Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

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Because you were wondering:

You know those Oceanic 815 plane crash images that ran after Jack's (Matthew Fox) eye closed and the "Lost" logo appeared on our TV screens? Some "Lost" fans and TV critics have wondered if they were a last Easter egg from the producers, a clue meant to lead us to conclude that no one survived Oceanic 815's crash landing — and therefore everything we've seen over the last six years never really happened.

Well, ABC wants to clear the air: Those photographs were not part of the "Lost" story at all. The network added them to soften the transition from the moving ending of the series to the 11 p.m. news and never considered that it would confuse viewers about the actual ending of the show.

"The images shown during the end credits of the 'Lost' finale, which included shots of Oceanic 815 on a deserted beach, were not part of the final story but were a visual aid to allow the viewer to decompress before heading into the news," an ABC spokesperson wrote in an e-mail Tuesday.

That means, Losties, that we were not supposed to think that Christian Shepherd (John Terry) is a liar. What Christian told his son, when they were reunited at the church, should serve as guidance for our interpretation of the series' ending.

So let's review: Christian told Jack that he was dead and everyone else in the church was too — some had died before Jack, as we already knew, and some died long after. The sideways flashes then were a step in everyone's after-lives, a way to reconnect before moving on permanently. While there still may be unanswered questions related to that religious and spiritual conclusion to the "Lost" story, the photographs were really just a nostalgic, transitional touch added by ABC executives — and not executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse.

Love or hate it, that's the final answer.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:28 (sixteen years ago)

I never thought I'd like meddling execs version better.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder what happens to people who are murdered in the purgatory world (Keamy).

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

:( Triple A

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder what happens to people who are murdered in the purgatory world (Keamy).

double secret purgatory

dmr, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

I read some dude's recap of the finale and there was a bit mentioned which seemed interesting and presumably deliberate-- when we came into view of the rpg save point, it was blatantly much less bright than when we first saw it in the Jacob/MiB origin story.

Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:40 (sixteen years ago)

^^^ oh I didn't mean ILX user 'some dude', just y'know, some dude.

Is it far? Is it far? Is it far? (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:41 (sixteen years ago)

still wanna know why jacob let dharma people drill into the earth where majik energy was. that wasn't a threat to the island?

scott seward, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

i know, i know, nothing matters now. but still...

scott seward, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

Apologies if this was already linked/torn apart upthread, but this is supposedly a response to fans from one of the Bad Robot/Lost staff about the show and its ending: http://is.gd/cp6YT

I wasn't mad about it like most of the people in this thread, so whatever. I thought the part about the final scenes of the show being written in 2004 was interesting, though, and explains why it kind of seemed incongruous when considering how the show evolved over time.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:48 (sixteen years ago)

xp he "sent" daniel back to stop them.
who knows.

Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:51 (sixteen years ago)

I wasn't mad about it like most of the people in this thread, so whatever. I thought the part about the final scenes of the show being written in 2004 was interesting, though, and explains why it kind of seemed incongruous when considering how the show evolved over time.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:48 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i bet u anything that the "final scene" they knew would happen was just the jack-closing-his-eye shot.

NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:54 (sixteen years ago)

yes

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:56 (sixteen years ago)

Shouldn't a professional writer be able to spell words.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:59 (sixteen years ago)

Naw, I actually kind of buy that J.J. set up the premise that they would all crash on the island and would eventually meet in the afterlife because of what they ended up meaning to each other over the course of the show. That seems reasonable. But then he left it up to "Darlton" to get from A to B as bizarrely as possible.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:00 (sixteen years ago)

You imagine he'd also know that Juliet wasn't in the show, around, say, 2004. But whatever.

winnebago taco, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/lost-writers-talk-about-series-finale.html

at 2.09, FFS! They say the cut on Jack's neck in s6 premiere was a really important clue to what happens in the finale. What, Jack gets an injury of some sort? We already know it's an "alt" timeline. "Fortunately no-one figured it out!!!!"

Not the real Village People, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:01 (sixteen years ago)

In the writers' room:

http://avionod.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/then-a-miracle-happens.gif?w=300&h=364

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

But, yes, I'm willing to concede that perhaps the gist of the last 10 minutes was already in the can, back in the day.

winnebago taco, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:02 (sixteen years ago)

Libby isn't in season 1 either.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:04 (sixteen years ago)

Neither are Desmond and Penny.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not saying the specifics and participants were plotted to the last detail, but the "afterlife meetup" was probably J.J.'s idea from the beginning.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:05 (sixteen years ago)

I know *you're* not saying that, but the Bad Robot guy is.

jaymc, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:07 (sixteen years ago)

omg did Johnny Fever write for the show.

