Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

When did Alias and Felicity go of the rails in their respective series runs?

Didn't watch Felicity, but Alias went off the rails at the beginning of S3. The first two seasons are still my idea of perfect television.

alias got all mystical rambaldi and shit... that was its downfall. shoulda just been a spy show.

it was way campy

i kind of liked the chutzpah of doing, like, VIENNA, TAIPEI, MOSCOW, stock footage, three times each ep

it was very lost in the way it set up these intriguing mysteries and totally failed to follow through with anything interesting

like the season that started 2 years in the future and she'd lost her memory

like 3 episodes later it was back to business as usual

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xYp0J5aT_M

I only watched the first season of Felicity, but a read a description of its final season that involved time travel and magic. It makes me fearful of Fringe's future seasons.

tell me more

do i need to watch s1 first?

― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:59 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um, its definitely lighter than lost, and i dont care too much about the central mystery(s), which are not really that mysterious anyway. & one reason i like it is that i came back to it w/ pretty low expectations.

but its a very good x-files rip, excellent chemistry between the three leads, and the guy who plays walter is great. good mix of monster-of-the-week and larger-arc episodes (so nice to have a show where episodes that don't tie into the big picture are a drag). way more sci-fi than lost. i dont really ever watch it glued to the set on thursdays the way i did with lost but i catch it every week and its always enjoyable.

oh, and, i dont think you really need to watch s1 if you read a summary, or even just go w/ the short playlist up there--i watched the first half of s1 and then skipped the second half and jumped in to s2, and it didnt matter, though i wish id watched the finale of s1 cause it had one of those trademark jj abrams gamechanger finale moments

but its a very good x-files rip, excellent chemistry between the three leads, and the guy who plays walter is great. good mix of monster-of-the-week and larger-arc episodes (so nice to have a show where episodes that don't tie into the big picture are a drag). way more sci-fi than lost. i dont really ever watch it glued to the set on thursdays the way i did with lost but i catch it every week and its always enjoyable.

― max, Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:10 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

are a drag or aren't a drag?

excellent chemistry between the three leads

seriously? the Murdoch niece was the reason i tuned out after 2 episodes, can't handle 1 of only 3 major characters being total shit.

That note supposedly from one of the writers/Bad Robot guys is so obviously bogus!

ARENT a drag

seriously? the Murdoch niece was the reason i tuned out after 2 episodes, can't handle 1 of only 3 major characters being total shit.

― some dude, Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:32 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no accounting for taste i guess? shes good in a gillian anderson way. dunno what you dislike abt her.

BTW I guess Jack being married to and producing a child with Juliet wasn't quite enough of a memory jogger to get him to heaven.

was gonna say "she wasn't his soulmate, Kate was" but that would mean Jack was also soulmates w/ a coffin and Locke's toe

and kate's soulmate...

was gonna say "she wasn't his soulmate, Kate was" but that would mean Jack was also soulmates w/ a coffin and Locke's toe

I LOLed.

in the 'real' timeline kate was made to feel that claire was AN INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT PERSON IN HER LIFE, which i never understood but it's true. when jack bids her adieu atop the cliff, he says she needs to go and help claire get home

but um yeah so in one of the early alt eps there's nothing to jog either's memory i guess

coz yah soulmates. because obviously there's only one person in the whole cosmos who's going to mean a thing to you.

but its a very good x-files rip, excellent chemistry between the three leads, and the guy who plays walter is great. good mix of monster-of-the-week and larger-arc episodes (so nice to have a show where episodes that don't tie into the big picture aren't a drag).

TBH what I loved abt X Files was the monster-of-the-week done-in-ones. I just love that form and wish it were still more common. More often than not when X-F played to the big arc it was just annoying.

okay, its official, i don't hate the ending anymore. maria couldn't watch the finale, so she watched it last night on the computer and i was in bed listening and it made me like all the characters again and made me sad. it was like listening to a very strange radio play. i dunno, i still kinda hate it a little, but listening last night did remind me why i liked the show in the first place.

http://img2.pict.com/d8/f3/2c/3555269/0/lost.gif

haha, best one yet.

the only mystery of LOST that matters to me is where these awesome gifs come from.

According to Richard Alpert, a gif is bestowed on everyone who is touched by Jacob.

