Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

what was jj abrams' involvement anyway?

drug dealer

weed carrier?

It's pretty weird to watch Season 1 of Lost and think "The smoke monster is actually a guy named Samuel from ancient times who is trying to prove that you are inherently evil and also kill you."

having never seen more than a few episodes of season 1, judging from this thread a neat little plot summary of this show would be hilarious/completely impenetrable

Abrams was what, co-creator and producer? My impression is he was more involved at the beginning but at some point he left to make MI:3 and Cloverfield and whatever else and never came back in any real way

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291

― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Tuesday, May 25, 2010 7:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

^^^ this is mad hilar

'quote "light and water"'

And the commenters keep commenting:

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2010/05/lost-finale-reviews-which-most-likely-infuriated-die-hard-lost-fans/

Unlike Seinfeld , Friends and Everybody Loves Raymond, Lost moved you in spiritual and adventurous way.

wiki

Abrams directed and wrote the two-part pilot for Lost and remained active producer for the first half of the season. He later co-wrote the teleplay for Lost's third season premiere A Tale of Two Cities, and continued to participate in creative meetings with Damon Lindleof and Carlton Cuse about the direction and mythology of the show until its finish.

Here's everyone who got a writing credit on the show, and which seasons their episodes aired:

JJ Abrams (1, 3)
Carlton Cuse (1-6)
Leonard Dick (1, 2)
Paul Dini (1)
Brent Fletcher (1)
David Fury (1)
Jim Galasso (6)
Drew Goddard (1, 3, 4)
Javier Grillo-Marxuach (1, 2)
Adam Horowitz (1-6)
Jennifer Johnson (1)
Dawn Lambertson Kelly (2)
Christina M. Kim (2-4)
Edward Kitsis (1-6)
Damon Lindelof (1-6)
Lynne E. Litt (1)
Steven Maeda (2)
Greggory Nations (4-6)
Monica Owusu-Breen (3)
Kyle Pennington (4-5)
Jeff Pinkner (3)
Matt Ragghianti (2)
Graham Roland (6)
Jordan Rosenberg (3)
Elizabeth Sarnoff (2-6)
Alison Schapker (3)
Janet Tamaro (1)
Christian Taylor (1)
Melinda Hsu Taylor (5, 6)
Brian K. Vaughan (3-5)
Craig Wright (2)
Paul Zbyszewski (5, 6)

Who wrote paulo and nikki?

Dear

Greggory Nations (4-6)
Graham Roland (6)
Elizabeth Sarnoff (2-6)
Melinda Hsu Taylor (5-6)
Paul Zbyszewski (5-6),

Fuck you.

David Fury wrote Walkabout -- I always hoped he would write more for Lost after that.

I was really hoping they'd pull some Wizard of Oz type shit where the statue, the temple, Jacob, etc, were all mystical BS put there by Widmore/Eloise whoever all to disguise the fact the island is some sort of time travel machine built in part by Faraday. And tie the numbers in some way to that, and Dharma, and make the electro-magnetism some sort of time travel side effect which is why the island's hidden in the first place. And maybe Desmond living down there for three years made him immune. Or whatever.

But I was expecting what we got. Whatever,everybody kisses and goes to heaven. But it's just too bad they didn't even try to wrap up any of the stuff that made the show so much fun in the first place.

Who wrote paulo and nikki?

I dunno who conceived the characters, but Kitsis and Horowitz wrote "Expose."

The thing is, I get the impression that Cuse and Lindelof are the ones responsible for the general narrative direction of the show, and the staff writers just sort of fill in the dialogue a lot of the time.

Typically episode writers have zero individual control over the plot points within an episode.

I was really hoping they'd pull some Wizard of Oz type shit where the statue, the temple, Jacob, etc, were all mystical BS put there by Widmore/Eloise whoever all to disguise the fact the island is some sort of time travel machine built in part by Faraday. And tie the numbers in some way to that, and Dharma, and make the electro-magnetism some sort of time travel side effect which is why the island's hidden in the first place. And maybe Desmond living down there for three years made him immune. Or whatever.

It's pretty sad that almost every fan theory I've read is better than what we got in the end. At least insofar as most of the theories involve some sort of resolution.

