Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I'm not trying to be That Guy, but if anybody is going to spoil the ending of the Wire (we're on episode five, season five!!!) could you put a spoiler alert in front of it?

xpost Shakey first 2 or 3 seasons are str8 awes

Don't worry there's no high-concept one sentence bullshit abt the Wire ending so it is not easily spoiled.

Okay, cool. Thanks!

I can't name a single series that went out guns blazing and simultaneously committing to some semblance of conclusion. are there any?

― Philip Nunez, Monday, May 24, 2010 1:53 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

sopranos finale

by refuting the very idea of "conclusion"!

i mean that shit went down GUNS BLAZING. what a great way to end the series.

X-post "Shield" finale is some poetic justice that perfectly sums up the gist of the show. One of those "even when you win you lose" sort of deals.

Man, if anything shows like "Lost" are all about characterture. They keep characters around because people like seeing them and the consistent way they act from ep to ep. Which is why the "let's get the gang back together" ending is such a cop out, as if viewers weren't intelligent or invested enough for something more challenging and complex rather than mawkish and sentimental (however effectively).

I mean, back to "The Shield," characters in that show made choices and suffered the consequences. They weren't pawns in a game someone else was playing. They were playing the game.

this was not as BAAAAAAAAD as battlestar but it was waaaaaaaay LAAAAAAAAAAAAMEr

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if only it had been about the characters

it makes absolutely no difference anymore, BUT...

re richard making it in the modern day world: not such a big deal. the modern world has come to the island many times over the years, and he's been out in it himself like when he did the buddha objects test thing with young locke. plus didn't he have some hospital/business type role back when they recruited juliet?

I just hope Breaking Bad ends up with everybody dead or in jail. If it turns out that Jesse is the eternal guardian of the magic meth lab and Walt is the final cylon, I'm going to start doing meth myself.

yeah sopranos finale was obv the most boss ending of all time

spoiler, but nobody dies choking on a hotdog in the wire. sadly.
i think it'd be great and philosophically in keeping with the wire if all the elaborate and intense narratives turned on something as trivial as an overly zealous weener bite.

re:
'sopranos finale by refuting the very idea of "conclusion"!'
no that's what I mean -- its awesomeness is predicated on there being no resolution, which is a trick you can't pull if you've decided to have resolution of a sort. the awesomeness of desmond in a hatch is tied to its unresolved nature.

don't stop believin guys

Twin Peaks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Sopranos >>> the Wire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BSG > Lost

choose the worst sub-plots from each and poll them and I bet you twin peaks would win

don't know if I would choose mr. eko's church or the temple would be the worst one from lost

Temple. Eko's church was redeemable because his scripture stick was a cool image.

iirc McNulty and Freamon opened a Chesapeake Bay bed and breakfast, Daniels joined FBI Fringe Division, it turned out D'Angelo was just in witness protection the whole time, and Snoop's hair looked good.

"I think we can all agree that this was SO much better than the wire"
for the record, this was sarcasm

suggest ban was also sarcasm, of course, have never sb'd anyone in my life.

Jack's huge jumping punch was such a video game move.

if it ended right there mid-jump, that would be blake's 7-finale-level awesome.

also would be laziest ending ever. i'm surprised more awesome TV isn't made given how lazily it could be made.

I'm not going to let myself read all the posts since yesterday.

IMO, the downfall of Lost was when it stopped having cool mysteries and they focused more on the characters than the island. It's hard to go from all the cool time travel stuff and unexplained science to a season with very little of that and the reasons "we have to go back to the island" ended up being meh.

Plus the epic struggle of good verses evil was (a.) a fist fight with flocke (b.) moving a rock in a cave with wither red or yellow light!

There was some kinda teary-eyed type moments in the final but those moments were mostly just reunions and remembering the good old seasons type stuff. Having lots of those emo moments doesn't make up for the island being an uncool place this season.

(I'm waiting for someone to say 'word')

The Wire had a perfect finale. In season 4.

I hope Jack's jumping kick was a tribute to this:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061223155336/lostpedia/images/d/da/BearLaunchFreeze.jpg

Where does Six Feet Under's ending come in the hierarchy of shit series finales?

How did Hill Street Blues end?

