Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Also Widmore knows where things are going in the alt-timeline as well, and as far as we know there's no Jacob there. Unless it's Desmond.

Actually it might be Eloise who's the driving force in the alt, I'm just assuming they're a double-act.

Eloise certainly knows but i don't think Widmore's showed much inside knowledge so far

Even alt-Eloise would have known all about Jack, Sayid and the hydrogen bomb though. That might be where the reveal's coming from.

yeah ::INAUDIBLE WHISPERING:: was a pretty shameless device even by Lost's standards.

but "Luckily he had already told me what I needed to know!"

googling 'loser' via his Lighthouse coconut internet telescope

(This was not given nearly enough credit for being hilarious)

i agree

my biggest problem is not that they aren't answering fundamental "old" questions about the show. my problem is that the story they are telling does not make any sense whatsoever--especially the motivations of any of the surrounding main players of the story (apart from the candidates, who have been unwitting idiots for six seasons).

kept thinking the finale was on tuesday, idiot me. apparently SkyOne might be showing it v early Monday morning in the UK??

maybe the only way to defeat smokey is to be completely nonsensical in your actions and motivations

it's like some kind of idiot-savant thing (minus the savant part, possibly)

In the UK, Sky1 will simulcast the Lost finale with the US at 5am on Monday morning!:

http://sky1.sky.com/lost-sky1-to-simulcast-the-lost-finale-in-the-uk

hes the smoke monster. he's indestructible. why not just kill them!?

he can't kill em, they can only kill each other

if Sawyer hadn't pulled the wires on the submarine bomb Jack would have been "right" and the bomb would have fizzled like in Jack's scene with Alpert

I think

so the finale starts at 7/6c. Do we have any idea when the finale proper is going to start? I assume there's going to be at least one hour of "series recap" with commentary from the cast and crew before the new stuff starts?

I don't know, tbh. Immediately following the episode, Jimmy Kimmel is hosting an aftershow with all the cast, creators, etc. and those alternate endings. I'm assuming it's an all night thing (like, from 7 to 11).

I live in the ol' CST, and this is how it goes:

6-8 - Recap show
8-10:30 - Finale
10:30-11:05 - Local News
11:05-12:05 - Kimmel

Do any brooklyn ppl know somewhere to watch the finale other than Knitting Factory BK? It seems no one we know actually has TV channels and everyone's been on Hulu this whole time.

I'm having the same problem, although I'm on the West Coast so should be able to get it by the time it would be shown here. Maybe. Considering whether to invite myself over to a non-Lost-watcher's house for the evening and make them watch it or whether that's too rude and I'd rather just watch it on my own with my o/h.

btw link to Vozzek, not read yet:
http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/things-i-noticed-what-they-died-for-by.html

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Things I noticed: Widmore pours himself a glass of water then Ben asks "Water you doing here".

"Lettuce begin this important piece of exposition"

xp HA! Me, too! I thought I just had water on the brain (er) because I was thinking, "How does the plumbing still work? Is it a good idea to drink water from those pipes? How dusty is that glass? How ironic if Widmore lives this long only to die of girardia!" and must have imagined it.

Also it takes Zoe all of 40 seconds to get to the outriggers and radio Widmore, who tells her to 'get back as soon as you can'. Then after she gets back they spend about 5 mins talking about walkie talkies.

Ben shooting Widmore should really result in Ben dying/sacrificing himself too

Ditto for Ben killing Jacob, really.

thought this ep was okay, relatively at least.

anyone else seeing locke walking again in the alt having some monumental "he can let go" smokey is destroyed significance in the real one? feels like the kind of dumb shit they'll do.

there are so many cringeworthy lines of dialogue now it's hardly worth mentioning except to point out how lazy the writing has got. eg jacob explains the entire reason he brought them all to the island in 2/3 mins...and sawyer says "why did your mistake have to bring me to this goddamn rock?"

it's like a videogame where one character is like "stubborn angry dude" another is "sensitive love interest" etc, and after big weighty dialogues they each chip in with one liners.

what's he supposed to say? "I'ma gonna kill you, smokles. But first, I gotta listen to more Iggy and cry some more"

actually, maybe Sawyer ought to have asked Jacob to clear up the rules re: Smokey killing the candidates directly instead of asking Jack, but that would prompt the story to give up some info the writers don't want to reveal yet?

they will never discuss anything regarding the rules

he could have asked him about a zillion questions.

can't believe we're basically not going to find out in any way whatsoever what smoke monster is.

not that I'm thrilled about the light or the Smokey origin story as is, but I don't really know what else you were expecting. something super literal or hard-sciencey like it's the smoke from some burning body come to life or a Wizard of Oz style illusion/smokescreen (no pun intended)? I mean we can bitch about the cheesy 'magic' explanations but what non-mystical backstory for a giant smoke monster could there be?

The ticking clock noises suggest biomechanical alien.

something at all is all i was expecting, like what is he or why does he do what he does, it's not even clear why he kills people or why he would be evil

remember he got put in a black blanket just after he was born

and he cried a lot more than his twin brother -- i know from experience that if a baby cries it's usually evil

they should have had tiny black and white cowboy hats for the babies

I mean we can bitch about the cheesy 'magic' explanations but what non-mystical backstory for a giant smoke monster could there be?

Did they show the smoke monster last season in the 1950s time where Daniel got shot? Alternative Smokey origin could have been weirdy quantum physicist being killed by his own mother during a time travel experiment, explaining the island's daddy issues and the shock twist being that Smokey hasn't been around as long as the island has been and was caused by the Losties' own doing.

Of course this season's Alpert episode shows Smokey killing dudes during the Black Rock time, but whatevs. Stupid alternative theory it took me two minutes to come up with and I like it more than the golden gloryhole from last week.

you'd think it'd be hard to do worse than the writers. you'd think so.

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xp They had six years vs my two minutes.

"Alternative Smokey origin could have been weirdy quantum physicist being killed by his own mother during a time travel experiment"
You're gonna have to explain how this leads to Smokey.

Time travel, I guess.

One of my favourite smokey moments is when he got Richard Alpert then the next scene showed Fake Locke walking out from behind a house, probably straightening his shirt or something, just like when Superman turns back into Clark Kent.

this is LOST, no one has to explain anything ever xxpost

I get the feeling they're withholding any transformation scenes until the finale because there's something vital revealed by them, not that they are too tasteful to show it, because man this show is not ashamed about flaunting bad CG at you!

smokey's creation could have easily been linked to the electromagnetism. duhr.

they did link it, didn't they?
the light thing that made smokey is the same thing that desmond has to press the button to keep from exploding, but it didn't kill him when it did explode because he's immune to it (and therefore immune to smokey? but not so immune that he can't get shoved down wells)

One of my favourite smokey moments is when he got Richard Alpert then the next scene showed Fake Locke walking out from behind a house, probably straightening his shirt or something, just like when Superman turns back into Clark Kent.

I'm kinda ashamed to admit that I actually spent about 30 seconds thinking about how when he transforms back into Flocke he's still carrying objects and figured Smokey just did a kind of loop and finished back where he was when he downed weapons to transform.

well i'm guessing the way to "kill" smokey is to get him into something like that mega magnet chamber desmond got trapped in?