V For Vendetta: The Movie

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Moore has totally disavowed this movie and has tried to get his name off of it. Also donating all his personal profits from the film to the artist of the comic book. Just, y'know, for the record...

For the record, he's been doing this wrt film projects for 10 years.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Admittedly though those film projects have pretty much sucked.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

Though I haven't seen it, I understand that From Hell is an alright movie. Just a lousy From Hell adaptation. LXG is perhaps the worst film I've ever seen.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:48 (twenty years ago)

From Hell is not an alright movie.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

Esp. when consider it's relation to the source material.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

I don't know the source material, I just know it was a rotten film.

There was an interesting feature on V for Vendetta in Vanity Fair last month.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 February 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Excerpts here

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 February 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Moore's work towers over the crappy movie adaptations, and I have every reason to believe this will continue to be the case for a long time to come.

From Hell is an okay film. LXG is unwatchable.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 February 2006 22:42 (twenty years ago)

For the record, he's been doing this wrt film projects for 10 years

For the record, this is the first film project he's done this with.

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 11 February 2006 01:52 (twenty years ago)

It absolutely isn't. There's a bit in that interview with Stewart Lee where he mentions that after LXG he decided to give his monies for these things to the artists and get his name taken off, and within 3 days people attempted to give him cash/sign him up for Constantine & Watchmen & V.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 11 February 2006 02:30 (twenty years ago)

LXG != ten years ago. And it wasn't after the film, it was after the deposition he had to give when two screenwriters accused Fox (?) of ripping off their Cast Of Characters screenplay, and said that the comic had been done in order to cover the studio's tracks. So it's been less than two years, and V was the first project to start up since then - he diverted money on Constantine, but V escalated things with the press conference where Joel Silver stated that Moore was very excited about the screenplay and they were looking forward to getting him to contribute. When Warners refused to issue a retraction he spat the bigger dummy, walked from Wildstorm, etc. His name was actually on early V publicity/posters, but has disappeared since (to be replaced by a multi-factually-incorrect credit!).

― kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 11 February 2006 04:26 (twenty years ago)

just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean it won't be good.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 11 February 2006 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Alan Moore is essentially a formalist, and the long literary forms he employs don't adapt well to two-hour screenplays -- it's almost that simple. Structural issues aside, I agree with kyle that just because Moore doesn't like it doesn't mean it won't be good, but then again, it might be an altogether different story the way the Wachoeski Bros. tell it.

― elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Saturday, 11 February 2006 09:17 (twenty years ago)

This bit from the Hollywood Reporter review sounds interesting:

If the film's look and feel refuse to flee from the real world, its dialogue takes every chance to connect to it. We are told about the recent past, that "America's war grew worse and worse, and eventually came to London." Hot-button terms like "rendition" are sprinkled about; dissidents are handled as in a third-world dictatorship; and our hero (who calls himself V) lectures citizens who have surrendered their liberties to a government that promised to protect them from terrorism.

So it looks like the "what if Nazis won WWII" story might not be the basis for the film after all. If they've actually tried to make the films future sort of a logic continuation of today's situation (just like the comic was), that should prove interesting. Also, the word "terrorist" was used right in the trailer - so if this film actually tries comment on the current world politics too, I think that'd be a better approach than to try to adapt Moore's obsolete dystopy of the early eighties down to every detail. Then again, perhaps I'm placing too much trust on the Wachowski Bros. screenwriting abilities.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Saturday, 11 February 2006 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Here's what happened, fan kiddies. Alan Moore has never wanted his name associated with any movie adaptation, ever, because he himself would never sell the movie rights to his comics, but as is almost always the case, he does not own the rights to his comics. The reason "V for Vendetta" was a bigger deal was because someone at DC was trying to associate Moore's name with the project ("Alan Moore is very excited about this project") when he knew that Moore would shit. And shit he did -- he left DC. Now, this has nothing to do with the quality of the "V for Vendetta" movie, it's just the principle of the thing.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 11 February 2006 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Joel Silver isn't an employee of DC, and Alan and Eddie own the rights to From Hell.

― kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 12 February 2006 03:02 (twenty years ago)

I just wanted to share this awesome picture of Alan Moore from Wikipedia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/38/Alanmoore.jpg

I hope your days have been brightened.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, 12 February 2006 05:28 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream last night where I went to see this movie and it had a viking in it that kept saying "wendetta." I walked out.

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:02 (twenty years ago)

the comic book is terrible. jackoff material for faux-revolutionary male teens

the end

― älänbänänä (alanbanana), Sunday, 12 February 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Alan and Eddie own the rights to From Hell

And League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Why so patronising and so wrong, Kenan?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 12 February 2006 18:15 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

psyched

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Friday, 3 March 2006 12:38 (twenty years ago)

I thought it looked worth seeing -- good action combined with balls enough to actually make thinly-veiled criticism of the war on terror. Never read the comics though.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:14 (twenty years ago)

i read the comic in the summer, just after the bombs -- the first page itself documented exactly what it felt like. it's not a masterpiece, and filmmakers shouldn't feel any obligation to replicate source materials. i thought 'from hell' was a pretty good film.

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:20 (twenty years ago)

My desire to see this has been stoked after reading James Wolcott's weirdly gushing review of it.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Frankly that's an unsettling image.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Should I have said "knob-slobbing"?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:18 (twenty years ago)

In case anyone's interested, here's the Vanity Fair piece about V is for Vendetta that I mentioned above:

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― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, no "is". I keep doing that.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:45 (twenty years ago)

Is that from the current issue, with Johannson and Knightley draped over some dude in a suit?

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:54 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, Alba.

xp - that's Tom Ford!

― Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:54 (twenty years ago)

Wait, it's NOT based on a Sue Grafton novel?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:55 (twenty years ago)

haha

― Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Saturday, 4 March 2006 00:56 (twenty years ago)

No, it's from last month's issue, with Lindsay Lohan wearing a bikini and admitting she has a problem.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)

Oh, the wife has that at home!

― Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:05 (twenty years ago)

"i have that under the pillow"

― gear (gear), Saturday, 4 March 2006 01:48 (twenty years ago)

so what's the deal with the director of this movie, does he exist or not?

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:12 (twenty years ago)

he does but you never see his face.

― antexit (antexit), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Any other pictures of Moore?

― def zep (calstars), Sunday, 5 March 2006 01:28 (twenty years ago)

In other VfV news, the director of photography died of a heart attack back in December.

― Yes, well, Sunday, 5 March 2006 02:25 (twenty years ago)

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00161/Alan-Moore_161668a.jpg

― kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 5 March 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

the Guardian are displaying Lloyd's original art for Vendetta in it's lobby from the 7th to the 17th march. 10-5 weekdays, 12-4 saturdays.

― koogs (koogs), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:44 (twenty years ago)

My basic reaction: Holy shit. Wow. Two anti-fascist moltov cocktails up.

Really--if Lindsay Anderson made a guilt-wracked, *really* angry socialist action movie, this would be it.

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:42 (twenty years ago)

lindsay is from my ends, and i rep him for life, but if he asked, i'd tell him not to branch out into dystopian sci-fi. not sure it'd really be playing to his strengths...

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Hahahahah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Moore looks like Flex Mentallo up there.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Kenan is a great dumbass on this thread.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

Do I even have to write what I was going to write? Probably not.

― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if I trust all the reviews that I've seen so far; I reread the comic this weekend and I think, yes, this could actually work, unlike From Hell and LOEG, which were both mishandled to fuck, but VFV DOES seem like Wachowski material; I think Natalie Portman is totally stupid and not hot at all, though, whether or not that is a problem I guess we'll see. This is a film I am more apprehensive about than stoked. Bonus points if they slip Bauhaus in the OST.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Major points redacted if the closing tune is performed by a reformed Rage Against the Machine, however.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

uh, deducted I mean. Let me redact that last verb....

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

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