Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

the whole "kate your name was crossed out cause you became a mother" show was is such bullshit

yeah

sun became a mother and that still hadn't DQd her as a candidate supposedly...

Jacob is a moron.

Agree-- too-easy Jack volunteering for Jacobhood + Hurley obtrusively saying 'Just it glad it's not me' = shit will shake out so that it's hurley.

Anyway, I liked this ep. With that much Ben in it, I'm bound to be happy.

Strong evidence that Ben and Rousseau will hook up in the finale-- this somewhat lewd jello mold, did anyone else notice this thing?

http://trueswamp.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/dickjellomold1.jpg

OMG PHALLUS JELLO

hatch is still mad he got blown up

What the fuck? It's still May 19th. How are you guys posting in the future?

L O S T

no way the fuckin SEINFELD finale is being held up here as an example of a good one

motherfuckin CLIP SHOW. disgrace.

if lost pulled a clip show on you guys for the last episode the internet would BLOW UP.

A christmas special where the kids look forward to seeing Santa Claus and then the mother and father actually think they see the sleigh flying by at the end of the episode, after the kids go to bed, would be a sweet finale

OMG I hope it's a clip show.

i hope they trot out the dead characters one by one and I will be all like "I remember that guy" LOL

A Robin Leach special.

predicting the whole alt-timeline Oceanic gang is rounded up by Desmond at the concert to sing a "We Are the World"-style rendition of "You All Everybody"

Lion cub held up for adoration.

http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/3yco

Actually after this I have quite a bit of hope that the finale will actually be really good. I don't actually want every single little mystery solved, that would be lame, I want there to be a big twist and lots of explosions and betrayal. And for Mr Eko to be in it.

Still think that the destruction of the island is the logical endgame whatever happens, and if Smokey is going to try it he's going to fall right into the Widmore/Desmond trap.

Hurley and Desmond are definitely fully aware of everything that's happened in the alt-timeline, so I guess that's where the story ultimately ends? Anyone else notice that Ben had the same facial injuries in both timelines?

If that's Richard dead then it's a dick move. He gets swept off by Smokey and then no one refers to it again. Then again Smokey beat the shit out of Keamy and he still survived so I guess immortal Richard can tough it out.

id forgotten that alt-hurley 'got it'

i guess that was one of the better eps

and on some level it's 'impressive' that there is so much to reveal: what the alt-timeline is, and what the consequences of MIB escaping are.

it's not really stated but doesn't jacob actually have *two* roles: keeping MIB on the island, but away from the magical light-emitting stream?

i wish it had been a bit better executed -- just h8 jacob so much.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/05/lost_recap_why_they_died.html

this is quite good on the widmore issue

I assume in the next episode Jacob will reveal why he let Jin, Sun and Sayid die, as he promised to do?

Also not crossing Sun off the candidate list because she was a mother was a dick move. Or, for that matter, not crossing Jin off the list because he became a father. Lame.

it's just a line of chalk on a wall in a cave

(I mean, recall that Widmore created an ENTIRE FAKE DECOY AIRPLANE OF CORPSES, alienated his daughter, and so on, to get the island back, and there was that whole "you broke the rules" thing with Ben, right? But now, it's like none of that ever happened.) Nothing that was key in the early seasons — the origins of the Dharma initiative, that devastating death-in-childbirth issue, the themes of rebuilding a diverse society — is even in play.

The fact that Widmore's motives are now reduced to "Jacob convinced me to drop everything and kill Smokey." It's not the biggest deal, but it's another factor in the shriveling of everything ambiguous to the framing device of good versus evil. (I mean, recall that Widmore created an ENTIRE FAKE DECOY AIRPLANE OF CORPSES, alienated his daughter, and so on, to get the island back, and there was that whole "you broke the rules" thing with Ben, right? But now, it's like none of that ever happened.

Nah I still think there's a Widmore long-game being played here with the alt-timeline concert at the end of it, whatever happens there I've no idea. It kinda needs Desmond and Widmore to meet up in the past though.

It seems pretty established that whoever's died in the original timeline can live, conscious of what's happened on the island, in the alt. So perhaps they can make us all happy and finally kill Kate on the island.

