Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

The Guardian got that story above completely wrong, apparently. It now says:

More than 600,000 Lost fans watched the last ever episodes on Sky1 yesterday, Monday 24 May - but only 68,000 got up at 5am to watch it live.

Lost had an average live audience of 68,000 viewers between 5am and 7.15am on Sky1. However, when timeshifted viewing – on video recorders and personal video recorders such as Sky+ – between then and 2am this morning is added, this average audience rises to 635,000.

The early morning start for Lost accounts for the unusually high proportion of timeshift viewing - nearly 90% of the total.

xp i mean its only really clear that they never worked out all the rules re how and why dead bodies are used. Q: what DID happen to Christian's corpse? Writers A: It doesn't matter. Well OK then...

"timeshift viewing"
maybe Lost was an elaborate critique of the decreasing communal television audience; it's tearing us apart.

this was never 'clear' as such. he had Locke's memories and even mannerisms inc use of the "don't tell me what I can't do", so why not inherit all of Locke's physical characteristics too (as reset by the island).

― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:15 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

what about the 10,000 shocking cutaways to actual dead locke body in the coffin?

would have been funny if the climax was jack beating a paraplegic to death tho

this was terrible, I mean I won't even get started on the whole purgatory thing but even in the island timeline

what was widmore's plan? what would have happened if smokey escaped? what was the actual effect of the bomb? (I guess this last one was actually answered: nothing)

how can a show introduce all this time travel stuff and then just completely drop it and never even mention it again?

I think the effect of the bomb was to create the heaven/purgatory world. Christian said "you created this world," and we didn't start seeing the alt world until the bomb went off, which to me implies that the bomb DID do something to create the other world. But yeah this was all still dumb bullshit.

No, Christian clearly meant that they all created this world so they could find each other again in the afterlife, and moveon.org. The bomb had naught to to with it.

This whole fucking show is so fucking stupid. GAH!

The bomb pushed them back to the present day, right? I still think Hurley using magic powers to create the purgatory land is the most satisfying answer (he gives people what they want and what they need etc...).

I really don't get the hate, tbh. I mean, what show were you guys watching all of these years? Also, not explaining the 'secrets of the island' was easily the best route.

This show was stupid amounts of fun for 6 years. Naff at times and frustrating (often in a good way), I don't think a crap finale can take away from the experience of watching it up until this point. If it colours everything that came before as a waste of time, then so be it, but you can't deny it was an enjoyable ride.

none of my points are really about island mysteries though, it's mostly about the motivations of different characters on the show. I mean, it's perfectly plausible to assume that Jacob was just an asshole who decided to keep smokey captive on the island and nothing would have actually happened if he left the island. We never found out why it was important to keep smokey from escaping.

No, Christian clearly meant that they all created this world so they could find each other again in the afterlife, and moveon.org. The bomb had naught to to with it.

― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:47 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

but how did they create this world?
a: with the bomb?

I mean, maybe not, I don't know. And there's no way of knowing, obviously.

I think you're assuming that this new revelation has something to do with things we already know. I've been trying to watch season 1 episodes last night and this morning, and I can tell you from recent experience, your assumption is foolish. What they were doing is making up some entirely new shit, that has nothing at all to do with any of the other shit ever, because that's what they do. Over and over and always. It makes no sense.

Watching season 1 again is positively infuriating, tbh. NOTHING, no clues or plot threads or logical threads go anywhere into any of the rest of the series. Not one thing, none of it. These guys were making shit up as they went along from day motherfucking one.

And it's not only lazy, it's irresponsible. They ought to be kicked out of the writer's guild.

Or retitle the series for the DVD release to "Cub Scout Campfire Tales."

Natural successor to Twin Peaks?

