Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

they certainly botched it. i mean, jacob's lighthouse! widmore's plan!

Well yeah, just meant it wasn't rushed.

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Disappointed there was no Eloise Hawking's Retarded Secrets of the Island Sisterhood

Like "none of this matters, we'll all be happy when we're dead"?

think that's about the size of it. he was conscious of both timelines ... glimpsed the afterlife ... like Juliet right b4 she died

I did think it was cool how they did her dialogue echoed in both timelines ("it worked" was just the candy machine)

didn't understand the scene at the end btw Des and Eloise re: Daniel

Daniel and Charlotte weren't in the church at the end, right? Ah who cares.

Thought Charlotte looked kind of hot though.

Thought Charlotte looked kind of hot though.

damn skippy

what was the deal with her rifling thru sawyer's stuff in the afterlife tho? oh right: it was a total red herring

nah they werent

that's kinda what I'm talking abt, Eloise was like "you're leaving? you're not taking my son are you?" and Desmond sez "not with us ..." like all meaningful but I dunno what it meant

xp

do people in the afterlife who *don't* meet the people they loved (but have forgotten) from their real life -- do those people just, like die and not go into heaven? or do they go into a second afterlife where they may or may not re-hook-up with the people from the first?

one minor thing that pissed me off was flocke's death. being shot and thrown halfway down a cliff is not, in lost-world, confirmation of death.

what pissed me off was that if Smokey became mortal once the island cork was removed, what was so bad about him leaving the island? how is he supposed to destroy the world without his gnarly island powers? it was fucking stupid.

i feel hungover + pissed off

it was pretty funny sawyer calling smokemonster 'smokey' heh

More than 600,000 fans braved an early morning start yesterday, Monday 24 May, to watch the finale of Lost at 5am on Sky1 – more than have been watching the show in its regular Friday 9pm slot in recent weeks.

Lost had a five-minute peak audience of 854,000 viewers, with an average of 635,000 between 5am and 7.15am.

yesterday i avoided the internet completely to avoid the ending being spoiled. it was actually pretty fun i went all over london trying to find some wild boar for us to eat and then did loads of cooking and drank beers. i watched it with 4 other ppl. 1 guy had already watched it in the morning and loved it, the rest of us were pretty disappointed ranging from 'it was as good as it could have been given s6' to 'what a steaming pile of quasi-religious bullshit'. we were really hoping that in the scene where locke discovers he can move his feet that he was going to jump up and continue fighting jack in the alt. ppl who don't really watch lost seem to be thinking the ending was 'they were all dead' which is slightly misleading but the correction is 'actually no they invented an entirely unrelated universe in which they are all dead' lol

i feel like a weight has been lifted now this show is over. mostly i feel embarrassed for defending this show over the last 6 years.

there was a lot of dread about this so i didn't want to watch it at a party or public place. the best time to have a lost finale party would've been for s3 looking back. that's my favourite of the six finales - 2 is pretty much as good tho.

i was still somewhat moved by the final scenes tho

i didn't even see the final post-BOOM-LOST shot of the wreckage

there was a season of 'weeds' that ended with ween's 'you fucked up' iirc

that would have been lol in this context

what pissed me off was that if Smokey became mortal once the island cork was removed, what was so bad about him leaving the island? how is he supposed to destroy the world without his gnarly island powers? it was fucking stupid.

yeah but he didn't necessarily want to destroy the world and maybe killing him was pointless... although maybe he could get off the island and then someone could put the cork back in, giving him his powers back.

what was so bad about him leaving the island?

he'd done a lot of bad stuff so jack still wanted to kill him?

with the 'cork' out i think the island's magic should've been undone totally - so Flocke would've lost use of his legs...and he could've just died there instead of on the cliff. this scene reminded me too much of awful Neo vs Smith in the third Matrix film because of the rain. the whole convenient storm was a poor decision.

why would he lose his legs

they established pretty clearly that smokey wasnt using his actual body

also i always thought sayid/shannon was one of the more convincing romantic relationships on the show and that dude really seemed hurt when she died -- but then they barely made reference to her for the next 4 seasons and even as recently as a few episodes sayid was all talking about how the love of his life was nadya, so it seemed like a goofy thing to suddenly come back to.

(This counts as "not developed enough for me to care" IMO.)

they established pretty clearly that smokey wasnt using his actual body

this was never 'clear' as such. he had Locke's memories and even mannerisms inc use of the "don't tell me what I can't do", so why not inherit all of Locke's physical characteristics too (as reset by the island).

The Guardian got that story above completely wrong, apparently. It now says:

More than 600,000 Lost fans watched the last ever episodes on Sky1 yesterday, Monday 24 May - but only 68,000 got up at 5am to watch it live.

Lost had an average live audience of 68,000 viewers between 5am and 7.15am on Sky1. However, when timeshifted viewing – on video recorders and personal video recorders such as Sky+ – between then and 2am this morning is added, this average audience rises to 635,000.

The early morning start for Lost accounts for the unusually high proportion of timeshift viewing - nearly 90% of the total.

xp i mean its only really clear that they never worked out all the rules re how and why dead bodies are used. Q: what DID happen to Christian's corpse? Writers A: It doesn't matter. Well OK then...

