just as enlightened as she is now. Remember that her two appearances also took place within off-island realms: one during Desmond's failsafe flashback, and the other in the Oceanic Six world. She could easily have been reaching back to those places from the ALT/Purgatory universe, where we now know that time means very, very little.
not saying this gets the writers off the hook but still...
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Saturday, 29 May 2010 23:40 (sixteen years ago)
That's at least kind of interesting.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 30 May 2010 05:27 (sixteen years ago)
this really hits the mark: http://nymag.com/arts/tv/reviews/66293/
― Christina NAGLera (some dude), Sunday, 30 May 2010 22:53 (sixteen years ago)
No wonder it was touching: It was grief therapy directed at us as fans.
good article
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:02 (sixteen years ago)
That article annoyed me. I was disappointed with (a few) aspects of the finale but don't feel betrayed or tricked or condescended to. That's kind of silly.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 31 May 2010 00:45 (sixteen years ago)
I definitely feel condescended to... oh wait is that a Chuck E Cheese over there?
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Monday, 31 May 2010 00:52 (sixteen years ago)
I think it's absolutely OTM. I mean, how can you not feel condescended to by the whole "OH LOOK, A CHUCK E CHEESE" thing?
lol xp
― JimD, Monday, 31 May 2010 01:00 (sixteen years ago)
thought the article was great. some of the more articulated, on point criticisms of the finale/series i've seen yet
― underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Monday, 31 May 2010 01:06 (sixteen years ago)
gonna be a little bummed out next time i see a chuck e. cheese i bet
― underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Monday, 31 May 2010 01:07 (sixteen years ago)
I couldn't agree more with that article. And it pointed me towards the fine brothers videos, some of which had me laughing out loud. Walt!!!!!! Korean Korean!!!!
― Jacob Sanders, Monday, 31 May 2010 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
great article
― I see what this is (Local Garda), Monday, 31 May 2010 15:51 (sixteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/2OXLq.gif
― gbx, Monday, 31 May 2010 16:01 (sixteen years ago)
Hahahahahaha
― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Monday, 31 May 2010 19:32 (sixteen years ago)
never tire of that one.
― Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Monday, 31 May 2010 20:45 (sixteen years ago)
PPL!!! my wife Karen has a Lost-related gag cartoon in this week's New Yorker. I YAM SO PROUDED ^_^
http://www.cartoonbank.com/2010/Will-you-shut-up-about-Lost-already/invt/135278
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 00:56 (sixteen years ago)
Your wife could be veeeeeeery useful on this thread:
The "Let's Win the New Yorker Caption Contest" Poll: Week 1
― fuck it we're going to Applebee's® (Z S), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 00:58 (sixteen years ago)
Wow, that's awesome! Congrats!
― Becky Facelift, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 01:07 (sixteen years ago)
hahaha!!!
amazing.
dude.
that's like.
bucket list.
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 01:16 (sixteen years ago)
It's her third NYer gag printed and sixth one sold. But this time is special bcuz Michael Emerson might see it...
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 02:23 (sixteen years ago)
That's awesome! Also, Karen OTM.
― sinister chemical wisdom (Jenny), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 02:34 (sixteen years ago)
dang jon lewis your wife rules
― max, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 03:33 (sixteen years ago)
She really does.
How do i get darkufo or whatever to post a link to her cartoon?
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:00 (sixteen years ago)
awesome! at first i thought you meant she was a caption contest winner, but this is whole 'nother level awesome. i was total newyorker cartoonist fanboy as a kid.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:30 (sixteen years ago)
When she goes in to pitch the magaizine new pieces, she has lunch afterward with Sam Gross and all the other old grouchy NYC/Long Island NYer cartoonists. So cool.
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 16:49 (sixteen years ago)
i met sam gross once. he got cigar ashes in the book i asked him to sign. knew some of the people who lived in connecticut. my brother would hang with them. roz. ziegler. others. good folks.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 21:01 (sixteen years ago)
I rly need to go with her one of these times so I can meet all those dudes. (Roz does not come in to pitch in person anymore apparently). Does Dan Bunny draw?
― it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a crane shot to 'NOOOOOO' (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 21:03 (sixteen years ago)
he does draw, but they dug him cuz he's crazy. jack z. did the cover of bunnybrains album on matador. always thought far side dude got his whole act from jack z. well, jack z. and kliban.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 21:42 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah esp Kliban. As famous as 'Cat' is, those other Kliban books warped and guided my brain severely when I was like 8 years old.
― Yes! Yes! Hammerheads! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 21:45 (sixteen years ago)
@DamonLinderlof I found the ending of Isner/Mahut satisfying, but wish they had answered more questions. about 20 hours ago via web
prick
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:39 (sixteen years ago)
hahahaha, A++++ Linderlof
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Friday, 25 June 2010 12:48 (sixteen years ago)