Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

they did link it, didn't they?
the light thing that made smokey is the same thing that desmond has to press the button to keep from exploding, but it didn't kill him when it did explode because he's immune to it (and therefore immune to smokey? but not so immune that he can't get shoved down wells)

One of my favourite smokey moments is when he got Richard Alpert then the next scene showed Fake Locke walking out from behind a house, probably straightening his shirt or something, just like when Superman turns back into Clark Kent.

I'm kinda ashamed to admit that I actually spent about 30 seconds thinking about how when he transforms back into Flocke he's still carrying objects and figured Smokey just did a kind of loop and finished back where he was when he downed weapons to transform.

well i'm guessing the way to "kill" smokey is to get him into something like that mega magnet chamber desmond got trapped in?

why does he do what he does, it's not even clear why he kills people

because if he doesn't kill them he can't leave

If Smokey can assume the form of a human body, couldn't he also assume the form of clothes, knives, backpacks, etc. that go along with one? Not really much to think about here.

he's "stuck" in that form, apparently. So he needs a smoke-satchell the carry the rest of his non-form junk. He probably is getting dressed behind those houses!

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I'm just saying he assumes the form of the figure completely. He was wearing MiB's rag clothes, even though MiB's corpse was still clothed.

Although, now that I think about it, Locke was wearing a full suit in the coffin, but Smokey is dressed like "island" Locke. So who the fuck knows.

There was no explanation for why the Oceanic 6 had to bring Dead Locke back to island when they returned, was there?

Just that they all had to make the trip together.

body had to be on the island for MIB to take it's form, just like with jack's dad.

So was it Smokey or Jacob working through Eloise that brought them back?

Probably Smokey, given how Jacob is all, "if you don't want to be candidate, that's cool and all, I'll just get some more losers up in this crib."

Okay, so now it really doesn't make sense. Smokey brought them all back, including dead Locke, so he could kill Jacob and then kill all of them so he can leave? Why didn't Smokey just con someone in the others camp or even Rose or Bernard?

Smokey: Kill this guy and you'll be left alone forever.
Rose: Alright.

ya didnt smokey basically manipulate everyone via ben

i was gonna say that but didn't smokey say something about locke's body being conveniently on the island etc, as if he had nothing to do with it.

There's no credible way they can explain a big cloud of angry black smoke that kills people. There never has been. From the second it appeared it was obvious this was going to be mystical bollocks from then on in, I can't believe people are only just getting annoyed about it now.

^YES!

So why is Smokey stuck in that form now? Because Jacob's finally dead? That doesn't make sense, if all it takes to replace Jacob is drinking to magical creek water.

"mystical bollocks" can be done right

epic fail here

yeah exactly...nobody's looking for exact science, it's not even "mystical bollocks", they haven't actually even tried to explain anything whatsoever, they said "he went into a cave and came out a smoke monster that then wanted to kill everyone"

ffs raise your standards

the stuff with him taking over locke's body etc was quite cool, as was all the smokey stuff up until this series, hence the disappointment. if it was bound to be shit it'd have been shit the instant he was introduced. you'd swear any non scientifically logical storyline in history was by nature bound to be as shit as "he went into a cave and came out as some smoke that kills people"

"he went into a cave and came out a smoke monster that then wanted to kill everyone"

im ok with this

but i would have liked to know more, espesh about what the consequences are of it escaping

and why jacob chose these six people in particular, how he was able to know who to touch

and some other things

billions of other things...they had four seasons and knew when the show was ending and they pissed half it against the wall making up bullshit WAU moments that never actually led anywhere or made any sense and ultimately all contradicted each other. this generated excitement but they've conclusively failed to prove they ever had any fucking idea of or plan for most of the main plotlines of the entire six seasons.

But... THE SKELETONS!

DO U SEE?

yeah that whole "the skeletons will prove we always knew where we were going", lol@that. the skeletons whose identity we can decide at any point will prove we always knew where we were going.

haha i'd love to see you guys rip shit apart at bible study.

I used to do that before I stopped going to church altogether.

the bible isn't supposed to be entertainment, is it?

I guess not, but parts of it are about as narratively sound as Lost.

Complaining about bad writing is a totally different thing to going 'OMG I can't believe we're never going to get an explanation for this" when there's a whole episode to go and it's one of the biggest mysteries in the whole thing.

which mystery are we talking about?

The food drops. Stay with us!!!

What Smokey is, was my assumption.

At least wait until the series is over before complaining they've dicked us over for answers.

all will be explained in the books

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H6XCT469L._SS500_.jpg

"parts of it are about as narratively sound as Lost."

Lost very smartly waits till last season for the origin story. Bible fucks it up in season one. Also, Bible never explains where the Others come from.

Admittedly virtually every answer we've been given so far this year has been k-lame but you never know, we might get lucky against all logic.

I think that the Bible holds together way better narratively than Lost, and the writers probably were paid a lot worse too.

there are lots of different versions of the bible

it's all in our hands what 'lost' is

maybe we should begin to decide which scenes from lost are actually 'canon'

probably would read Lost graphic novel - for better dialogue

don't tell me what I can't BIFF!

Jacob and his twin brother, Esau...

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xpost it was bible Jacob who had to wrestle an angel in order to lead some ppl across a river right?

I bet they could drown the smoke monster

seems he came out of water tho. maybe he has to be chucked back into the same cave (sure why not).

maybe he goes back into the cave and animals eat rope