"timeshift viewing"
maybe Lost was an elaborate critique of the decreasing communal television audience; it's tearing us apart.

this was never 'clear' as such. he had Locke's memories and even mannerisms inc use of the "don't tell me what I can't do", so why not inherit all of Locke's physical characteristics too (as reset by the island).

― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:15 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

what about the 10,000 shocking cutaways to actual dead locke body in the coffin?

would have been funny if the climax was jack beating a paraplegic to death tho

this was terrible, I mean I won't even get started on the whole purgatory thing but even in the island timeline

what was widmore's plan? what would have happened if smokey escaped? what was the actual effect of the bomb? (I guess this last one was actually answered: nothing)

how can a show introduce all this time travel stuff and then just completely drop it and never even mention it again?

I think the effect of the bomb was to create the heaven/purgatory world. Christian said "you created this world," and we didn't start seeing the alt world until the bomb went off, which to me implies that the bomb DID do something to create the other world. But yeah this was all still dumb bullshit.

No, Christian clearly meant that they all created this world so they could find each other again in the afterlife, and moveon.org. The bomb had naught to to with it.

This whole fucking show is so fucking stupid. GAH!

The bomb pushed them back to the present day, right? I still think Hurley using magic powers to create the purgatory land is the most satisfying answer (he gives people what they want and what they need etc...).

I really don't get the hate, tbh. I mean, what show were you guys watching all of these years? Also, not explaining the 'secrets of the island' was easily the best route.

This show was stupid amounts of fun for 6 years. Naff at times and frustrating (often in a good way), I don't think a crap finale can take away from the experience of watching it up until this point. If it colours everything that came before as a waste of time, then so be it, but you can't deny it was an enjoyable ride.

none of my points are really about island mysteries though, it's mostly about the motivations of different characters on the show. I mean, it's perfectly plausible to assume that Jacob was just an asshole who decided to keep smokey captive on the island and nothing would have actually happened if he left the island. We never found out why it was important to keep smokey from escaping.

No, Christian clearly meant that they all created this world so they could find each other again in the afterlife, and moveon.org. The bomb had naught to to with it.

― Eighteen straight. I think that's a record. (kenan), Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:47 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

but how did they create this world?
a: with the bomb?

I mean, maybe not, I don't know. And there's no way of knowing, obviously.

I think you're assuming that this new revelation has something to do with things we already know. I've been trying to watch season 1 episodes last night and this morning, and I can tell you from recent experience, your assumption is foolish. What they were doing is making up some entirely new shit, that has nothing at all to do with any of the other shit ever, because that's what they do. Over and over and always. It makes no sense.

Watching season 1 again is positively infuriating, tbh. NOTHING, no clues or plot threads or logical threads go anywhere into any of the rest of the series. Not one thing, none of it. These guys were making shit up as they went along from day motherfucking one.

And it's not only lazy, it's irresponsible. They ought to be kicked out of the writer's guild.

Or retitle the series for the DVD release to "Cub Scout Campfire Tales."

Natural successor to Twin Peaks?

I think the themes of faith, fate, and agency were all there from the beginning. xposts

I assumed it wasn't so much that Smokey would run rampant on the mainland a la the T Rex in Lost World, more that the only way he could leave was if the light would go out and as such the whole world would be in peril. I think the fact that they never explained what would happen to the world is a good thing, as it leaves the ambiguity that, actually, maybe nothing would have happened aside from destroying the island.

fwiw just cause the finale sucked doesnt mean i hate the show now or anything

Twin Peaks had heaping helpings of style, though. This show just has lots of "GET OUT OF THERE NOW!" and running and crying. I am hating this show this morning.

it seemed that Smokey genuinely wanted to 'go home' and didn't really have a reason to want to destroy the world or whatever. his desire to see beyond the island was compelling. otoh Jacob was, rightly, worried that a guy who can turn into smoke could cause all kinds of problems away from the island. i don't think Widmore or anyone else would've needed much convincing about helping Jacob just on this basis...as fun as it is to imagine Smokey off island. I like all this, it's a pretty good dilemma - "sorry I created you accidentally and now you can't leave because you're too dangerous a thing to be released from the island".

Twin Peaks was great until they (admittedly, were forced) to solve the murder they never intended to solve. It was pretty shit after that, save the bonkers ending, which was only really good by virtue of being, well, totally bonkers. The problem with these shows (and the creators of Twin Peaks knew this) was that the solution can never add up to the build up of a mystery, at least if you're building that mystery for a large number of episodes. I really think going for the character resolution over answering questions was the best way to do it. I don't think they totally succeded on the character front, mind, but it was a pretty decent stab, especially considering a lot of the characters were never that interesting in the first place.

also Twin Peaks didn't have a chance to wrap everything up

also Twin Peaks was awesome and LOST sucked

Twin Peaks was never going to wrap anything up. The central conceit of the show wrapped up early in the second season, and that's why it flailed around after that. About a third of Twin Peaks' run was awesome.