DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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Blond woman next to la Allsop looks like John Major in bad drag.

cleggaeton (suzy), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

Big Society Eric

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 13:52 (sixteen years ago)

Is that a Post Office?

They're very good at gimmicks this lot aren't they, red tape to-day, Cameron walking to Parliament yesterday, tomorrow Clarkson hacking down a speed camera on the A1.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:25 (sixteen years ago)

I think it's something to do with getting rid of HIPs - the red tape surrounding selling your house. Either that or it's was a giant house-shaped cake.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

So basically we're back at a situation where every single buyer has to get their own searches etc done for each property, well done everybody.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

By the way, well done to the kids at City & Islington College, just along from my gaff, for booing the Traitor Clegg yesterday

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

i used to live right opposite!

show me your buccina (ken c), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, I figured as much what with the fragrant Allsop there, that was her thing. I suppose now they've done it she's redundant, except as Lords fodder.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

xp

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:44 (sixteen years ago)

More New Politics in action, fix the House of Commons, fix the House of Lords, fuck up your backbenchers

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 15:50 (sixteen years ago)

Before we get to the foxes, the badgers are going to get it.

carson dial, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:02 (sixteen years ago)

that was already happening:

this govt orders badger culls!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/16/badger-cull-wales-challenge-rejected

― all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:56 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:08 (sixteen years ago)

This Government has a lovely Rapist's Charter

when the fertilizer hits the ventilator (suzy), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

xp - but they're extending the cull into England - there's no escape for badgers this time!

carson dial, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:11 (sixteen years ago)

Why can't we just cull the Welsh?

Honestly, if the Tories are looking for something to privatise, Wales would be a good place to start.

The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

ok, so it's not ok to call diane abbott an idiot, but...

long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

Sorry, wrong forum. Forgot the Welsh thing isn't a running joke here. ::rolls eyes::

The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

Dunno if we've talked about it here, but there are already questions being asked about Caroline Spelman's impartiality. Won't be surprised if she is presiding over the Department of Keeping Farmers Happy:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/15/caroline-spelman-environment-lobbying-defra-food-agriculture-politics

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

srsly considering just pretending that parliament doesn't exist for the foreseeable future

nakhchivan, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

"We will be strong in defence of freedom. The Government believes that the British state has become too authoritarian, and that over the past decade it has abused and eroded fundamental human freedoms and historic civil liberties. We need to restore the rights of individuals in the face of encroaching state power, in keeping with Britain’s tradition of freedom and fairness."

lol at reading the coalition's propaganda document and thinking "fuck yeah".

Thaksin Albert Shinawatra (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

basically most of the section on civil liberties is awesome. let's see if they deliver on it.

Thaksin Albert Shinawatra (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

Or let's see if the first thing they do is give more power to the police and stop you drinking lat at night?

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

Drinking "lattes at night" that should have said, obviously.

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:26 (sixteen years ago)

... and fix the House of Commons and House of Lords so you can't get rid of them (even though no-one voted for them) and muzzle any backbench dissent

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:26 (sixteen years ago)

nanny state sez no caffeine b4 beddybyes

nakhchivan, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:27 (sixteen years ago)

nanny state otm tbf

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

way to pretend any of the things you're mentioning are even in the same league as the erosion of civil liberties under labour guys.

Thaksin Albert Shinawatra (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

Fixing parliament isn't a biggie to you?

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm, let's think about which geniuses introduced the Criminal Justice Bill...

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

Fixing parliament isn't a biggie to you?

the 55% thing is bullshit but it doesn't really rate up there with being able to arrest people and detain them for a month without any justification.

Thaksin Albert Shinawatra (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:40 (sixteen years ago)

the civil liberties infractions of labour were a disgrace and all the more for the needlessness and expense, i still hate that succession of home secretaries more than any of the nu tory shits

cancelling things like id cards is great but it will be more telling to see what theresa may does about that autistic hacker whose extradition has been postponed, ie where there is an adversary to withstand (in this instance american prosecutors/political pressure)

the nonreciprocal extradition treaty w/ america was possibly the single most venal and disgraceful (if rather minor) shit that the last govt did

nakhchivan, Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

We'll see what happens when the Chief Constables start bleating

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:44 (sixteen years ago)

I'm certain the Lib Dems are in favour of civil liberties, but past experience with Tory governments leads me to be wary of them on that score

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm, let's think about which geniuses introduced the Criminal Justice Bill...

― Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:34 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

tbrr both parties have been equally authoritarian over the last 40-odd years

(had to research the 'sus' laws &c the other day and labour did not come out smelling of anything nice.)

long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

Correction: past experience with governments leads me to be wary on that score

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm, let's think about which geniuses introduced the Criminal Justice Bill...

as opposed to the geniuses who made the definition of a "rave" that can be dispersed by the police a gathering of 20 people as opposed to 100 as set out in the Criminal Justice Bill.

Thaksin Albert Shinawatra (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 20 May 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

did they keep the part about "repetitive beats"?

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

They amended it to "anything Gier wouldn't like"

he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves (snoball), Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:12 (sixteen years ago)

Are the LibCons repealing the Criminal Justice Bill?

Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 20 May 2010 17:37 (sixteen years ago)

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when the fertilizer hits the ventilator (suzy), Thursday, 20 May 2010 18:16 (sixteen years ago)

The Coalition: Our Programme For Government

2.4.1 For example, when you take Conservative plans to strengthen families and encourage social responsibility, and add to them the Liberal Democrat passion for protecting our civil liberties and stopping the relentless incursion of the state into the lives of individuals, you create a Big Society matched by big citizens.

I feel like I'm about to cry

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:09 (sixteen years ago)

No room for big girls' blouses.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:11 (sixteen years ago)

Not only are there no concrete plans to tackle the obesity problem, they actively seem to be encouraging it

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

2.4.1 For example, when you take Conservative plans to strengthen families and encourage social responsibility, and add to them the Liberal Democrat passion for protecting our civil liberties and stopping the relentless incursion of the state into the lives of individuals

Throw in a handful of tarragon, and you've got a big bowl of fragrant bullshit!

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:13 (sixteen years ago)

The plan is, make the majority thin, lean, fit.

Then the leftover fatties can be in CHARGE!!

Mark G, Friday, 21 May 2010 10:14 (sixteen years ago)

xpost Hey, and should the Conservatives earn a majority after the next election, they may well make aNOTHER coalition govt, it was so good last time!

Mark G, Friday, 21 May 2010 10:15 (sixteen years ago)

Watch for Lynne Featherstone to become agitated about simple things that trigger obesity, like certain food ingredients and bovine growth hormone, for example. I don't know if they will get a bill through, but she seemed like she was planning a shot at it.

when the fertilizer hits the ventilator (suzy), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:15 (sixteen years ago)

Lynne Featherweight can try all she likes but the Coalition wants Big Citizens, Big Big Big Big Big Big Big

Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:19 (sixteen years ago)

a Big Society matched by big citizens.

this is just

long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:19 (sixteen years ago)

Every time I read any of this "Big Society" thing I think of "Fourth Sector Pathfinder Initiative" except we've got Big People doing Big Things instead of Ordinary People doing Extraordinary Things.

Anyway, when and how do I get to take over my kids' school?

this skit is ba-na-nas (onimo), Friday, 21 May 2010 10:19 (sixteen years ago)


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