The review I read in the link above that said something about 'creative cowardice' is just about right. I think Cuse and Lindelof have been mentioning that a lot of stuff wouldn't be resolved for a while now because they realized that they'd painted themselves into a corner. In the end, they failed to resolve most of the lingering mysteries. And a lot of the ones that they did resolve seemed half-assed and perfunctory.

they're the bernie madoff of 44-minute drama is who they are

serious request - can someone post a brief synopsis of each season

No, you have to truly share in our pain to UNDERSTAND

Deric you do realize you just quoted this entire thread, right?

loooolllllzzzzz not trying to embarrass anyone, but its fun to look at this thread and see the speculation that obviously was all for nothing. fun and kinda sad.

"Was there any significance in Smokey/Locke cutting off a piece of the rug or tapestry thing in the room where Jacon died? I just thought the size and shape of the piece he cut off to wipe the knife on was almost exactly the same as the piece of rug the shadow of the statue dudes found in the cabin..."

my mind was not blown but i have faith that the writers won't fuck this up

― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Thursday, February 4, 2010 2:52 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm sure when I went back to the season 4 thread I found a quote from the writers which said that the episode "Not in Portland" had an anagram that would relate to the skeletons. All I can think of is that this would be 'mittelos' = lost time, not exactly a mind-blower nor related to the skellingtons in any way.

Actually I'm sure the writers came up with something like this every week, can anyone put them together and try them for crimes against humanity?

man of science, cutty of faith

In an EW.com article, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse answered the fan question, "What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?"
CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the Island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in "Not in Portland", one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.
LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living—or, I guess, slowly decomposing—proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, "That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this."

Every time I read this it makes me more and more angry. Like Locke and the button-pushing.

actually what's a good anagram of THE SKELETONS ARE MAN IN BLACK AND HIS MOM?

the one that annoys me was that even in the clip show right before the finale L&C are sitting there talking about the sideways timeline saying things like "so this is a world where the island is underwater. the island and its influence are not in play. we start to notice little differences about the characters and their lives. will the characters reconnect with each other without the island?" who fucking cares, they're all in purgatory. thanks for playing.

ugh my faith has been crushed

also shakey can you leave?

seriously, post synopsis of the season? go to the lost wiki you jerk

I get what you're saying Scott and some people read into a lot of the tiniest details way more than was ever advisable. But at the same time, talking, theorizing, and arguing about this show was a whole lotta fun, and I really don't regret a moment of doing it, regardless of how poorly it ended. And even the folks who went a little nutso on the theorizing, I think they were having fun as well, even if it looks like a strange kind of fun from my perspective. And those folks didn't seem any less insane then than they do now, either.

think my lack of faith was growing for a while up to the finale...it was always going to be a ridiculously long shot for them to pull this out of the bag after they wasted every chance to set up some answers/meaningful conclusions in the last 5/6 eps before the end.

i think "darlton" should be seriously ashamed of themselves, to defend such shit with such verbosity as they have done. they can't have believed this was the best they could have done, the standard of just about everything in the last few eps was horrendous. so many terrible scenes and lines. eg in the finale boone saying to hurley "shall we get them???"............and hurley replying "nah.....lets give em a minute!"

i mean how many films has that exchange been used in? same with "they're all waitin for ya!" as someone already said, and prob countless other scenes.

hey, this one's good:
Only fools are enslaved by time and space
= Bones of Nadlers may lay deep in lost cave

SEE? They could have done that and I'd have some nice feelings towards them.

Jacob and MiB's last name confirmed as Nadler on the DVDs.

noo it's Bernard and Rose... hang on... one black, one white...
LOST

forgot to mention, bernard and rose can fuck off, them being in this was another tick for the shit list.

Lost = M. Night Shyamalan, but as shaggy dog story instead of twist-ending.

seriously, post synopsis of the season? go to the lost wiki you jerk

dude, relax

this ending=AI, so that means in about 9 years it will be widely hailed as a masterpiece right? [citation needed]

Lost Wiki tries to avoid spoilers, so it isn't really very informative

Try Lostpedia.

there are no spoilers anymore

Can't escape the spoilage.

Season 1: What is this crazy place?
Season 2: What's with these crazy people?
Season 3: Let's play ping-pong, dudes!
Season 4: Can we please leave soon?
Season 5: Someone set us up the bomb.
Season 6: <Unintelligible>

OTM

^^^thanking u

they all died when the bomb went off btw. richard said he saw em die.