Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I think "destroying the island" may have been his fatal act of hubris or something. maybe if he didn't unplug the light he could have escaped.

Max, do you think that SPIRITUAL and BEAUTIFUL and MEANINGFUL are bad and stupid things to shoot for, or that the Lost producers just failed in their attempt?

― Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, May 24, 2010 12:17 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

imo i don't think those things are bad, but that they failed.

and that a lot of people can get conned into thinking that spiritual automatically = meaningful

best episode of the season!

this whole season has been completely horrible but the finale wasn't that bad, could've been worse

xxpost dmr Hmm ok that makes it kind of cool if viewed in that way. I'm down with fatal acts of hubris.

Not that they did a good job of bringing that across. It was more just chaos. Locke: You were wrong! Jack: You were wrong too!

could they have shown this ending after season 4 and cut out all the smokey/jacob shit

Hurley must have had a pretty peaceful reign as protector of the island, given that the main threat to the island - smokey - was dead!

The stained glass with a handful of religious symbols really was the nadir of the episode.

yeah seriously what did him and ben do for 1000 years

could they have shown this ending after season 4 and cut out all the smokey/jacob shit

that's basically what I just told a friend to do who's never seen the show and was like "should I watch?" go up thru s4 and then skip to the finale

^ otm which is funny because i liked the little poster of Krsna on the wall and the seated buddhas and whatnot but I guess without the stained glass one person might not have got it what can u do right?

They should have let Drive Shaft play "You All Everybody" one last time.

ha I was so relieved they hardly played any of Daniel + Drive Shaft's revolutionary combination of classical music and hard rock

Holy shit, that and Christian talking to Jack. It would have been cooler if it was just his funeral, and Jack did a little speech about learning to be a leader interspersed with the footage of him watching the plane fly over.

Hurley must have had a pretty peaceful reign as protector of the island, given that the main threat to the island - smokey - was dead!

So you would think, but you haven't reckoned with the menace of special guest Tim Roth as ruthless oil magnate Silas Badrock!

Hurley must have had a pretty peaceful reign as protector of the island, given that the main threat to the island - smokey - was dead!

― it makes sense......................................does it to you? (Z S),

Yeah, his only job, really, was to get Desmond home to Penny somehow. I wonder if ABC is going to try to squeeze some more blood out of this turnip by doing a season of Hurley-Ben-Desmond.

xpost hahahaha

(already thinking up plot pitches for when IDW scores the Hurley/Ben comics franchise)

My version: don't have Christian be alive, Jack's speech is basically "we've had the opportunity to remake our lives, but have the gift of remembering. Now let's live life"

anyhoo it wasn't great by any stretch but i'm weirdly and unexpectedly satisfied. jacob fucked up, badly and repeatedly. and the Source of Everything needed a hard reboot, and this was the story of how that happened.

and once it did, none of the rabbinical details around who gets to do what to whom or what bearing Jacob once decreed was required to leave the island or etc etc applied any more. Hugo gets to rewrite the OS, just like the bird told him to.

wish they'd managed to tell this exact story at higher quality (e.g. agreed that the "John Locke Was Right" scene should have resonated, as just one example of thousands), and it's maybe not the story I would have told, but I'm not angry any more.

has any show ever satisfyingly resolved a series long enigma? Cuz the x-files and heroes sure as shit didn't.

Yeah, but the LOST producers arranged a finite end for their series. That is what makes the generally lazy writing of season 6 pretty unforgiveable. Well, lazy in the context of the rest of the series. Most of s6 had an internal logic unto itself, but it was pretty unsatisfying as a resolution to the series as a whole.

If my girlfriend is still up for watching LOST eventually, I think I'm gonna suggest to her that the s5 finale makes for a better (if more nihilistic) wrap-up.

So, is there a Twin Peaks style movie needed to tie up loose ends?

no

Also, I guess they decided to go whole-hog with the Stephen King/The Stand homage and show that they didn't know how to stop the damn thing once they got it rolling downhill.

i'm weirdly and unexpectedly satisfied

I think "could've been worse" is about as far as I'm willing to go.

the Twin Peaks movie didn't tie up loose ends!