The final episode, "Wedding Bells for Brandon", had Brandon fall in love with Brenda, a golden retriever who belonged to one of Henry and Punky's neighbors. Their whirlwind romance culminated in a cute wedding ceremony in the courtyard, which was mostly attended by other neighborhood canines.

In the two-part series finale, Mr. Belvedere marries and moves to Africa.

In the series finale, ALF is about to be rescued by other survivors of his home planet, but is instead captured by the American military, and the viewer is left to ponder ALF's ultimate fate. This was not supposed to be the finale, as the original airing ended on a "To Be Continued" note. The producers supposedly had a verbal agreement with NBC to get at least one more episode to resolve the cliffhanger. NBC never made good on the deal, and the series was cancelled. However, the story was concluded in the TV-movie Project ALF.

You know, maybe I'll give it up to the LOST guy who said it was all about the characters. Maybe it's my bad for assuming that he was saying that it was all about consistent/logical character development.

Back in season 4 I remember spending a lot of time trying to figure out the time discrepancies between the island and the freighter and being frustrated that it didn't seem to make sense. In retrospect, that's probably when I started to lose faith in the show's ability to stay grounded in a coherent narrative. (Not that I craved answers, necessarily, just some internal consistency.) Ultimately, I think the show's ambition -- or at least its desire to keep introducing new and exciting mysteries, characters, storytelling forms -- resulted, detrimentally, in a loss of focus.

I like the tension between "did they really plot this out from the beginning of the series" and "did they just make this up" for the big twist in the Malcolm in the Middle finale, which is very much in the vein of Jacob/Ben twists in Lost.

The final episode, "Wedding Bells for Brandon", had Brandon fall in love with Brenda, a golden retriever who belonged to one of Henry and Punky's neighbors. Their whirlwind romance culminated in a cute wedding ceremony in the courtyard, which was mostly attended by other neighborhood canines.

Okay, this sounds like the best finale ever. Dog wedding! Lost should have had Vincent get married.

Where does Six Feet Under's ending come in the hierarchy of shit series finales?

Was just thinking that this was one of my favorite series enders ever. Even though it wasn't all that dissimilar to the way LOST ended, it made much more sense in the context of SFU as a whole. Not to mention that it was 1,000X more elegant and affecting (I wept. Like a baby.) I'd say that a show about death is gonna be the only one that gets a pass on pulling this kinda shit. And only then if it's done well.

Also, the ALF finale doesn't count, since they went back to that universe with a TV movie.

Ultimately, I think the show's ambition -- or at least its desire to keep introducing new and exciting mysteries, characters, storytelling forms -- resulted, detrimentally, in a loss of focus.

I would've rather had a completely batshit, OTT, and incoherent bang than the relatively unambitious (but still somewhat incoherent) whimper that we got.

end of six feet under was perfect

I thought this was pretty funny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg

My main problem with the SIx Feet Under ending was the hilarious old people makeup, kind of undercut any poignancy for me

Just remembered that there were actually quite a few touches I liked, including "Christian Shepherd? Seriously?" although it began to feel a little too much like breaking the fourth wall just because it was the finale.

And if anyone can help me work out what film(s) a surreal "go on in... they're all waiting for you" -esque instruction is from I'd be grateful.

"go on in... they're all waiting for you"

Close Encounters....?

most disappointed strangely by the fact that, of all the tearful kissy rememberful reunions they managed to NOT give one to desmond and penny, the only couple i ever really cared about.

one of the biggest constraints on writing these bastards is the availability of the actors. remember when they couldn't use Alpert much cos he was signed up for some pilot that bombed. I guess they had to fizzle/off-screen penny for similar reasons.

I didn't see the version with the shots of the wreckage over the credits - just had a look now on Youtube. There was some discussion on Lostpedia last night as to whether that was part of it or whether that was added by ABC. Does this change anything? Would it hint that the ajira plane crashed and never made it off the island?

it's pretty strongly implied that Kate etc get away, that they all live longer. also, it would undermine the lengths they went to to have Jack die in the bamboo field and see the plane pass over

"Also, the ALF finale doesn't count, since they went back to that universe with a TV movie."

I move for non-canon status for all TV movies. Have you seen Knight Rider 2000?

easy way to up the finales tension - Flocke *does* murder Bernard & Rose. Could have killed Asian smartass guy too.