I think the themes of faith, fate, and agency were all there from the beginning. xposts

I assumed it wasn't so much that Smokey would run rampant on the mainland a la the T Rex in Lost World, more that the only way he could leave was if the light would go out and as such the whole world would be in peril. I think the fact that they never explained what would happen to the world is a good thing, as it leaves the ambiguity that, actually, maybe nothing would have happened aside from destroying the island.

fwiw just cause the finale sucked doesnt mean i hate the show now or anything

Twin Peaks had heaping helpings of style, though. This show just has lots of "GET OUT OF THERE NOW!" and running and crying. I am hating this show this morning.

it seemed that Smokey genuinely wanted to 'go home' and didn't really have a reason to want to destroy the world or whatever. his desire to see beyond the island was compelling. otoh Jacob was, rightly, worried that a guy who can turn into smoke could cause all kinds of problems away from the island. i don't think Widmore or anyone else would've needed much convincing about helping Jacob just on this basis...as fun as it is to imagine Smokey off island. I like all this, it's a pretty good dilemma - "sorry I created you accidentally and now you can't leave because you're too dangerous a thing to be released from the island".

Twin Peaks was great until they (admittedly, were forced) to solve the murder they never intended to solve. It was pretty shit after that, save the bonkers ending, which was only really good by virtue of being, well, totally bonkers. The problem with these shows (and the creators of Twin Peaks knew this) was that the solution can never add up to the build up of a mystery, at least if you're building that mystery for a large number of episodes. I really think going for the character resolution over answering questions was the best way to do it. I don't think they totally succeded on the character front, mind, but it was a pretty decent stab, especially considering a lot of the characters were never that interesting in the first place.

also Twin Peaks didn't have a chance to wrap everything up

also Twin Peaks was awesome and LOST sucked

Twin Peaks was never going to wrap anything up. The central conceit of the show wrapped up early in the second season, and that's why it flailed around after that. About a third of Twin Peaks' run was awesome.

No, Christian clearly meant that they all created this world so they could find each other again in the afterlife, and moveon.org. The bomb had naught to to with it

yeah agree with this - as much as it may suck

I think if everyone had died and the island had been destroyed in one timeline and everyone happily coupled up in the alt I would have been okay with it. It was the afterlife/vague religious bullshit that killed it for me.

tho why Jack would be experiencing the neck cut in this post-death world, amongst other presumably deliberate red herrings, seems stoopid. unless it was an attempt to get him to realise he was dead and move quicker towards the resolution but of course he was the last person to see the flashes and accept what was happening.

It was kind of quasi-religious, but we've had characters who never aged and could presumably live forever for a long while, not to mention Kate's horse and all that shit turning up on the island. It was always magic to some degree, and even if the alt-reality/purgatory was a bit half-handedly thrown together, it still might work if you consider it a reward given to them by Hurley. The island had powers that meant that death wasn't necessarily the end anyway. Either way it was really just a means to an end to deal with the crux of the show, which was really just a bunch of broken people being thrust into a situation that forced them to confront (or not) who they are and what they don't like about themselves. If Todd Van Der Werff were to be believed, the purgatory ending was hinted at in the first season with Sawyer reading Watership Down. I don't totally buy it, but I like the fact that you can read it that way if you want.

The alt-endings on Kimmel reminded me of how amazing the Sopranos ending was, which is a bad move, but then again that was always a much better show than Lost (even with its narrative dead ends and occasionally dud character arcs).

can't watch Sopranos ending ever again as have banned that Journey song from the rest of my life.

victim of its own success

Gukbe, your apologia is tiresome. The writers were geniuses at manipulation, but couldn't plot their way out of a wet paper bag. And didn't.

I'll take sub-par Spielberg any day.

sorry kenan, forgot this was the internet.

apologism is how i deal

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4639218352_f827076cfc_o.jpg

If Daniel Faraday and Drive Shaft had started a rendition of Bright Eyes it would have redeemed the whole thing.

sorry kenan, forgot this was the internet.

heh. I remembered.

did Claire go "crazy" because she got fat?

What the fuck? Fat? I don't get it.

TV fat, i.e., larger than a size 1.

End of this show = the new
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she did look fat

wat

Oh, fuck off.

Seriously.

everyone looks fat to cutty

Here's tons o' fun three weeks ago:

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/American+Woman+Fashioning+National+Identity+HjNtwxwwWpFl.jpg

Emile de Ravin is about 8 million times sexier than the character she plays. That said I think Claire was two-dimensionalised worse than anyone in the last series, except possibly Sun.

she looks like an olson twin in that pic

Sun's derail from badass business woman to Husband Seeking Robot was tragic. All about the characters my ass.