Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

i hope hurley used his magical island powers to generate all the hot pockets he could desire.

I didn't really care or go all gooey when they got together, but then again the show never consistently hit the emotional spots it wanted to. I remember deploring the Jack/Kate/Sawyer triangle as dull and lifeless (this might just be down to Kate being a bit crap), and was ecstatic when Saywer and Juliet made a life for themselves. But yeah, Sayid/Shannon, I always expected to watch those things happen without being emotionally invested. That's what Lost has been all along.
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I get the major hate for this from people who have pulled apart and discussed all the details and whatnot, but as I've always considered it to be fun and fairly enjoyable, it was always a second tier show. Also, even though the ending was schmaltzy, it worked intercut with Jack dying because, even though we see them and they all lived fake lives in purgatory, most of these people still died. Jack's life was kind of tragic all told, and even if he found some level of acceptance it was still pretty downbeat.

I mean, I agree with bnw. It kept me entertained for 2.5h and even moved me sometimes, and so was actually better than what I was expecting from the rest of this season. However, it was pretty cheap and easy and it certainly did not live up to the expectations set by previous seasons.

xposts Ha, OK, you didn't care either.

On the list of good series closers, Star Trek: TNG had a terrific one, but that show didn't do the whole continuous plot thing either.

"For a second when I saw Ben not go into the church I thought the whole thing was going to blow up, which would have been a better ending."

That would have been kinda awesome.

what was with hurley's pep talk to sayid? you can be whatever you want to be, dude. sayid was definitely one of the more self aware characters. just seemed weird.

The TNG finale was pretty convoluted and sappy and everything in it was imaginary, too. Saved by great acting. There's a scene of Picard as an old man looking immensely pleased with himself, like he had a particularly well-formed bowel movement that just gets me every time.

#3 on the chart, I'd bet.

It seems clear to me, having read people's reactions all day today, that if you loved the show special and held it close to your maudlin wittle <3, it was the perfect finale to the series. If you thought the show was "about" spirituality from season one, you were also thrilled. (On "On Point" today was a woman who teaches a class called Heroes, Villains, and Monsters, and actually teaches the show in her class. She thought the finale was dandy. Sounds like a freshman blow-off class to me.) If you're a puzzle geek with an addictive personality, you were enraged by the finale. If you want most of all to see well-written genre TV, you probably stopped watching a couple of seasons ago, and if you watched the finale anyway, it only confirmed your worst suspicions about the writers' intentions.

Myself, I have some puzzle geek tendencies, but am by far mostly in the latter camp. I've kept one eye on the show through the last two seasons, mostly without actually actually watching it. I'm sure I'll miss NYmag.com's recaps far more than the show itself.

what was with hurley's pep talk to sayid? you can be whatever you want to be, dude. sayid was definitely one of the more self aware characters. just seemed weird.

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thought that was one of the best scenes of the episode, actually, hurley just kind of knowing all this noble stuff sayid had done on the island and wanting him to know he was a good dude.

also i always thought sayid/shannon was one of the more convincing romantic relationships on the show and that dude really seemed hurt when she died -- but then they barely made reference to her for the next 4 seasons and even as recently as a few episodes sayid was all talking about how the love of his life was nadya, so it seemed like a goofy thing to suddenly come back to.

Desmond pretty much got screwed over by the ending, right?

yeah, what happened to desmond after hurley and ben pulled him up by rope? was he dead or s.thing?

I couldn't work out what they were doing with Desmond. Like, he could see everything that was happening after his death. To what purpose? Like "none of this matters, we'll all be happy when we're dead"?

Don't see much point in theorising about any of it now, given they've pretty much conclusively proven they didn't know what they were doing, but I assume the bomb blast caused the incident?

The annoying thing, more than the mawkishness, is that they had the opportunity to do so much and pissed it away with an alternate timeline that ultimately went nowhere, which meant they botched and rushed what was happening in the real timeline.

(xpost - Desmond was alive and Ben and Hurley decided to send him home)

http://www.howdidlostend.com

which meant they botched and rushed what was happening in the real timeline

Except that's not even true because the bulk of this season's real timeline was just people walking backwards and forwards across the island because somebody told them to.

they certainly botched it. i mean, jacob's lighthouse! widmore's plan!

Well yeah, just meant it wasn't rushed.

http://imgur.com/nN5DP.jpg

Disappointed there was no Eloise Hawking's Retarded Secrets of the Island Sisterhood

Like "none of this matters, we'll all be happy when we're dead"?

think that's about the size of it. he was conscious of both timelines ... glimpsed the afterlife ... like Juliet right b4 she died

I did think it was cool how they did her dialogue echoed in both timelines ("it worked" was just the candy machine)

didn't understand the scene at the end btw Des and Eloise re: Daniel

Daniel and Charlotte weren't in the church at the end, right? Ah who cares.

Thought Charlotte looked kind of hot though.