Nothing that was key in the early seasons — the origins of the Dharma initiative

Does that even matter any more? They were idiot scientists experimenting with weird shit the island was doing. They devoted most of last season to it. Aside from whatever happened after the bomb, what more do we really need to know?

that devastating death-in-childbirth issue

Not that interested in this but it'd be good to at least show they care.

the themes of rebuilding a diverse society

Yawn.

also, i thought smokey said he could only leave if he had all the candidates with him? i've forgotten. but evidently that was a lie, because he caused their deaths and destroyed the submarine.

n e ways, jacob's death* made it possible for him to do what he wanted to do.

did he really just want to destroy the island all along?

*it's got to the point where we just allow ghosts to exist in the lostverse

Fuck this show's shitty ending.

There's two and a half hours left to play and they usually throw a massive curveball right at the end of each series. There's no way we know all they're going to let us know, it's not just going to be "oooh good vs evil, Jack loves Kate" until the end.

He told the candidates that they had to be with him, but that was just to get them all in one place so they could be easily killed. No candidates means no trouble leaving the island/destroying the island (or whatever his plans are).

hes the smoke monster. he's indestructible. why not just kill them!?

He's been there for a thousand years. He's probably tired.

It kinda needs Desmond and Widmore to meet up in the past though.

he works for widmore.

I mean 1977 or before.

that could happen

it'd be a good pre-creds sequence

too much to get head round

The fact that Widmore's motives are now reduced to "Jacob convinced me to drop everything and kill Smokey." It's not the biggest deal, but it's another factor in the shriveling of everything ambiguous to the framing device of good versus evil. (I mean, recall that Widmore created an ENTIRE FAKE DECOY AIRPLANE OF CORPSES, alienated his daughter, and so on, to get the island back, and there was that whole "you broke the rules" thing with Ben, right? But now, it's like none of that ever happened.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Jacob convinced Widmore to "drop everything" (his quest to regain control of the island) so that he could...come back to the island? Wouldn't Jacob showing up and saying "I need you" be Widmore's wet dream? Now he doesn't have to go to all sorts of trouble to find the island again because Jacob removed his exile status. If this show has been about anything at all it's been about redemption.

The thing that bothered me about the Widmore scene was that his motives were kept ambiguous all season for the sake of ambiguity. There was the clue early on when Jacob told Hurley that someone was coming to the island and he needed to help them find it--and then Widmore showed up a bit later--but it would have been more satisfying if we'd seen Jacob visiting Widmore like he did with Ilana.

I mean Widmore was never battling against Jacob or anything. Ben & the Others vs. Widmore was more like a holy war, with two sects fighting it out over doctrine and shit while an uninterested god sat on the sidelines.

yeah ::INAUDIBLE WHISPERING:: was a pretty shameless device even by Lost's standards.

There's two and a half hours left to play and they usually throw a massive curveball right at the end of each series. There's no way we know all they're going to let us know, it's not just going to be "oooh good vs evil, Jack loves Kate" until the end.

― Matt DC, Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:26 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i still feel this way, too, they usually save some pretty interesting stuff for the season finale and had to have for this one in particular. i'm still optimistic that they had one amazing episode ready for a while and just ended up filling time with a lot of the rest of the season to set it up.

Also Widmore knows where things are going in the alt-timeline as well, and as far as we know there's no Jacob there. Unless it's Desmond.

Actually it might be Eloise who's the driving force in the alt, I'm just assuming they're a double-act.

Eloise certainly knows but i don't think Widmore's showed much inside knowledge so far

Even alt-Eloise would have known all about Jack, Sayid and the hydrogen bomb though. That might be where the reveal's coming from.

yeah ::INAUDIBLE WHISPERING:: was a pretty shameless device even by Lost's standards.

but "Luckily he had already told me what I needed to know!"

googling 'loser' via his Lighthouse coconut internet telescope

(This was not given nearly enough credit for being hilarious)

i agree

my biggest problem is not that they aren't answering fundamental "old" questions about the show. my problem is that the story they are telling does not make any sense whatsoever--especially the motivations of any of the surrounding main players of the story (apart from the candidates, who have been unwitting idiots for six seasons).

kept thinking the finale was on tuesday, idiot me. apparently SkyOne might be showing it v early Monday morning in the UK??

maybe the only way to defeat smokey is to be completely nonsensical in your actions and motivations

it's like some kind of idiot-savant thing (minus the savant part, possibly)