The whole thing was bobbins.

http://www.collider.com/2010/05/26/lost-epilogue-12-14-minutes-michael-emerson-jorge-reyes/

annoying

I'm glad I avoided this thread for S6, since I actually enjoyed both the season and finale. The Christian zombie scene was pretty lame for obvious reasons, but the rest of the finale made me bawl and shriek in all the right spaces so job well done.

ok that collider thing you linked to is fucking infuriating, esp when i reread it and realized you only get it if you buy the complete series on DVD. what a blatant dick move (on the plus side, i am sure that it will be unsatisfying and will suck).

eh it'll be on youtube etc. as soon as it hits DVD, who cares? it'd be a rip off if they expected people to shell out money for the big DVD box and there WASN'T some pretty nice bonuses. anyway it sounds like they shot a chapter/scene for the finale that they just weren't able to fit without making the episode a full 3 hours, might as well clip out something relatively standalone that'll be of interest to people and make it a way to sell DVDs.

my issue is more that cuse and lindhof (err i think) said that after the last ep they'd be dunzo

but actually there is more 'mythology' to pay out coz they were too busy showing us how in purgatory ben actually learned to be a mensch, only not that much coz he still has some issues blah blah blah

I only watched the first season of Felicity, but a read a description of its final season that involved time travel and magic. It makes me fearful of Fringe's future seasons

This is when Felicity went off the rails. The whole Nole/Ben thing was the big deal but they added the death of the pink power ranger, or did the wiccan girl die? Anyway Felicity had this "what if I didn't do this one thing" time travel sequence for an entire season which was incredibly frustrating and then the show ended. The last episode iirc was: hey we're in college (med school) and I think my boyfriend is cheating on me, as usual! Lame.

Lost finale was jerkin the emotional chains but wasn't really substantial enough. The best series finale ever was 6 feet under. I cried so hard when I watched that.

me too.

that collider link calls him jorge reyes in the url, like reality and alternate reality are MERGING

my issue is more that cuse and lindhof (err i think) said that after the last ep they'd be dunzo

but actually there is more 'mythology' to pay out coz they were too busy showing us how in purgatory ben actually learned to be a mensch, only not that much coz he still has some issues blah blah blah

― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:47 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, like i said, i'm betting it's 90% likely those 12 minutes were written/filmed as part of the episode, which obviously ran really long as it is, and just got cut out because it wasn't essential to the story, but is still theoretically interesting enough to show to fans somehow.

btw I get the feeling that, esp in the last season, an actual episode of Lost became not that much more to 'fans' (ie us) than "let's see what the writers have given us" rather than a real world (ie we were asking what Darlton would do, rather than would Jack etc would do) so the finale kind of lost its impact compared to if it had been a different show. I don't think I'm articulating this very well, but I'm not sure if it was the nature of that kind of TV show or whether the writers popping up everywhere and promising what they were going to 'give us' was the major factor. Or maybe it just becomes like that when you dissect a show to the extent this thread has...

The best series finale ever was 6 feet under. I cried so hard when I watched that.

I had to give up HBO sometime early on in the 4th season, so I've never gotten to the end of 6FU. I've been meaning to for years, but I may have to actually do it now because I want to see something with a good finale.

yeah, 6FU had an emotional "about the characters" finale that totes worked.

an actual episode of Lost became not that much more to 'fans' (ie us) than "let's see what the writers have given us"

yeah i'll cop to this. it wasn't helped by the fact that characters became increasingly cardboard and rote as time went on: see sun and jin wandering blandly around for fourteen episodes before jumping up like twenty emotional pitches to "tragic death." but yeah i was predisposed not to want to just kick back and take an emotional ride when they were wasting valuable plot time on dogen/lennon/temple shit.

a lot of the finale elements really smack of "oh well we ran out of time to come up with anything better." for all this talk of "for the characters," i have a really incomplete sense of what the people on the escaping plane felt. making claire the next crazy island lady never really turned into anything. i guess miles has nikki and paolo's diamonds so that's nice for him.

damn i forgot about that -- i hope miles lived out his days being awesome and rich and never had to go hug those dorks in a church

but yeah the man behind the curtain really swallowed the show-as-show toward the end unfortunately. up to a certain point those guys doing podcasts and answering questions was refreshing but eventually it sucked away a lot of your ability to engage in the narrative as an actual story and not the machinations of some high profile behind the scenes dudes.

lived out his days being awesome and rich and never had to go hug those dorks in a church

put this on my tombstone, plz

i had the same attitude about the Six Feet Under finale that a lot of people are copping about Lost right now -- never got really into it, tuned back in for the last couple episodes and was like 'lol this shit blows, i feel bad for people that care about these characters' but maybe context is everything

I thought it was great

and I wasn't even that into the last couple seasons of 6 Feet

never got really into it, tuned back in for the last couple episodes and was like 'lol this shit blows, i feel bad for people that care about these characters

Yeah this was exactly how I felt about 6FU too.

Best finale is The Shield, for sure.

So according to Jorge Garcia, in that final Jack/Locke fight O'Quinn forgot to swap the real knife for the fake one and stabbed Fox with it. He had a kevlar pad on, but had only grudgingly been talked into wearing it.

"forgot"

man that wd have been so fucking metal, if fox actually got stabbed

THAT would have made for a rad finale