Oh god when Miles walked over Alex's grave I thought there was gonna be some "she says she always loved you Ben!!!!" stuff.
Sad that Widmore and Ben didn't get to do some more arguing.
― Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 05:39 (sixteen years ago)
ya i guess i'll always be sad we didn't see the great ben-widmore war play out more... but good to see bad ben back.
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 05:40 (sixteen years ago)
totally thought voice over girl was joanna newsom tbh
― Clay, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 05:44 (sixteen years ago)
so who let Desmond out? what was the stupid deal with Widmore whispering the big Desmond secret to Locke only to have him go "o ya he's a failsafe" 10 mins later?
― Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 05:44 (sixteen years ago)
I thought I heard jack refer to Locke as Flocke in this episode. I ever rewound it, and it still sounded like flocke.
― Jacob Sanders, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 06:06 (sixteen years ago)
i liked the explanation for why the candidates were chosen. it explained why there were so many criminals on the plane.
― abanana, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 06:08 (sixteen years ago)
the "it's just a line of chalk" line was pretty good too
― Nhex, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 06:10 (sixteen years ago)
I think my favourite aspect of the 'candidates' thing is the implication of how many others have come before and these were just a bunch of guys who fit the bill.
― Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 06:44 (sixteen years ago)
... but good to see bad ben back.
naw, smokey's getting played (tho scheming ben, good or bad, is infinitely better than mopey wet-blanket ben)
― in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:20 (sixteen years ago)
It was pretty satisfying that when Jacob finally agreed to tell the Losties why he picked them, the answer was that they were a bunch of losers.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:23 (sixteen years ago)
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I totally expected Ben to die last night, after that happy ending they gave him in the alt. But it's cool he's getting one last chance to pull one over on Smokey. My guess is that he'll try to learn Flocke's plan and then transmit it to Miles on the walkie.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:25 (sixteen years ago)
I figure Ben is going to end up being the one to kill Smokey, possibly while also sacrificing himself. It just makes sense that he'd be the one to kill both Jacob and MiB.
― peter in montreal, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 12:52 (sixteen years ago)
Ben's motivation is weird now. I guess Flocke can just kill Ben whenever so would tell him his 'plan'. Bit disappointed that Widmore's (and presumably Alpert's?) deaths were so quick.
We are actually getting answers but they're dripping out in this way that makes you wonder why you ever cared at times, but still enjoyed this fairly fast-moving ep.
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 12:58 (sixteen years ago)
Funny that Pickett once said "Shephard wasn't even on Jacob's list" and that Mikhail told Kate, Sayid, and Locke that their being flawed was why they were NOT on the list.
I guess these were different lists, though. Did any of the Others ever actually communicate with Jacob in 2004?
― jaymc, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:09 (sixteen years ago)
I thought it was a foregone conclusion that there were a lot of different lists, too many conflicts and inconsistencies between them even before now.
Zoe was the one woah that was quick death I really enjoyed. Does this mean the talk of her being all over the finale was probably bull?
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:15 (sixteen years ago)
She could always show up at the Daniel Faraday concert.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:29 (sixteen years ago)
opening act
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:34 (sixteen years ago)
better be a climactic symphonic rendition of "You All Everybody"
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:34 (sixteen years ago)
omg totes
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:37 (sixteen years ago)
"Let's Get Geophysical"
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:41 (sixteen years ago)
the whole flawed thing didn't make any sense at all
― cutty, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:32 (sixteen years ago)
but OK
surprise surprise Jack forgot to ask how the fuck the lighthouse worked
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:41 (sixteen years ago)
hey he doesn't have lostpedia to consult like we do, you want him to write cribnotes on his hand for all the shit he could ask Jacob whenever he finally runs into him?