Shame on you.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:08 (sixteen years ago)

I WISH. MiB would've been redeemed rather than pushed off a cliff to a lame death.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

I think I just realized that Desmond's real purpose in s6 was to get the viewer to let go and realize that nothing mattered. "It's just a show, brotha. Don't bother looking for sense and resolution where there's none to be found. Let go."

And then the last episode was him hitting us with his car.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

lol

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

HA!!!

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 01:23 (sixteen years ago)

it really is mind-boggling how positive the user ratings are for the episode on the avclub, darkufo, etc.

every night i tell myself i am the custos, i am the wind. (some dude), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, but if you think about the fact that there were Lost message boards that earnestly discussed who Kate would choose, rather than making bird-flinging jokez, you might understand the superfan reactions.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:03 (sixteen years ago)

at this point i am genuinely wondering about the horse

max, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

was it smokey?

max, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:08 (sixteen years ago)

do you think Island Magic allows hurley to talk to animals, if so he could go find that bird and personally ask it why it said his name.

wtf why are there vampires in forever 21 (reddening), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:19 (sixteen years ago)

I'm kind of annoyed that this Bad Robot dude is saying that MIB was behind the Dharma purge. I liked it much better when I thought that Jacob was going Mother on these drilling hippies.

President Keyes, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

I WISH. MiB would've been redeemed rather than pushed off a cliff to a lame death.

Not that I'm apologizing for the choice, but it's meant to mirror/reference/whatever Locke getting pushed out of the window by his dad, eh?

scottpl, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:25 (sixteen years ago)

I still wonder about the magic box.

Frank Viola (╓abies), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:30 (sixteen years ago)

That was one of my favorite bits that went nowhere

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 02:35 (sixteen years ago)

it really is mind-boggling how positive the user ratings are for the episode on the avclub, darkufo, etc.

Yeah? I was thinking that I was pleased that so many people seemed to be unsatisfied with, or at least had serious reservations about the finale (NYT, Slate, Sepinwall, etc.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:08 (sixteen years ago)

The Slate TV club, e.g., featured three commentators, two of whom came into Season 6 feeling sort of skeptical about the direction the show was taking and the third who was a pretty big apologist. After the finale, however, the apologist was just like, "Yeah, that pretty much sucked."

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:10 (sixteen years ago)

when we came into view of the rpg save point, it was blatantly much less bright than when we first saw it in the Jacob/MiB origin story.

ya know I noticed this as well, even said something at the time.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:58 (sixteen years ago)

yeah jaymc, the overall negative chatter about the episode is exactly why i'm amazed that avclub readers give it a B+ on average and the darkufo ratings break down as:

Awesome 63.4% (29,951 votes)
Great 12.6% (5,959 votes)
OK 10.2% (4,828 votes)
Poor 5.5% (2,586 votes)
Awful 8.2% (3,889 votes)

every night i tell myself i am the custos, i am the wind. (some dude), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:19 (sixteen years ago)

the comments on the post i wrote were like 2:1 positive about the dumb thing. but i got an email that said 'GURL YES'

max, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:27 (sixteen years ago)

Maybe people are still in denial. Or haven't stopped to really think about it yet. I think the episode offers a lot of immediate pleasures, and so for some people they may have to step back a bit to realize how shitty certain parts of it were. Me, I'm not really incensed at the finale itself, but I think the finale is absolutely endemic of the squandered potential of this season (and maybe the last couple).

jaymc, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:35 (sixteen years ago)

It's too bad Juliet became popular enough that Elizabeth Mitchell spun off into V. Keeping her around for S6 would've facilitated an ending in which the whole show was just something Sawyer was thinking about while the two of them were having sex.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:37 (sixteen years ago)

BTW I guess Jack being married to and producing a child with Juliet wasn't quite enough of a memory jogger to get him to heaven.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:40 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, the real loser in all this is David Shepard, who seemed like a really nice kid, but unfortunately WAS NEVER EVEN REAL.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:47 (sixteen years ago)

Uncanny how much that kid looked like him

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:48 (sixteen years ago)

^ yeah I was thinking that.
The golden light stuff incensed me at the time but I've made my peace with it a bit now, I just lump it with lol-finale stuff. Yeah they didn't need to put it all the way through s6 but tbf s6 was shitty anyway. It's s6 as a whole that's really annoyed me, mainly for the blatant lack of consistency in the one storyline that was meant to be the whole origin of the whole damn island.

Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:55 (sixteen years ago)

Would try out Fringe but stupid Hulu only has season 2.

lol at this. JJ Abrams' show turned out to be a piece of shit, I'm gonna go watch his other show now instead...

Loup-Garou G (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 06:17 (sixteen years ago)

I stopped halfway through S1 of Fringe, but apparently it got completely retooled in the interim and is now essentially a different show. I'm curious, but still not compelled to revisit.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 06:19 (sixteen years ago)


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