2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

i did tho enjoy his adoption of the mccain my friends tick

I hope saying "my friends" doesn't become a hip/ironic signifier. I'd jab my ears with an icepick.

my friends, id jab my ears with an icepick.

this is likely inevitable - good call daniel

make no mistake my friends I feel your pain

You would miss your ears my friend. lol xxp

itd be fun to go to a mccain rally w/a bunch of people MY FRIENDS and just yell my friends back at him every time he said it

ha

uh i dunno but isn't mideast regional opposition to the US going back before the iraq war based in part on our established military presence in S. Arabia? culturally, a prolonged occupation would not be comparable in purpose or effect to korea or germany etc

my friend aka the steendriver

guys, you know who else says 'my friends'? Teddy the K.

http://www.gigwise.com/artists/00020406_lcdsound.jpg

omg hipsters!

my fwends

http://dailynewshaikus.com/ClipArt/Haikus/Nov_2006/2006.11.06/CheneyFudd.jpg

lol @ bathroom stall graffiti:

"wasn't McCain too old about 10 years ago?"

culturally, a prolonged occupation would not be comparable in purpose or effect to korea or germany etc

definitely, I'm just saying that even if you grant McCain his stated backpedal on what he meant, the electorate probably wouldn't like it. which is why the strategists are trying to game the media referees early on and make the whole topic off-limits

the appropriate rebuttal of the iraq/korea-germany comparison is the iraq/vietnam comparison, imho

make no mistake my friends I feel your pain

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You would miss your ears my friend. lol xxp

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itd be fun to go to a mccain rally w/a bunch of people MY FRIENDS and just yell my friends back at him every time he said it

So it begins.

"Blanche" was meant to be a Whatever Happened to Baby Jane ref (sorry elmo - read the post like Bette Davis) and not aimed at you specifically, dmr.

Did F Rich characterize McNasty properly? "What Mr. McCain actually said in a New Hampshire town-hall meeting was that he could imagine a 100-year-long American role in Iraq like our long-term presence in South Korea and Japan, where 'Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed.'”

Do we know for sure if he took "My friends" from FDR or Sweeney Todd?
Of course, the comparison is largely specious, etc.

uh, that last line is sposed to go before the one above it.

could we go to an Obama rally and yell "MORE partisanship"?

frank rich characterized mccains point correctly but somehow missed the obv follow up question of how long is it ok for americans be dying in iraq then

just cause mmcain says hes cools w/us staying in a peaceful iraq doesnt mean hes not advocating endless war

i mean everyone would be cool w/a peaceful iraq - doesnt mean its gonna happen

and not aimed at you specifically

ok, was scratching my head over that one

I think Rich characterizes McCain's explanation of his comments correctly but the question is how long is McCain willing to stay and fight to secure this supposed 100 years of peace (answer: long)

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did I read that Chuck Hagel was essentially asking the propagandists yesterday "What frigging surge success are you talkin bout?"

i mean everyone would be cool w/a peaceful iraq

Yes. Also, I want a pony.

pony unicorn

That, too.

I think Rich characterizes McCain's explanation of his comments correctly but the question is how long is McCain willing to stay and fight to secure this supposed 100 years of peace (answer: long)

Also I don't know why Rich is being all Captain Save-a-Bro with McCain when in the last election the GOP and the media ran Kerry into the ground over an out of context line. Being above-all-that is what loses elections again and again.

Not that I don't hate Paglia, but I'd noticed this too

Being above-all-that is what loses elections again and again.

The ultimate in cynicism, and a neat summary explains why the Dems are not worth defending. Pigs in shit, all.

why don't you suggest some lies for Obama to use in the GE, mulla atari?

Also I don't know why Rich is being all Captain Save-a-Bro with McCain when in the last election the GOP and the media ran Kerry into the ground over an out of context line. Being above-all-that is what loses elections again and again.

-- mulla atari, Wednesday, April 9, 2008 6:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

Not to mention Al Gore "claimed he invented the internet"

http://www2.warnerbros.com/friendstv/img/friends_index.jpg

From left, Sen. McCain, Daniel, Hoos, J-Ho, dmr

Oh, and Morbs

why don't you suggest some lies for Obama to use in the GE . . .?

"John McCain: Reprogrammed by the Vietnamese"

"John McCain: Proud Liberal"

Last time I was a conservative commentator. Now Lisa Kudrow? Not sure if that's trading up or down.

Coincidence: One of my law partners is taking time today to be an extra in a movie being shot in Coral Gables, starring Jennifer Aniston. Jealous, I am.

