Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I really hated everything about this last season when I think about it.

What I loved about the show was that there seemed to be a huge, convoluted system of some sort in place on the island, how it worked, how some people could get on and off the island and others couldn't, how these different opposing groups came to exist there and what their motivations were. There was more than enough to work with there to have the last season not necessarily explain every minute detail but to at least resolve a lot of the intertwinedness of everything in a satisfactory manner. But instead we got a bunch of new characters and side plots and other things that were all for nothing, and existing plot points were ignored or glossed over to focus on...something, I guess. Whatever that something was is absolutely not interesting to me.

I'm just glad they introduced the whole Temple thing this season. At first I thought that spending multiple episodes on it might be a bit wasteful, but the role that it played in the finale made it all worth it.

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PSYCH!

has any show ever satisfyingly resolved a series long enigma? Cuz the x-files and heroes sure as shit didn't.

i thought this was fine but then again i don't really care.

"This was fine but then again I don't really care" should be slapped on the DVD box.

The finale, or the series?

― mh, 24 May 2010 14:59

The series, really- but given that that would be spoiler-tastic i'll settle for the answer Jenny gave iatee above.

I'm still hoping that they get round to season 2 of John Doe, really. There was a show with potential

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_5gW6OiFwD2U/RnA6dvgL2tI/AAAAAAAAAZw/9rBv_sRWsRI/s400/annie.jpg

back when i scoffed at lost, before i got drawn into it, i was all "this is going to be just as unsatisfying as the x-files, just u wait and see"

i should have listened...

to MYSELF

:(

maybe the worst part of this was having my assumption that everyone on the planet hated this episode and the love square and all the awful bullshit in the show as much as i did

turns out that there are a lot of people who thought the ending was--im gagging here--like, SPIRITUAL, and BEAUTIFUL and, christ, MEANINGFUL

ya i've been afraid to look up what people on the internet thought of this shit

I'm getting really annoyed about what Scott pointed out upthread-- Smokey has to unplug the Indiana Jones Stopper to leave the island, but doing so makes him mortal & just a dude, so WHO THE F CARES if he gets out into the world? Unless the stopper-pulling was a big fatal miscalc on Smokey's part, but it didn't play like it was.

The bomb sort of mattered. It stabilized the timeshifts iirc. That's fine.

And yeah it super bothered me that Jack didn't say the little incantation over the magic bottle of water, or do ANYTHING besides just hand it over to Hurley. He could have at least recited some Hippocrates.

That being said, Hurley ending up the new guardian w/Ben as his Alpert was one of the few things I really dug and I would probably dig some unambitious plot-driven Hugo And Ben Protecting The Magic Island shit with lots of done-in-ones and significant guest actors.

Want to forget the whole alt-purgatory thing as fast as I can, that was seriously one of the biggest blunders i have ever witnessed in serial narrative entertainment.

The bomb sort of mattered. It stabilized the timeshifts iirc. That's fine.

yeah I guess it did end the plot arc of s5 and kick them from 1977 into the present. but had nothing to do w/ the alt.

would probably dig some unambitious plot-driven Hugo And Ben Protecting The Magic Island shit

I want to see the series about 400-year-old Alpert adjusting to modern L.A. it's like "Encino Man" with eyeliner

Max, do you think that SPIRITUAL and BEAUTIFUL and MEANINGFUL are bad and stupid things to shoot for, or that the Lost producers just failed in their attempt?

I'm not sure that smokey realized that unplugging the magic island light/lava clogger would make him mortal. When he first starting bleeding he looked startled at the sight of his own blood.

I think "destroying the island" may have been his fatal act of hubris or something. maybe if he didn't unplug the light he could have escaped.

Max, do you think that SPIRITUAL and BEAUTIFUL and MEANINGFUL are bad and stupid things to shoot for, or that the Lost producers just failed in their attempt?

― Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, May 24, 2010 12:17 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

imo i don't think those things are bad, but that they failed.

and that a lot of people can get conned into thinking that spiritual automatically = meaningful

best episode of the season!

this whole season has been completely horrible but the finale wasn't that bad, could've been worse

xxpost dmr Hmm ok that makes it kind of cool if viewed in that way. I'm down with fatal acts of hubris.

Not that they did a good job of bringing that across. It was more just chaos. Locke: You were wrong! Jack: You were wrong too!

could they have shown this ending after season 4 and cut out all the smokey/jacob shit

Hurley must have had a pretty peaceful reign as protector of the island, given that the main threat to the island - smokey - was dead!

