Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I don't have too many complaints about an episode that is a logistical nightmare to make (no matter that the nightmare is of their own making), but they could afford to let the actors riff/react a bit more on the comedy side. Like a few seconds of Hurley looking nauseated at the rust-water, maybe sheepishly wiping the mouth of the bottle with his t-shirt with Ben giving him a look like "I know I'm a creepy guy who just shot my longtime nemesis, but I don't have cooties!", asking Jack "really?" after Jack says "now you're like me" and Jack replying, "I dunno, that's what the last guy said."

i keep seeing ppl saying how did jacob get off the island to 'touch' the candidates. I though it was implied somewhere that the magic mirrors in the lighthouse were sort of portal like.

dunno why locke led jack there to smash them tho.

shit things

1. no smoke monster in finale/oh look he's dead he just got shot. i was more and more disappointed as it became clear smokey wasn't going to come howling through the air to rip the plane to bits. they sort of lessened his evil as the series went on and he just became sort of a stubbornish jerk.

2. "you have to let go, to move on, to remember the love, to do various shit that is vague enough for us to not explain what actually happened at the end"

3. wtf was the point of the alt? anyone?

4. why was the island sunk

5. why did ben end the last ep like "who do i need to kill?" then suddenly become a good wholesome dude again without anyone saying anything or any reason whatsoever.

it all reminded me of several really bad films, and i think if you thought of it as a standalone film, like imagine yourself watching that in a cinema, it comes across as basically the worst shit i've ever seen.

the only saving grace was that some of the pulling the heartstrings stuff did get me a little cos as someone said already here, there was a time when i cared about these characters and their pain etc was well sketched.

was really cool that the light was down there in a manmade jacuzzi and when des went down a rope down into the light it was really fucking dark - shit like that too

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I do not know if television will ever see this many man tears again.

a scene where we actually see the transition between Locke and smokemonster would've been nice, especially if in the process of being destroyed. i mean they did the Indiana Jones volcanic temple thing so why not go all the way.

i think the sunken island was just crappy symbolism in people's mind once dead. everything we saw in the alt was just the people between reality and the afterlife. not purgatory but the waiting room (with Ben stuck in purgatory it seems).

So what happened to the island after the atomic bomb ... blew up?

dogen got a baseball

to clarify it seems the writers intended the alt as a process which each person had to go thru before heaven, on the basis that something they all wanted to do was to enter the afterlife together. i'm kinda forgiving this because i do think it was necessary for as many of them as feasible to be together at the end. only the lack of e.g. eko (because if mass-murderers like sayid and non-islanders like penny are there eko should be) and walt (regardless of how old he is now) renders this fudged for me.

the bomb blew up and this was The Incident after all.

can we get a gif of jack waking up after MIB knocked him out. he moved his arms around like a little baby. and his face looked baby-like too. like he had gas. it was funny!

season six was good sometimes but just lead up to disappointment, lameness and suckage

i don't care to understand the alt-sideways and I feel like a lot of it is "take it as you will" and not purgatory or anything the writers say in metaphor

(waiting for someone to say 'word')

i think if you thought of it as a standalone film, like imagine yourself watching that in a cinema, it comes across as basically the worst shit i've ever seen.

saw a half hour of the finale (9:30-10:00pm, the indiana jones part) and, if I didn't know it was the Lost finale, I would have assumed I stumbled upon a crappy Syfy movie that was sure taking its time bringing out megashark and superpython. does the show always have the crappy melodramatic synth-orchestra over everything?

i think the music dude used to do video games -- there was a cross-promotional new yorker article about it.

i'm still kind of curious to give the show a try, esp since as soon as it really sucks I can stop knowing full well it was all a dream in heaven or whatever, but the music was so constant and chintzy it might be a dealbreaker.

if it doesn't bother you in video games, it really shouldn't bother you here.

felt bad for desmond that even dead and in limbo he had to run around like an idiot. more "rules", i guess. quick, the only way your friends can go to heaven together is to get them in one room at this particular time and it means you have to break people out of jail and hit people with your car and beat the shit out of ben. if you say so.

the funniest orchestration was when Jack and company are walking on a grass hill after Jack said "we're going to where it all ends" and the stringed instruments start making a beat

I stand by what I said in the Ashes 2 Ashes thread about if this was the ending.

if it doesn't bother you in video games, it really shouldn't bother you here.

lol i always play games in mute unless they're of the grand theft radio type, and it should totally bother me more to hear crappy music when i'm passively watching a show then when i'm pressing buttons and rewarded with punching sounds and the grunts of the fallen.

lots of wave and "jungle" sound effects to make up for crap music, plus DRIVE SHAFT.

there were plenty of punching sounds and fallen grunts in the finale. or at least in that kimmel clip.

after watching this & 24, TV shows really shouldn't attempt michael bay style cgi because it ends up looking like total shit

Actually, the pop music that shows up once the Dharma INT is discovered is pretty good, esp. coz they do riffs on memory/time travel by using the same songs again and again ... prob. gleaned from "Chung King Express"

FYI Giacchino's Lost music doesn't use synths, it's all musicians from LA orchestras working from score.

