Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

don't know if I would choose mr. eko's church or the temple would be the worst one from lost

Temple. Eko's church was redeemable because his scripture stick was a cool image.

iirc McNulty and Freamon opened a Chesapeake Bay bed and breakfast, Daniels joined FBI Fringe Division, it turned out D'Angelo was just in witness protection the whole time, and Snoop's hair looked good.

"I think we can all agree that this was SO much better than the wire"
for the record, this was sarcasm

suggest ban was also sarcasm, of course, have never sb'd anyone in my life.

Jack's huge jumping punch was such a video game move.

if it ended right there mid-jump, that would be blake's 7-finale-level awesome.

also would be laziest ending ever. i'm surprised more awesome TV isn't made given how lazily it could be made.

I'm not going to let myself read all the posts since yesterday.

IMO, the downfall of Lost was when it stopped having cool mysteries and they focused more on the characters than the island. It's hard to go from all the cool time travel stuff and unexplained science to a season with very little of that and the reasons "we have to go back to the island" ended up being meh.

Plus the epic struggle of good verses evil was (a.) a fist fight with flocke (b.) moving a rock in a cave with wither red or yellow light!

There was some kinda teary-eyed type moments in the final but those moments were mostly just reunions and remembering the good old seasons type stuff. Having lots of those emo moments doesn't make up for the island being an uncool place this season.

(I'm waiting for someone to say 'word')

The Wire had a perfect finale. In season 4.

I hope Jack's jumping kick was a tribute to this:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061223155336/lostpedia/images/d/da/BearLaunchFreeze.jpg

Where does Six Feet Under's ending come in the hierarchy of shit series finales?

How did Hill Street Blues end?

The final episode, "Wedding Bells for Brandon", had Brandon fall in love with Brenda, a golden retriever who belonged to one of Henry and Punky's neighbors. Their whirlwind romance culminated in a cute wedding ceremony in the courtyard, which was mostly attended by other neighborhood canines.

In the two-part series finale, Mr. Belvedere marries and moves to Africa.

In the series finale, ALF is about to be rescued by other survivors of his home planet, but is instead captured by the American military, and the viewer is left to ponder ALF's ultimate fate. This was not supposed to be the finale, as the original airing ended on a "To Be Continued" note. The producers supposedly had a verbal agreement with NBC to get at least one more episode to resolve the cliffhanger. NBC never made good on the deal, and the series was cancelled. However, the story was concluded in the TV-movie Project ALF.

You know, maybe I'll give it up to the LOST guy who said it was all about the characters. Maybe it's my bad for assuming that he was saying that it was all about consistent/logical character development.

Back in season 4 I remember spending a lot of time trying to figure out the time discrepancies between the island and the freighter and being frustrated that it didn't seem to make sense. In retrospect, that's probably when I started to lose faith in the show's ability to stay grounded in a coherent narrative. (Not that I craved answers, necessarily, just some internal consistency.) Ultimately, I think the show's ambition -- or at least its desire to keep introducing new and exciting mysteries, characters, storytelling forms -- resulted, detrimentally, in a loss of focus.

I like the tension between "did they really plot this out from the beginning of the series" and "did they just make this up" for the big twist in the Malcolm in the Middle finale, which is very much in the vein of Jacob/Ben twists in Lost.

The final episode, "Wedding Bells for Brandon", had Brandon fall in love with Brenda, a golden retriever who belonged to one of Henry and Punky's neighbors. Their whirlwind romance culminated in a cute wedding ceremony in the courtyard, which was mostly attended by other neighborhood canines.

Okay, this sounds like the best finale ever. Dog wedding! Lost should have had Vincent get married.

Where does Six Feet Under's ending come in the hierarchy of shit series finales?

Was just thinking that this was one of my favorite series enders ever. Even though it wasn't all that dissimilar to the way LOST ended, it made much more sense in the context of SFU as a whole. Not to mention that it was 1,000X more elegant and affecting (I wept. Like a baby.) I'd say that a show about death is gonna be the only one that gets a pass on pulling this kinda shit. And only then if it's done well.

Also, the ALF finale doesn't count, since they went back to that universe with a TV movie.

Ultimately, I think the show's ambition -- or at least its desire to keep introducing new and exciting mysteries, characters, storytelling forms -- resulted, detrimentally, in a loss of focus.

I would've rather had a completely batshit, OTT, and incoherent bang than the relatively unambitious (but still somewhat incoherent) whimper that we got.

end of six feet under was perfect

I thought this was pretty funny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg

My main problem with the SIx Feet Under ending was the hilarious old people makeup, kind of undercut any poignancy for me

Just remembered that there were actually quite a few touches I liked, including "Christian Shepherd? Seriously?" although it began to feel a little too much like breaking the fourth wall just because it was the finale.

And if anyone can help me work out what film(s) a surreal "go on in... they're all waiting for you" -esque instruction is from I'd be grateful.