The stained glass with a handful of religious symbols really was the nadir of the episode.

yeah seriously what did him and ben do for 1000 years

could they have shown this ending after season 4 and cut out all the smokey/jacob shit

that's basically what I just told a friend to do who's never seen the show and was like "should I watch?" go up thru s4 and then skip to the finale

^ otm which is funny because i liked the little poster of Krsna on the wall and the seated buddhas and whatnot but I guess without the stained glass one person might not have got it what can u do right?

They should have let Drive Shaft play "You All Everybody" one last time.

ha I was so relieved they hardly played any of Daniel + Drive Shaft's revolutionary combination of classical music and hard rock

Holy shit, that and Christian talking to Jack. It would have been cooler if it was just his funeral, and Jack did a little speech about learning to be a leader interspersed with the footage of him watching the plane fly over.

Hurley must have had a pretty peaceful reign as protector of the island, given that the main threat to the island - smokey - was dead!

So you would think, but you haven't reckoned with the menace of special guest Tim Roth as ruthless oil magnate Silas Badrock!

Hurley must have had a pretty peaceful reign as protector of the island, given that the main threat to the island - smokey - was dead!

― it makes sense......................................does it to you? (Z S),

Yeah, his only job, really, was to get Desmond home to Penny somehow. I wonder if ABC is going to try to squeeze some more blood out of this turnip by doing a season of Hurley-Ben-Desmond.

xpost hahahaha

(already thinking up plot pitches for when IDW scores the Hurley/Ben comics franchise)

My version: don't have Christian be alive, Jack's speech is basically "we've had the opportunity to remake our lives, but have the gift of remembering. Now let's live life"

anyhoo it wasn't great by any stretch but i'm weirdly and unexpectedly satisfied. jacob fucked up, badly and repeatedly. and the Source of Everything needed a hard reboot, and this was the story of how that happened.

and once it did, none of the rabbinical details around who gets to do what to whom or what bearing Jacob once decreed was required to leave the island or etc etc applied any more. Hugo gets to rewrite the OS, just like the bird told him to.

wish they'd managed to tell this exact story at higher quality (e.g. agreed that the "John Locke Was Right" scene should have resonated, as just one example of thousands), and it's maybe not the story I would have told, but I'm not angry any more.

has any show ever satisfyingly resolved a series long enigma? Cuz the x-files and heroes sure as shit didn't.

Yeah, but the LOST producers arranged a finite end for their series. That is what makes the generally lazy writing of season 6 pretty unforgiveable. Well, lazy in the context of the rest of the series. Most of s6 had an internal logic unto itself, but it was pretty unsatisfying as a resolution to the series as a whole.

If my girlfriend is still up for watching LOST eventually, I think I'm gonna suggest to her that the s5 finale makes for a better (if more nihilistic) wrap-up.

So, is there a Twin Peaks style movie needed to tie up loose ends?

no

Also, I guess they decided to go whole-hog with the Stephen King/The Stand homage and show that they didn't know how to stop the damn thing once they got it rolling downhill.

i'm weirdly and unexpectedly satisfied

I think "could've been worse" is about as far as I'm willing to go.

the Twin Peaks movie didn't tie up loose ends!

Max, do you think that SPIRITUAL and BEAUTIFUL and MEANINGFUL are bad and stupid things to shoot for, or that the Lost producers just failed in their attempt?

― Grisly Addams (WmC), Monday, May 24, 2010 12:17 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think these are awesome things to shoot for! but i think that when you fail, you tend to fail pretty spectacularly

snoop dogg's take on the finale is actually pretty good

i think these are awesome things to shoot for! but i think that when you fail, you tend to fail pretty spectacularly

― max, Monday, May 24, 2010 11:40 AM (27 seconds ago)

ok, cool -- it just seemed like you were sneering at the idea of even making the attempt -- my bad if I misinterpreted that

no, sorry, not at all

It bums me out that they didn't have the guts to actually give anyone an unhappy ending.

Sayid ending up with Shannon while Boone hangs out unattended is total bullshit. I mean, clearly Shannon is not the love of Sayid's life. That part was so ugh.

How come John doesn't care about his fiance? How come Ben doesn't want to go to real heaven? I don't get it.

Also, for a show that has spent so much time talking about babies and and fertility, all those plots turned out to be a huge waste of time and energy.

its tv

they just put stuff in there and I watched it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKyjeRodd4