Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Was the last shot that came after the eye closing the show's way of saying, "Oh by the way: everyone on the plane died"? Is that what happened there?

The plane piloted by Lapidus with Sawyer and company, I mean.

with the credits rolling? dunno, impossible to tell, more ambiguity crap. I thought it was the old 815 wreckage but maybe not. I was looking for something, anything in that final shot but didn't see it on first viewing.

Kate's "I've missed you" to Jack seemed to imply that she had lived on for a while though. But frankly, none of this made much sense.

this was shit shit shit

holy shit this was shit

like if they really wanted to do a bullshit "they're in heaven now" thing, they could have done it in ONE episode, not the whole damn season

and like jon said upthread, it had nothing to do with ANYTHING... literally this ending could have been stuck on any show, diff'rent strokes, manimal, third watch, and it would have been just as appropriate

this worked as a conclusion for the storylines in S6, but not the whole show. it was like the writers thought "everyone liked it when Desmond and Penny were tearfully reunited, we'll just do that for two and a half hours."

Yeah, like, I don't want to ride this train too much, but jesus, this was a whoooooole lot of "the pretty white straight people get to make out again! YAAAAY!"

I'm sure you could have watched this episode without seeing most of the show and pretty much understood it, which is do doubt what they intended. The thought of re-watching any of it now is pretty laughable.

if they were all going to hang out together again in a slow-mo montage at least make it on the beach or something and not in a fuckin church

not to nit-pick on things they didn't explain, cuz im fine with leaving a lot of mysterious stuff, but what the hell is supposed to be the deal with the whole nuke detonation thing? like, did it do anything or not?

is it just supposed to have been a big red herring?

I think that setting off the nuke created heaven?

Which is kind of an irresponsible message if you think about it.

there is more garbage being written on the internet trying to defend this horseshit than any garbage thats ever been written

are people actually into this

I can hear my neighbor watching this through the walls. She's around the part where the plane is about to take off, and I'm just thinking "god, she is about 10 minutes from being as disappointed as I am right now. I should knock on her door, tell her to quit while she's ahead."

Ok so did this show really just devolve into happy endings for everyone? Why bother with making emotionally powerful Juliet/Quon/Locke deaths and then make none of them matter?

haha i think its spelled kwon but i like your spelling a lot more

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I'm looking forward to the last episode - Jack alone in his apartment staring wistfully into the mirror, whispering "Sometimes, I don't know why, I just need you guys... all of you!" and then he sees Ben appear in the mirror who says "You do? Well why didn't you say so!" and then he turns around and all the Flight 815ers and Others and freighties and Vincent and Smoke Monster are there dancing and having a massive party, Sayid doing the robot, Nikki and Paolo high-fiving, everyone being great friends etc etc.
If this doesn't happen I will be disappointed.

I think I nailed it.

^ that was the ending of Labyrinth btw. The island falling into the sea was reminiscent of Neverending Story. What movie was it from where they say something like "go on in, they're waiting for you" like Christian did there?

so basically you have to protect the island from...your evil twin brother who wouldn't have been evil at all if the earlier island protector hadn't been a jackass.

how do you protect it, well don't let your brother...put out the light...by taking out the big stone plug...but if you do that...make sure you put it back in, like, twenty minutes or so...then it'll be fine...

also why didn't frogurt get into heaven with them, is it because no one loved him

how do you protect it, well don't let your brother...put out the light...by taking out the big stone plug...but if you do that...make sure you put it back in, like, twenty minutes or so...then it'll be fine...

― wtf why are there vampires in forever 21 (reddening), Monday, May 24, 2010 2:54 AM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark

tbh i had seen minimal amounts of lost but i was watching bits of it tonight just so i could even reasonably attempt to follow all the forthcoming chatter about it, but was this scene(s) as bad and stupid to fans as it looked to me? felt like i was watching some late 90s indiana jones rip off or something

yeah it looked like they filmed it in the indiana jones ride at disneyland.

the existence and purpose of this big stone plug that has alternately golden light or hellish lava underneath it is...bewildering.

So is the heaven-in-the-church thing happening years later, after Hurley and Ben have hung out on the island that Jack saved for many years (and maybe handed off to another candidate)... and Lapidus flew a bunch of those guys off the island and they led full lives, then died... and after everyone in the church died?

The island never really sank? Jughead detonating didn't actually do anything (besides lead to Juliet's death)? What were the criteria for ending up in the church at the end? (Obviously there are certain actors they couldn't/didn't want to get, but if Penny was there why couldn't Eko, Nikki & Paolo, Walt, etc. etc. be there?)

There was a lot I didn't get, I think.

why did Frank etc think they could fly off the island without the special bearings? I assumed their appearance in the church meant they didn't make it, which I'd quite like actually.