Max, do you think that SPIRITUAL and BEAUTIFUL and MEANINGFUL are bad and stupid things to shoot for, or that the Lost producers just failed in their attempt?

― Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, May 24, 2010 12:17 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think these are awesome things to shoot for! but i think that when you fail, you tend to fail pretty spectacularly

snoop dogg's take on the finale is actually pretty good

i think these are awesome things to shoot for! but i think that when you fail, you tend to fail pretty spectacularly

― max, Monday, May 24, 2010 11:40 AM (27 seconds ago)

ok, cool -- it just seemed like you were sneering at the idea of even making the attempt -- my bad if I misinterpreted that

no, sorry, not at all

It bums me out that they didn't have the guts to actually give anyone an unhappy ending.

Sayid ending up with Shannon while Boone hangs out unattended is total bullshit. I mean, clearly Shannon is not the love of Sayid's life. That part was so ugh.

How come John doesn't care about his fiance? How come Ben doesn't want to go to real heaven? I don't get it.

Also, for a show that has spent so much time talking about babies and and fertility, all those plots turned out to be a huge waste of time and energy.

its tv

they just put stuff in there and I watched it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKyjeRodd4

I definitely think they'll be milking this for an opportunistic movie wrap up in a few years if not sooner.

Ben not wanting to move on yet was ok with me. I read that as 'dude is so complicated he needs another 100 years in limbo to figure himself out'

Still not sure how Ben ended up as a sort-of good guy again at the end after agreeing to help Smokey and shooting Widmore. I guess none of the other Losties knew he shot Widmore so he's just not going to tell anyone and let them assume he was on their side the whole time?

"cut out all the smokey/jacob shit"

the smokey/jacob shit was probably the best anti-religious propaganda I've seen on TV, especially when couched in a show that has crazy new age unitarian stained glass windows.

xp to n/a - ^^another good example of where the claim that it's all about the characters falls really flat.

x-post And, like, menorahs and Buddhas as shit. But also of course a giant Jesus and a dude named Christian Shepherd that shows them the way to heaven.

turns out that there are a lot of people who thought the ending was--im gagging here--like, SPIRITUAL, and BEAUTIFUL and, christ, MEANINGFUL

Some of those gawker comments were genuinely lolarious, like Nicholas Sparks mini-novellas.

Ben finally got to be special, which is all he ever really wanted. It's pretty sad.

x-post And, like, menorahs and Buddhas as shit. But also of course a giant Jesus and a dude named Christian Shepherd that shows them the way to heaven.

Yeah, I thought they made a really half-hearted effort at saying, "Oh, no, no, no. This isn't a Christian thing. They're not necessarily going to heaven. Didn't you see the yin yang?"

Still not sure how Ben ended up as a sort-of good guy again at the end after agreeing to help Smokey and shooting Widmore. I guess none of the other Losties knew he shot Widmore so he's just not going to tell anyone and let them assume he was on their side the whole time?

yeah that was weird - he's holding sawyer at gunpoint and then like 15 minutes later it's all "oh no ben is stuck under a tree branch we have to save him" and then he's a good guy. odd that they ended a character who basically drove the show for 2.5 seasons on such an incoherent note.

ya the ecumenical stained glass window was pathetic

"This isn't a Christian thing."
except for sayid, everyone at the church party are catholics, right? was totally expecting camera to pan to re-frocked Mr. Eko delivering a sermon.

i thought that window was awesome -- did you miss the polar bear on it?

so did anyone think, as Smokey lay dying on the rocks and it cut to Locke coming out of surgery in the alt, that Locke was going to be EVIL and kill them all in the alt? I might have actually liked that, too.

I don't think I'm getting enough props here for predicting this ending two years ago, either. (In a way...)

As soon as Christian started talking to Jack I totally predicted that someone would walk through a door into golden light as well (ask my husband).

Driveshaft plus Farraday music was god awful. I'd hate the show now just for making me listen to that.

that might have been the single dumbest idea of the entire series. who the hell wanted to see that? in heaven daniel the scientest is a prog rocker! ???????? in heaven ALL your secret wishes can come true!