"When Senator John McCain was asked here this afternoon how he plans to balance the budget, he said that he hoped to do so by stimulating economic growth - and approvingly cited the example of President Ronald Reagan," the New York Times reports.

"There was one thing he did not mention during his response: the deficit nearly tripled during the Reagan presidency, partly due to tax cuts and increases in military spending."

bwahahaaaguh

LOL at McCain trying to skate by as The Guy In The Reagan Mask.

He even has a magic pen given to him by Ronnie and says he's gonna sign bills with it!

LOL at McCain trying to skate by as The Guy In The Reagan Mask.

-- Daniel, Esq., Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:14 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

But I thought Patrick Swayze was at death's door?

Hundred dollar bills for supply side voodoo, 'IOU $100 signed preznit JMcC, now go and spend it'

What?

mitt romney subbed for paul harvey this morning - WTF. blamed youth of america's inability to spell on text messaging, thanked 'God' for spell check, eerily attempted harvey's cadence at times. picked up 'we now join our reg sched' after hearing bush's address on iraq. god bless america.

Mitt Romney is clip art man in human form.

Being above-all-that is what loses elections again and again.

The ultimate in cynicism, and a neat summary explains why the Dems are not worth defending. Pigs in shit, all.

why don't you suggest some lies for Obama to use in the GE?

-- Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 April 2008 13:34 (2 hours ago)

Lies? No one was lying by playing that "I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it" clip, nor is The McCain quote invented. In both cases a candidate was trying to pander to, respectively, the right and left in order to get a nomination. McCain wanted to sound more hardcore than his rivals on the war. Emphasizing the "I don't care if we're there for 100 years" part without providing all the ifs ands & buts may not be fair but it certainly tells voters what they need to know about McCain-- No matter what happens he will keep the troops in Iraq until he reaches his fantasy land scenario of no one being killed or injured, and then, after that is acheived, keep troops there in an
indefinite Korea-type situation. How can this possibly compare to "Obama is a secret Muslim"?

Not using the available tools in order to bring the war to a conclusion may be an avoidance of cynicism but it's also moral cowardice.

blamed youth of america's inability to spell on text messaging, thanked 'God' for spell check

Jesus fucking Christ, I wish people could think things through (the decline in spelling started WAY before texting caught on, douchebag, BECAUSE OF SPELL CHECK)

You just can't except the truth, Dan.

yeah it was funny cuz while he was going off (though to be fair it was more 'wry observation' than rant) i kept thinking 'duh spellcheck duh spellcheck duh spellcheck'. it'd be like 'ppl don't write letters no more cuz of text messaging. thank god for telephones and email!'
if anyone caught mitt harvey did the 'rest of the story' involve a lost tribe of israelites who settled down in north america we know them as indians and now you know the rest of the story plz say yes.

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Newsweek's Fineman: "The inner circle of the Clinton campaign can't believe that the Reverend Wright issue hasn't turned this campaign upside down. The fact that it hasn't has them furious and confused" ("Countdown," MSNBC, 4/9).

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/hotline_after_d_366.html

Obama talks to The Advocate:

Both you and your wife speak eloquently about being told to wait your turn and how if you had done that, you might not have gone to law school or run for Senate or even president. To some extent, isn’t that what you’re asking same-sex couples to do by favoring civil unions over marriage -- to wait their turn?

I don’t ask them that. Anybody who’s been at an LGBT event with me can testify that my message is very explicit -- I don’t think that the gay and lesbian community, the LGBT community, should take its cues from me or some political leader in terms of what they think is right for them. It’s not my place to tell the LGBT community, "Wait your turn." I’m very mindful of Dr. King’s “Letter From Birmingham Jail,” where he says to the white clergy, "Don’t tell me to wait for my freedom."

So I strongly respect the right of same-sex couples to insist that even if we got complete equality in benefits, it still wouldn’t be equal because there’s a stigma associated with not having the same word, marriage, assigned to it. I understand that, but my perspective is also shaped by the broader political and historical context in which I’m operating. And I’ve said this before -- I’m the product of a mixed marriage that would have been illegal in 12 states when I was born. That doesn’t mean that had I been an adviser to Dr. King back then, I would have told him to lead with repealing an antimiscegenation law, because it just might not have been the best strategy in terms of moving broader equality forward.

That’s a decision that the LGBT community has to make. That’s not a decision for me to make.

during Hillary's pity party, McCcain hits the road