"go on in... they're all waiting for you"

Close Encounters....?

most disappointed strangely by the fact that, of all the tearful kissy rememberful reunions they managed to NOT give one to desmond and penny, the only couple i ever really cared about.

one of the biggest constraints on writing these bastards is the availability of the actors. remember when they couldn't use Alpert much cos he was signed up for some pilot that bombed. I guess they had to fizzle/off-screen penny for similar reasons.

I didn't see the version with the shots of the wreckage over the credits - just had a look now on Youtube. There was some discussion on Lostpedia last night as to whether that was part of it or whether that was added by ABC. Does this change anything? Would it hint that the ajira plane crashed and never made it off the island?

it's pretty strongly implied that Kate etc get away, that they all live longer. also, it would undermine the lengths they went to to have Jack die in the bamboo field and see the plane pass over

"Also, the ALF finale doesn't count, since they went back to that universe with a TV movie."

I move for non-canon status for all TV movies. Have you seen Knight Rider 2000?

easy way to up the finales tension - Flocke *does* murder Bernard & Rose. Could have killed Asian smartass guy too.

Either way, that Ajira plane never made it back to humanity. In real life, there was neither enough fuel nor enough knowledge of where the fuck they were (remember when they teleported?) to get home. But even ignoring that and going by Lost rules, they didn't have the correct bearing to get out of town. Never would've worked. Right...?

don't think i can read all these comments since last night so apologies if anyone already said that they:

1) predicted (albeit only a few days ago) that the final shot would be Jack closing his eyes (tho not necessary amidst the bamboo)

2) really really hoped that Eko might just be a priest inside the church at the end. fuck this show for not moving heaven and earth to get Eko and Walt into the finale (unless they did in which case fuck Eko and Walt for turning them down ;)

all waiting for you -- the characters in Deconstructing Harry.

haha i'm imagining they hired dogen actor to go to walt actor with growth stunting pills saying "swallow this" while tossing a baseball up and down.

also felt like they were really rubbing it in with hurley's "dude's worse than yoda." any other season and that would have been rilly funny.

the more i think about it the more i believe that jacob might have been one of the worst t.v. characters in history. with some of the worst dialogue ever.

I don't have too many complaints about an episode that is a logistical nightmare to make (no matter that the nightmare is of their own making), but they could afford to let the actors riff/react a bit more on the comedy side. Like a few seconds of Hurley looking nauseated at the rust-water, maybe sheepishly wiping the mouth of the bottle with his t-shirt with Ben giving him a look like "I know I'm a creepy guy who just shot my longtime nemesis, but I don't have cooties!", asking Jack "really?" after Jack says "now you're like me" and Jack replying, "I dunno, that's what the last guy said."

i keep seeing ppl saying how did jacob get off the island to 'touch' the candidates. I though it was implied somewhere that the magic mirrors in the lighthouse were sort of portal like.

dunno why locke led jack there to smash them tho.

shit things

1. no smoke monster in finale/oh look he's dead he just got shot. i was more and more disappointed as it became clear smokey wasn't going to come howling through the air to rip the plane to bits. they sort of lessened his evil as the series went on and he just became sort of a stubbornish jerk.

2. "you have to let go, to move on, to remember the love, to do various shit that is vague enough for us to not explain what actually happened at the end"

3. wtf was the point of the alt? anyone?

4. why was the island sunk

5. why did ben end the last ep like "who do i need to kill?" then suddenly become a good wholesome dude again without anyone saying anything or any reason whatsoever.

it all reminded me of several really bad films, and i think if you thought of it as a standalone film, like imagine yourself watching that in a cinema, it comes across as basically the worst shit i've ever seen.

the only saving grace was that some of the pulling the heartstrings stuff did get me a little cos as someone said already here, there was a time when i cared about these characters and their pain etc was well sketched.

was really cool that the light was down there in a manmade jacuzzi and when des went down a rope down into the light it was really fucking dark - shit like that too

http://www.midseasonreplacements.com/wp/wp-content/imgs/jears21.jpg
http://odoe.net/jackfaces/images/jack_cry.gif
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/soapbox/lost_6113_1.jpg

I do not know if television will ever see this many man tears again.

a scene where we actually see the transition between Locke and smokemonster would've been nice, especially if in the process of being destroyed. i mean they did the Indiana Jones volcanic temple thing so why not go all the way.

i think the sunken island was just crappy symbolism in people's mind once dead. everything we saw in the alt was just the people between reality and the afterlife. not purgatory but the waiting room (with Ben stuck in purgatory it seems).

So what happened to the island after the atomic bomb ... blew up?

dogen got a baseball

to clarify it seems the writers intended the alt as a process which each person had to go thru before heaven, on the basis that something they all wanted to do was to enter the afterlife together. i'm kinda forgiving this because i do think it was necessary for as many of them as feasible to be together at the end. only the lack of e.g. eko (because if mass-murderers like sayid and non-islanders like penny are there eko should be) and walt (regardless of how old he is now) renders this fudged for me.

the bomb blew up and this was The Incident after all.

can we get a gif of jack waking up after MIB knocked him out. he moved his arms around like a little baby. and his face looked baby-like too. like he had gas. it was funny!