"Ingmar Bergman's films utterly depressing" -- Ingmar Bergman

it is... wonderful.

please to see it.

it would be great to watch this on a big screen outdoors this summer, i feel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpIUYzxlpjw

also anyone making common cause with john simon is pretty suspect.

*hisses and boos*

Simon is terrific and his reviews were wickedly funny. Your point about Simon trashing the abstruse but digging "Persona" is kinda OTM though

kinda did a little tribute to magic flute here

That's great!

thk u!

I have pushed this o the top of my Netflix queue btw. I am so stoked!

Bergman in switched @ birth shockah!

his real dad was Steve jobs

I watched the "film" version of Scenes From a Marriage about sixteen years ago. Criterion released both versions. Is the TV version better?

Just watched "Seventh Seal" for the first time. My first Bergman. It was wonderful!

Best Death ever!

The part where they are watching the witch be burned, and they are looking into her eyes and not seeing God in them, is pretty amazing.

For all the existential angst, there's a lot of humor in this.

I once tried to watch Wild Strawberries when I was on the comedown off Ecstasy. It's a great movie, but dear god, what was I thinking? I will never understand why I thought it would be suitable for that frame of mind. Had to turn it off.

Bergman has been my 2nd-favorite discovery since I started my heavy film-immersion program a few years ago. I recommend The Magician next or soonish.

Thanks, I will definitely check that out next!

This opens here shortly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELIMeemx-FI

I invented a new word to describe it: "Bergmanesque."

Summer Interlude is probably my favourite. Summer with Monika, Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries and Through A Glass Darkly are all solid gold. and Virgin Spring (two really shockingly violent bits)

you're right about 7th seal and the humour - bloke climbs a tree to escape death, death gets out a saw. slapstick. also feels like every single frame of the film would make a great poster.

> Bergman has been my 2nd-favorite discovery since I started my heavy film-immersion program

and the first?

Yes, Death with the saw! So good! Also when the squire is off to the side calling every trick Lisa is going to use to calm her furious husband. "It's only a matter of time before she brings up his favorite dish..." This kind of humor is all over sitcoms!

Also the bit where they are doing that silly play with the devil and a somewhat vulgarly playful song and all of a sudden this mass of Black Death ecstatics wanders into town and just completely usurps their act. People whipping each other and calling out to God, making such a big show of it all. Suddenly the fool and his family dressed up in silly devil costumes seem the most genuine people around.

I definitely need to watch it again, there's a lot of commentary on the performance aspects of religion, on people willfully fooling each other. The painter in the monastery painting pictures to stir up church attendance, the witch who is desperately trying to convince herself - in the face of her own death - that the devil is real and in her eyes.

This movie seems heavily influenced by the tarot, beginning and ending w the fool, plenty of knights and cups and clubs, etc. throughout. Then again the Tarot is probably influenced by Revelations...

koogs -- #1 is Ozu

5-week retro in NYC

https://filmforum.org/series/ingmar-bergman-centennial-retrospective-series

Liv Ullmann talks about Bergman in anticipation of BFI retrospective:

http://www.dazeddigital.com/film-tv/article/38835/1/liv-ullmann-ingmar-bergman-bfi

Saw "Through a Glass Darkly" at the cinema only yesterday!

Got F&A out of the library for my first viewing in 15 years, particularly for the TV version, which I haven't seen. Is it worth it?

yes it absolutely is

Abysmal.

lol wrong thread soz

Yes, at least one of my favorite scenes is cut from the theatrical.

It was "The Silence" today. Still recovering.

and is there more of Fanny? I would think so.

i've never seen the theatrical cut so i can't say, but also nothing seems remotely excessive in the tv version so i don't really have a desire to watch the other one

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I did two hours ago!

the silence is terrific

The full version of Fanny and Alexander is sometimes my favourite movie of all time.

So which is your favorite scene, Brad?

F&A is the one where the uncle blows out a candle in unorthodox fashion, right?

Fastest five hours I've ever watched, most of which in one sitting. Much of it remained familiar; it helped.

Anyway, F&A is a notch below his very best achievements, but as epic it's an ideal summa.

do any hoovering? running machine?

this WSJ piece has been up for 3 days, and the headline blurb calls him "the French icon"!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ingmar-bergmans-heart-of-darkness-1517434450

lol jesus

Bergman doesn’t really get talked about much these days, at least ime. I remember when he died my friend’s dad made fun of how pretentious The Seventh Seal was, and yeah that’s definitely my least favorite of the 10 or so I’ve seen, but he’s not the icon that Fassbinder is. I don’t know, half formed thought, but something I’ve been thinking about since I first saw Persona last year.

I'm not sure I agree with you there.

The reputation that The Seventh Seal has for "pretension" annoys me to no end. I'm assuming it has a lot to do with a) Bergman's presumed humourlessness (also B.S. as there is certainly humour in many of his films, and I don't just mean the comedies) and b) so many comedies (SCTV, Bill and Ted) utilizing the "playing chess with death" thing for laughs over the years, but mostly I just assume that most people who make the charge against the film haven't actually seen it.

Bergman has always been about, for as long as I've been aware of these things -- as an 'icon' or otherwise.

yeah like i said this could just be in my life, in the film community here, he hasn't had a resurgence in interest or popularity like Tarkovsky or Fassbinder. not sure. like i said, not a fully formed thought. and yeah i know the thing about him being humorless is just wrong. even Cries & Whispers has its moments