Normally his music for the show is quite good. I think the prob last night was a) music was mixed way too loud and b) unrelentingly elegiac tone was required for like 65% of the run time.

I actually thought his little war theme for when the two groups were approaching each other across a field was pretty sweet...

remember the shark with the dharma logo tattoo - that was cool

wish we could've seen a shark when they went back to the 70s - just hauling it out of the back of a VW van

I actually thought his little war theme for when the two groups were approaching each other across a field was pretty sweet...

yeah sounded v Western (but not exactly Morricone)

FYI Giacchino's Lost music doesn't use synths, it's all musicians from LA orchestras working from score.

really? like a full '70s Queen "there are no synthesizers on this album" deal? i didn't think it was all synth but it definitely had a synthetic tinge to it.

It's the way they mixed it, it made the strings sound way too intense to be acoustic.

Some of the strange sounds he gets are via extended techniques cribbed from post-war avant-garde composers (this kind of thig is v v common among film composers today, not so much TV composers). In the NYer article on the music they talk about the 'superball on a gong' sound and now that I read that I can totally hear it, sounds like an uncanny moan.

I do not think Giacchino is the big standout scorer of the day like Alex Ross seems to (Desplat, Christopher Young and Elfman are all doing more exciting work) but he's not far below those guys and he hasn't been at it as long.

I actually thought his little war theme for when the two groups were approaching each other across a field was pretty sweet...

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thought about that one too. great. though i'm not sure if that was new or the same "marching music" that they used a couple of seasons back...?

anyhow what a great ending

Well, the big Lost party is over, let's all go have a collective puke in the toilet at 2:30 am

xpost yeah i think he has tons of reusable/adaptable leitmotifs in play and that is probly one. I think some soundtrack nerd is actually putting together a musical encyclopedia of all the show's motifs, will post a link if I see it in finished form.

trombone heavy

Yeah he used that gritty trombone swell for almost every commercial break. There is a pretty lol article about that in the NYer article, apparently Abrams got sick of the trombone swell but Giacchino was like 'hire me, hire my trombones'.

backstage $henanigans permeate the plot of LOST

Giacchino also just won the Oscar for "Up" this year. I don't usually notice the scores very much in movies but that one got in my head.

Still haven't listened to that, silly of me as a score nerd, should do so soon.

I would still kind of be interested in seeing a fan edit of the series (pre-Oceanic crash, at least), just to see how much things flow as a chronological narrative.

I'm guessing not well. But oh well.

'a chronological fan edit', that should've read.

to clarify it seems the writers intended the alt as a process which each person had to go thru before heaven, on the basis that something they all wanted to do was to enter the afterlife together. i'm kinda forgiving this because i do think it was necessary for as many of them as feasible to be together at the end.

Nah they'll never get a pass from me on this. They stumbled past it-was-all-a-dream only far enough to land on they-were-all-dead-the-whole-time and that is just shitass godawful writing.

the series beginning with jack eye opening and ending with his eye closing lends more to "it was all jack's dream."

Jackob's Ladder

Lost ranks behind Mr. Belvedere for number of viewers of series finales.

belvedere was straight up genius.

Remember the Belvedere newspaper comic? He was kind of a snooty terrier iirc.

Dozens of people died to protect the set from Land of the Lost, but they all got to go to go to heaven because they remembered the first five seasons at a benefit show in LA. Also, people who do bad stuff are a metaphor for evil.

I rarely post on this thread (or ile in general) but have like many of you been reading this thread for as long as I've been watching LOST. Anyhow for the moment I just feel supremely disappointed. I agree that this was a fairly satisfactory end to S6 and the alt-storyline, but as a series closer it was pretty weak, and anticlimactic in a big way. I was prepared for a big zinger of an ending, a last gotcha in a show committed to gotchas above everything else. Instead it felt like they skipped past the big finale in favor of doing the 10-years-later reunion show. Thinking back, literally none of the stuff that I found so intriguing about the show, especially as it pertained to the first few seasons was addressed at all, indeed it clearly didn't matter.

Anyway whatever. I'm glad it's over.

wesley on belvedere also better and more realistic than anyone on lost. funnier too.