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:50 (sixteen years ago)
my first q would be like, dude, what are my new powers
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:56 (sixteen years ago)
maybe jacob can fly!
funny to think back to mikhail and the dharma guy building the geodesic dome model and everyone else confidently doing their jobs in an organisation and being ruthless and killing people and confidently risking or sacrificing their own lives towards some secret about which they didn't actually know anything or had been lied to by someone who had probably been lied to by someone who had probably etc but maybe all of them thought they were telling the truth or it was like chinese whispers or like there secret was zero
so there's a light at the centre of the island that makes people into monsters. there a massive electromagnetic source too unrelated to the light or jacob didn't know there was any relation until the man in black had something metal when they were playing board games. the button (remember there was a button on a computer that people were pressing) released the electromagnetic energy so it wouldn't build up and make the sky purple and the wee counter show some hieroglyphics. so dharma made that computer after digging down to the magnetism and then shitting themselves and concreting it in wonder why they were digging down before they ended up shitting themselves
then jacob decided to make a hundred lists just of people names including one list all over the ceiling of a hard-to-get-to cave in case he forgot wonder where he got the chalk from
looking forward to the finale
― conrad, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 14:58 (sixteen years ago)
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:56 AM (4 minutes ago)
He can teleport anywhere in the world to touch potential candidates!
― Grisly Addams (WmC), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:03 (sixteen years ago)
random question: were losties for or against mr. eko? I wasn't in the loop back then. (re:underused interesting characters.)
― |8 l) u_u (bnw), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:14 (sixteen years ago)
nice work conrad
― cutty, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:27 (sixteen years ago)
stuff i would like explained
1) Christian's body and how MIB went about using it (e.g. finding the coffin and burying the original corpse so Jack wouldn't find it? or perhaps Jacob did this)2) How Jacob was able to leave the island (it would be cool to see him prevent MIB from using the wheel somehow only to start using it himself - or maybe he just took his own sub)3) How Jacob first identified and learned about his candidates (googling 'loser' via his Lighthouse coconut internet telescope?)4) Why Jack's cut is happening5) Who did the smokemonster carving in the Temple - was it Smokey himself or the temple-builders, having encountered Smokey in some way (an earlier version of Smokey, caused by the same light cave)6) The CABIN ffs why was Jacob using it, why he stopped, who broke the ash
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:33 (sixteen years ago)
2) How Jacob was able to leave the island (it would be cool to see him prevent MIB from using the wheel somehow only to start using it himself - or maybe he just took his own sub)
im telling u he can fly
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)
the airline finding Christian's coffin in the flash sideways seemed like an indication that they're gonna come back to that in some big way in the finale (and tbh i probably wouldn't even be thinking about Christian's body right now if they hadn't drawn attention to it last night).
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:41 (sixteen years ago)
there are no answers to any of those questions, there is a light, the candidates are flawed, desmond is a failsafe. those are your answers.
― cutty, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:43 (sixteen years ago)
the airline didn't find jack's body, that was desmond prank calling LOL
― cutty, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:44 (sixteen years ago)
something that occurred to me last night: tell me if i'm forgetting something, but MIB in his human form stopped aging at 40ish when he went into the water/became smokey/etc. but why did Jacob stop aging at that moment too? was there something in that episode that signified Jacob becoming immortal or acquiring all his powers when MIB 'died' or when their mom died or something?
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:44 (sixteen years ago)
oh shit forgot that it was Desmond
jacob stopped aging at that time to show solidarity for his bro that he screwed over
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:45 (sixteen years ago)
Jacob's fake mom never really aged, did she? I mean, they made no attempt to make Allison Janney look any older?
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:46 (sixteen years ago)
― some dude, Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:44 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
didnt jacob drink the magic drink that moms gave him
― NUDE. MAYNE. (s1ocki), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:47 (sixteen years ago)
that specifically gave him powers?
he was a kid then
― cutty, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)
when Jacob drank the wine that's probably when he stopped ageing. too bad they couldn't give some of that to Walt right?
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)
lol
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:48 (sixteen years ago)
Why did Flocke tell Ben that his new plan was to blow up the island? Didn't he JUST tell Ben that he could have the island after Flocke left?
― schwantz, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:49 (sixteen years ago)
i think because Ben didn't really believe Flocke and accepts he has to comply with Flocke's requests to stay alive for the moment. and Flocke can just tell Ben stuff believing he can't stop him.
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:50 (sixteen years ago)
i am such a man of faith right now
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:51 (sixteen years ago)
has there been any indication exactly why Des woke up and started running around taking care of business in the alt reality?
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:54 (sixteen years ago)
I guess there was the Charlie encounter. Guess something snapped after that?
― andrew m., Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:55 (sixteen years ago)
Desmond is Fry after 1000 cups of coffee - awesome
― mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:03 (sixteen years ago)