"Now I'm in charge...heheh."
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)
Jones first learned of Haggard's firing in a telephone interview with The Denver Post.
"I hadn't heard," he said. "I'm sad. I didn't want to ruin his life or his family's life."
"I just said all that stuff because we were bros!"
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)
― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)
homosexuals anonymous?
or does he do some serious soul searching, embrace his sexuality, and start a new movement within the church, changing the face of religion in america?
naaaaahhhh....
― researching ur life (grady), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)
― researching ur life (grady), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)
Haha dream on. I mean he might be one of those ex-ex-gays at some point, but those guys aren't changing the face of anything.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)
― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)
All he wanted to do was create his very own November suprise.
― researching ur life (grady), Sunday, 5 November 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)
I don't see how that's even an issue. This guy has made a profession out of (in part) demonising homosexuality, so he is a huge hypocrite. It is he who has dragged his family and church into the issue through his own hypocrisy. Jones has no responsibility to protect him from himself.
― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)
and also the movement he represents and of which he has been a high-profile standard-bearer has been dragging the whole country through a nasty fight over civil rights in which they are -- by my judgment, and probably history's -- entirely and viciously in the wrong. he's a public figure whose power is partly based on encouraging bigotry and intolerance, so while i can have sympathy for him as an obviously deeply confused man, i can't feel bad about his loss of stature and authority. he was actively using it for bad ends.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (Molly Jones), Sunday, 5 November 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)
plus, apparently, their wives are schlubs.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 5 November 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)
I thought exactly the reverse - that it appeared Haggard was barely restraining himself from violence. Dawkins was upset that his position was being misrepresented, but Ted had a look in his eye and tremble in his face that I associate with "get ready to rumble."
― It's the lazy and immoral way to become super hip. (Austin, Still), Sunday, 5 November 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)
i would love if haggard took his NEA connections and worked for soul force, but i doubt its going to happen
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)
― hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 5 November 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 5 November 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 5 November 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 5 November 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 5 November 2006 08:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 5 November 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 5 November 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)
― J (Jay), Sunday, 5 November 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)
― David Kennedy (funny ringtones), Sunday, 5 November 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 5 November 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)
Sooo OTM.
After reading that Harper's piece last year (incidentally, Jeff Sharlet is the best investigative journalist working today; seek everything he's done), I was so frustrated thinking I'd never really hear anything once any of these obvious maniacs fell hard... so this is hugely satisfying. You feel bad for his wife and family, of course, but fucking hell.
― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Sunday, 5 November 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)
― i am not a nugget (stevie), Sunday, 5 November 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)
Now Satan has Wal-Mart in his line of fire!
This legacy of faith and love for Jesus Christ by Mr. Walton is being trashed before our very eyes!
After being lambasted for years by the anti-family, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, radical environmental left, Wal-Mart has finally succumbed to this constant harassment and blackmail. She has now chosen a policy of appeasement to assuage all of the false accusations leveled against her in hopes that the devil will somehow stop being so mean. It is sad to say that Wal-Mart has joined the The National Gay & Lesbian, Chamber of Commerce.
The NGCC called Wal-Mart's action "part of the company's ongoing commitment to advancing diversity (homosexuality) among all of its associate, supplier and customer bases."
The NGCC desires that the world's largest retailer would also become the world's largest promoter of homosexual sodomy!
Wal-Mart desperately needs our help! There is something that we can do. It requires that we get out of the closet and run toward the roar!
WE MUST SAVE WAL-MART!
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)
― hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)
― hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)
Hi,
I am one of those people who is no longer shopping at Wal-Mart, but as I talk with other Christians I often get the response that they're going to continue shopping at Wal-Mart because probably all of the other stores we would shop at in place of Wal-Mart are also doing sinful things and/or supporting gay and lesbian groups etc. What is your response to this? Do you know if Kmart supports gays and lesbians? Do you have a list of businesses which Christians can support in good conscience?
I believe if I can address this issue I could be more effective in encouraging people not to support Wal-Mart.
Thank you,
Eileen K.
Hi Eileen,
Why Wal-Mart? It's very true that many other stores have also been bullied into supporting gay issues and have engaged in other evils, but Wal-Mart is special. It is the single largest private employer in America with 1.3 million employees. It is the largest retailer and the largest privately-owned retailer in America , with 127 million weekly customers. It boasts a $300 BILLION a year business . Wal-Mart is the biggest in everything! And it started out under Sam Walton as a godly, family-friendly operation. If we can fight and win at Wal-Mart, we'll be sending a strong message to other companies that they too need the support of American families to succeed and they won't get it by stomping on our values and encouraging and promoting those things that God abhors.
I hope this helps!
God bless your efforts for His kingdom.
Brenda/OSA
― Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)
But in a news conference after the service, the head of the oversight board, Pastor Larry Stockstill of Baton Rouge, La., told reporters that Haggard denied engaging in homosexual acts or being gay. Stockstill said Haggard's admission that he received a massage from a gay man was enough grounds for the board to remove him.
At the same time, Stockstill said the board found discrepancies in Haggard's account. He did not go into detail.
"(Haggard) is not in touch with truth and reality, and he readily admitted that," Stockstill said.
A separate pastoral board, still being formed, will work further with Haggard to explore his sexual issues in more depth, Stockstill said.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 5 November 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)
― researching ur life (grady), Sunday, 5 November 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)
well, off to rehab w/ mark foley for him, then
― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 5 November 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)
After being lambasted for years by the anti-family, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, radical environmental left, Wal-Mart has finally succumbed to this constant harassment and blackmail. She has now chosen a policy of appeasement to assuage all of the false accusations leveled against her in hopes that the devil will somehow stop being so mean.
― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 6 November 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 6 November 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)
"is it backwards day?"
"yes. no. i mean, yes. i mean--"
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 6 November 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)
― BrianB (BrianB), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)
Phrase it like that, and you'd have to remove half of anyone who's ever been to a day spa.
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
Additional weirdness: surely acknowledging the sin, evil, and temptation in the heart of man is appropriately religious already? INXS are good Calvinists, no reason to edit their work.
― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 6 November 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)