I was actually really enjoying the first half of this, but then everything on-island became so...casual... sort of off-the-cuff.
Whoever said this was a good ending to s6 only, OTM - I feel like that's the end of s6 but now I want to go back to our regularly-scheduled LOST :(

Also why did Kate change out of her party dress and into the green silk shirt before ascending?

ugh gawker thread of lost apologists is the worst.

like i can accept sepinwall's review because it walks the line between "i enjoyed seeing all the characters reunited" and "many of the important plot points weren't satisfactorily addressed." but this bullshit refrain of "you don't DESERVE answers, if you thought you were going to get any answers you were watching the WRONG SHOW" is some stockholm syndrome shit.

it's unusual in a consensual hereafter to have the viewer get a free view around the world to see stuff not being looked at by the protagonsists.

LIKE THE SUNKEN ISLAND RIGHT AT THE START OF THE SERIES

seems like the bomb + magnetism did = time travel and there's an end to it.

seemed less robbed when ashes to ashes did this ending 2 days ago.

why did Frank etc think they could fly off the island without the special bearings? I assumed their appearance in the church meant they didn't make it, which I'd quite like actually.

I don't think so, I interpreted it as this:

So is the heaven-in-the-church thing happening years later, after Hurley and Ben have hung out on the island that Jack saved for many years (and maybe handed off to another candidate)... and Lapidus flew a bunch of those guys off the island and they led full lives, then died

the show "ended" on Jack's death but there was a bunch of other stuff we didn't see

so yeah why was the island underwater in purgatory again? even two-thirds of the way through the finale I was like "wow this is pretty sappy" but certain scenes were effective, like Charlie/Claire .... but then instead of an actual alternate reality that the h-bomb made possible, the alt timeline is some big metaphysical happy-place they all went to?

i'm pretty unimpressed with the howls of THAT NEEDS EXPLAINING. But, and this is a BIG but, you can't show people a mysteriously sunk island and not expect them to expect you are going to explain that. there is just no explanation for that initial 'hey look at this, ooooOOo'

tbh "they set off a bomb and it created an alternate reality" would've been a terrible stupid explanation too, don't know why everyone was so set on that panning out, by comparison i don't mind what they did that much.

i guess they were deliberately running viewer expectations against themselves 'oho an alternative reality you say, let's play the game of how these worlds are different'. ok, sort of cool. like the way the flashforward switch worked, but hyper.

in the end they're saying, all that tricksiness we played for hours on end, stuff happening for reasons, doesn't matter. it's about tearful reunions, and emotion in the afterlife.

ok. got you.

xpost- would have made more sense than "an h-bomb created heaven" unless we're saying that the bomb didn't do anything, in which case seasons 5 *and* 6 were pointless?

when this ended last night I thought "didn't hate this, could have been worse" but the more I think about it the worse it seems

pretty much agree w/ this --> I don't think that I'm actually mad, just wondering what happened over the last year that made all the stuff I liked about the show not matter to the writers anymore.

xpost- would have made more sense than "an h-bomb created heaven" unless we're saying that the bomb didn't do anything, in which case seasons 5 *and* 6 were pointless?

― dmr, Monday, May 24, 2010 7:04 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's exactly it imo

I dunno, them saying the alt was "the place you all made," I thought it was because of the bomb. who knows

so much of the stuff they actually did show seemed anticlimactic. seriously, that was the smokemonster's death scene? deserved more tbh. (and yeah, to someone's point upthread I think when they turned off the light of the island it turned off his smokey-powers so he was just mortal again and kate could shoot him)

i took that in a "heaven is what you make it to be in your mind" kinda thing. why would "the place you all made" be a reference to a small handful of the people present did?

a reference to a THING that a small handful etc.

took that in a "heaven is what you make it to be in your mind" kinda thing

yeah you're probably right. pretty lame.

and in their mind, the island is underwater

Harold Perrineau and his son don't deserve heaven.

The debate about whether this ending or Battlestars is truly the biggest piece of shit begins now (I say this).

I don't know that this was the best ending this show could've had, but within the context of this season, I think this episode was pretty good and entertaining. Maybe because I was watching it with a bunch of other people, but I laughed quite a bit and teared up nearly every time the sideways characters had an island flash (esp. Sawyer and Juliet). Felt like a satisfying way to send it out -- not because it answered unresolved mysteries or even really made coherent sense, but it reminded me of what I've liked about the show over the last six years.

(I don't mean that what I liked about the show was the character relationships rather than the mysteries/mythology, just that the episode had a nice elegiac feel that made me feel fondly about the show in general.)

i09 nails it, I think. The ending means that nothing at all mattered, ever, and it never had a story, it was all just stuff that happened.

http://io9.com/5545911/lost-was-the-ultimate-long-con