Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I guess in this case there's an actual cliff!

If they would have ended it with MIB escaping and beginning to wreak havoc on the rest of the world I would have been fine with that.
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Yes. Unequivocally. An ambiguously cliffhangery ending would've been vastly preferable to me.

enh ... I'd rather it at least partly wrap up, I just thought the way it wrapped was lame

would've been stoked for wtf cliffhanger

I seriously held out hope until the end that they would deliver one more massive WTF. Oh well.

I should've specified that I would've appreciated an ambiguous ending to the ending we got, not necessarily to the theoretical well-resolved ending that we didn't get.

Like I said somewhere above, I almost prefer to think of the season 5 end as the end of the series at this point, knowing how little else was resolved to my own personal satisfaction over the course of s6.

If MIB escaped, I'd have ended it with him on another beach lounging, sipping girly drinks. Ben is in the chair next to him going "couldn't you have done this at the old island?"
and MIB just shrugs.

W H A T T H E Y D I E D F O R

I would have totally loved if it ended with MIB escaping and it having basically no effect on the outside world

I almost prefer to think of the season 5 end as the end of the series

Well, it's the only episode ever of the show where the title card at the end was on a white background instead of black. Juliet detonating a hydrogen bomb with a rock after she'd fallen about 75 feet into a hole and the very last spoken line of the show being "Come on, you son of a bitch" (as an ode to James/Sawyer, her true love) is a much better finale, even if it leaves every question ever completely unresolved.

I think if you followed up that with selected IRL island scenes from S6 plus the Richard and Smokey episodes and the IRL half of the finale, you'd have a dece thing.

would really prefer to not have the smokey ep

i don't know if anything would have worked. first mistake was casting two blase beach bums to be your EPIC GREEK TRAGEDY CLASH OF THE TITANS GOOD AND EVIL FATE OF MANKIND protagonists. two dudes hangin' on the beach waiting for the perfect wave. zzzzzzzzzzz....

i mean you literally had to have another actor play one of them to make things interesting.

I hate jacob

i hate that fucking light

Ending in a nuke would have been very "Sledgehammer!" of them.

I have no doubt ABC would have Ok'd another season at least. It's not like "Lost" was pushed under the bus. The dudes just wanted to call it a day, I think, and no doubt are convinced they did it in the coolest and most satisfying way possible.

not watching their next show...

I'll watch it if they work with Michael Emerson again.

it's kinda funny how the whole thing was placed in the hands of these 2 guys who, given their resumes, which were full of unremarkable shit like Nash Bridges (OK Cuse created Brisco County, which is kinda badass), people really had no reason to expect great things from. and they did better than anyone could've predicted for a while, but it probably was bound to come crashing down eventually.

but then i've never totally understood the whole WOAH IT'S JJ ABRAMS thing and am not sure it would've gone so much better with him at the wheel the whole time either.

a lot of people who create interesting stuff often labour on un-interesting stuff for a while first. that's the nature of the tv biz.

i don't think one of those dudes working on nash bridges meant lost was doomed

Mitchell Hurwitz: "Empty Nest" --> "Golden Girls" --> "The John Larroquette Show" --> "The Ellen Degeneres Show" --> "Arrested Development"!

yeah i know journeymen types often have unlikely arcs -- but i'm saying only 1 of those 2 guys was even a minor player in the actual creation of the series, and it's hard to say how much they contributed to its early greatness, so maybe these guys with somewhat hacky background being put in charge and eventually giving the show a hacky ending was maybe an avoidable mistake.

we'll never know.

Echoing shit up thread, yeah, man when Jacob and MiB was first revealed, so goddamn mad and confused. Who are these aging surfer goombas and why are you making me care about them JJ Abrams! The incredibly sharp disparity in the quality of casting on this show makes me wonder what was going on with that process.

Actually considering I think it was mostly bad, guys like Michael Emerson or dude who played Sayid must have just been darts in a dark room.

i'd say the casting was far more often good than it was bad

Yeah I totally just came to backpedal on that one after looking over a cast list. This last season made me really bitter!

But srsly can't believe they cast Tom Verlaine to play one of the series biggest and most mysterious characters
http://www.gazillionmovies.com/Actor/M/Ma/Pictures/mark-pellegrino.jpg

it's kinda funny how the whole thing was placed in the hands of these 2 guys who, given their resumes, which were full of unremarkable shit like Nash Bridges (OK Cuse created Brisco County, which is kinda badass), people really had no reason to expect great things from. and they did better than anyone could've predicted for a while, but it probably was bound to come crashing down eventually.

Ha, read this thinking you were referring to Jacob and MIB for a minute

haha

Clearly they were the standins for those two and the whole thing was actually a Pirandello homage.

I seriously held out hope until the end that they would deliver one more massive WTF.

"WTF, I wasted six years of my life on this shit" not massive enough for you?

Obviously writer fux didn't have this in mind, but nearly a week after I am starting to think the best way to read the finale really was "Don't worry about this shit so much. Life happens and then you die. You'll get no answers, so stop trying."

I dunno, I think they at least partly had that in mind, actually. Desmond: "None of this matters."

Yeah, to them, though, I really think at best they were just talking about TV shows. Maybe I'm being too mean, but after jerking us around for years and giving us this [see past 1,000 posts] bullshit, I think I'll go ahead and be a bit mean.

I am starting to think the best way to read the finale really was "Don't worry about this shit so much. Life happens and then you die. You'll get no answers, so stop trying."

Huh... maybe there really IS something to this, a'la "A Serious Man." Hadn't even crossed my mind.

i don't know if anything would have worked. first mistake was casting two blase beach bums to be your EPIC GREEK TRAGEDY CLASH OF THE TITANS GOOD AND EVIL FATE OF MANKIND protagonists. two dudes hangin' on the beach waiting for the perfect wave. zzzzzzzzzzz....

i know. though i do like the idea of Bodhi (from "point break") being some kind of spiritual/symbolic avatar.

This is pretty cool
http://kotaku.com/5550627/if-lucasarts-had-made-a-lost-gamein-1987

that's hilarious

Can't remember if these were posted before, but

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those are great.

well I read the vozzek recap but it was sadly about 2/3 fanboy BS. I did get some interesting things to chew on, though.

the light was dimmed when they first went in, but was restored to full strength after Jack's dubious Jesus imitation.

the alt line is something special, not necessarily purgatory in the sense of "for everybody" but in a very specific Lost-sense relating apparently to the nuke (??? whatever). It's worth rewatching various appearances by "dead" people in past seasons with the view that they were visitors from the alt, e.g. Charlie visiting Hurley in the mental hospital, Ana Lucia pulling Hurley over, etc.

Desmond's "special" Island-tie to the alt-world (where enlightenment equals knowledge of both timelines) explains his flashes/premonitions about Charlie and how he saved Charlie's life several times in the "regular" timeline.

certain other folks (who died during the regular tineline) may have been (gag) "enlightened" the whole time in the alt, which explains some of their odd mannerisms and dialogue: Keamy, Minkowsky (as the limo driver), Boone on the plane, etc.

also interesting thoughts about the old version of Hawking as being purely an alt manifestation, I guess I'll quote:

It's chilling to think that perhaps Hawking has been here all along; even when we saw her in the ring shop or the Looking Glass station, she was just as enlightened as she is now. Remember that her two appearances also took place within off-island realms: one during Desmond's failsafe flashback, and the other in the Oceanic Six world. She could easily have been reaching back to those places from the ALT/Purgatory universe, where we now know that time means very, very little.

not saying this gets the writers off the hook but still...

That's at least kind of interesting.

this really hits the mark: http://nymag.com/arts/tv/reviews/66293/

No wonder it was touching: It was grief therapy directed at us as fans.

good article

That article annoyed me. I was disappointed with (a few) aspects of the finale but don't feel betrayed or tricked or condescended to. That's kind of silly.

I definitely feel condescended to... oh wait is that a Chuck E Cheese over there?

I think it's absolutely OTM. I mean, how can you not feel condescended to by the whole "OH LOOK, A CHUCK E CHEESE" thing?

lol xp