Thought Charlotte looked kind of hot though.

damn skippy

what was the deal with her rifling thru sawyer's stuff in the afterlife tho? oh right: it was a total red herring

nah they werent

that's kinda what I'm talking abt, Eloise was like "you're leaving? you're not taking my son are you?" and Desmond sez "not with us ..." like all meaningful but I dunno what it meant

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do people in the afterlife who *don't* meet the people they loved (but have forgotten) from their real life -- do those people just, like die and not go into heaven? or do they go into a second afterlife where they may or may not re-hook-up with the people from the first?

one minor thing that pissed me off was flocke's death. being shot and thrown halfway down a cliff is not, in lost-world, confirmation of death.

what pissed me off was that if Smokey became mortal once the island cork was removed, what was so bad about him leaving the island? how is he supposed to destroy the world without his gnarly island powers? it was fucking stupid.

i feel hungover + pissed off

it was pretty funny sawyer calling smokemonster 'smokey' heh

More than 600,000 fans braved an early morning start yesterday, Monday 24 May, to watch the finale of Lost at 5am on Sky1 – more than have been watching the show in its regular Friday 9pm slot in recent weeks.

Lost had a five-minute peak audience of 854,000 viewers, with an average of 635,000 between 5am and 7.15am.

yesterday i avoided the internet completely to avoid the ending being spoiled. it was actually pretty fun i went all over london trying to find some wild boar for us to eat and then did loads of cooking and drank beers. i watched it with 4 other ppl. 1 guy had already watched it in the morning and loved it, the rest of us were pretty disappointed ranging from 'it was as good as it could have been given s6' to 'what a steaming pile of quasi-religious bullshit'. we were really hoping that in the scene where locke discovers he can move his feet that he was going to jump up and continue fighting jack in the alt. ppl who don't really watch lost seem to be thinking the ending was 'they were all dead' which is slightly misleading but the correction is 'actually no they invented an entirely unrelated universe in which they are all dead' lol

i feel like a weight has been lifted now this show is over. mostly i feel embarrassed for defending this show over the last 6 years.

there was a lot of dread about this so i didn't want to watch it at a party or public place. the best time to have a lost finale party would've been for s3 looking back. that's my favourite of the six finales - 2 is pretty much as good tho.

i was still somewhat moved by the final scenes tho

i didn't even see the final post-BOOM-LOST shot of the wreckage

there was a season of 'weeds' that ended with ween's 'you fucked up' iirc

that would have been lol in this context

what pissed me off was that if Smokey became mortal once the island cork was removed, what was so bad about him leaving the island? how is he supposed to destroy the world without his gnarly island powers? it was fucking stupid.

yeah but he didn't necessarily want to destroy the world and maybe killing him was pointless... although maybe he could get off the island and then someone could put the cork back in, giving him his powers back.

what was so bad about him leaving the island?

he'd done a lot of bad stuff so jack still wanted to kill him?

with the 'cork' out i think the island's magic should've been undone totally - so Flocke would've lost use of his legs...and he could've just died there instead of on the cliff. this scene reminded me too much of awful Neo vs Smith in the third Matrix film because of the rain. the whole convenient storm was a poor decision.

why would he lose his legs

they established pretty clearly that smokey wasnt using his actual body

also i always thought sayid/shannon was one of the more convincing romantic relationships on the show and that dude really seemed hurt when she died -- but then they barely made reference to her for the next 4 seasons and even as recently as a few episodes sayid was all talking about how the love of his life was nadya, so it seemed like a goofy thing to suddenly come back to.

(This counts as "not developed enough for me to care" IMO.)

they established pretty clearly that smokey wasnt using his actual body

this was never 'clear' as such. he had Locke's memories and even mannerisms inc use of the "don't tell me what I can't do", so why not inherit all of Locke's physical characteristics too (as reset by the island).

The Guardian got that story above completely wrong, apparently. It now says:

More than 600,000 Lost fans watched the last ever episodes on Sky1 yesterday, Monday 24 May - but only 68,000 got up at 5am to watch it live.

Lost had an average live audience of 68,000 viewers between 5am and 7.15am on Sky1. However, when timeshifted viewing – on video recorders and personal video recorders such as Sky+ – between then and 2am this morning is added, this average audience rises to 635,000.

The early morning start for Lost accounts for the unusually high proportion of timeshift viewing - nearly 90% of the total.

xp i mean its only really clear that they never worked out all the rules re how and why dead bodies are used. Q: what DID happen to Christian's corpse? Writers A: It doesn't matter. Well OK then...

"timeshift viewing"
maybe Lost was an elaborate critique of the decreasing communal television audience; it's tearing us apart.

this was never 'clear' as such. he had Locke's memories and even mannerisms inc use of the "don't tell me what I can't do", so why not inherit all of Locke's physical characteristics too (as reset by the island).

― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:15 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

what about the 10,000 shocking cutaways to actual dead locke body in the coffin?

would have been funny if the climax was jack beating a paraplegic to death tho

this was terrible, I mean I won't even get started on the whole purgatory thing but even in the island timeline

what was widmore's plan? what would have happened if smokey escaped? what was the actual effect of the bomb? (I guess this last one was actually answered: nothing)

how can a show introduce all this time travel stuff and then just completely drop it and never even mention it again?

I think the effect of the bomb was to create the heaven/purgatory world. Christian said "you created this world," and we didn't start seeing the alt world until the bomb went off, which to me implies that the bomb DID do something to create the other world. But yeah this was all still dumb bullshit.

No, Christian clearly meant that they all created this world so they could find each other again in the afterlife, and moveon.org. The bomb had naught to to with it.

This whole fucking show is so fucking stupid. GAH!

The bomb pushed them back to the present day, right? I still think Hurley using magic powers to create the purgatory land is the most satisfying answer (he gives people what they want and what they need etc...).