Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

Now the Finns.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7082795.stm

:/

global epidemic spreads unchecked using news media as vector

High school shooting in Finland.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7246003.stm

i mean come on this shit is old now

ffs not again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7936817.stm

*placeholder for insensitive comment*

I can't get the story to load. Probably for the better. (Sigh)

this one too, alabama

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/10/shooting.alabama/

In summary: At least ten people are believed to have been killed in a shooting spree at a German school. Shooter believed to be a former pupil (oh wait that bit has now been removed). Shooter thought to be in custody.

xpost

10 dead at both shootings on the same day wtf.

15 dead in germany now.
wasnt someone shot at a church in the USA over the weekend too?

http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_gadget.phtml#rt2ig1_1236782715

wait a minute, meant to indicate it's a full moon atm.

wasnt someone shot at a church in the USA over the weekend too?

― Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname)

yep

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090309/ap_on_re_us/church_shooting

Also, the economy. Not meant to be flip, btw, but isn't there usually an upswing in this type of crap when the economy tanks? I seem to remember a bunch of workplace shooting lined up with the 90s recession.

i don't think 17-year old Rammstein fans are motivated by the mortgage bubble bursting, jon

17-year old Rammstein fans

classy

It was a general comment, hadn't really delved in the details of any of the stories. I was just wondering about how trends like this tie in with the global economy turning to shit.

There was that one dude who killed his wife and kids and self because he couldn't afford to take care of them all with two jobs and it was mega-sad.

The idea that a man's worth is in his productivity/success and that if HE can't be "successful" then everyone who was his responsibility must cease to exist, is just..........beyond. I can hardly form sentences when I think about this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/nursing_home_shooting

A NURSING HOME. What do you have to do to be even worse than your average spree shooter? Murder a bunch of helpless fogeys, apparently.

I'm sure this has been said before, but It's kind of disheartening how these mass murders have become an accepted fact of life. This was the 4th story on NPR's hourly news report today. Yeah, there is a lot of stuff going on in the world and maybe this is the forth most important story of the day, but holy shit we've become accustomed to this kind of violence. It barely registers anymore.

There was also a story today about some 17 year old guy who has stabbed one sister and then cut the other (5 years old!) one's head off, in front of a 3rd sister... he was still hacking at the 5 year olds head when the cops got there.

Just... what.

Perhaps, but then again I believe these things have always happened all the time, everywhere, they're just far more publicized now due to 24-hour-news cycles. It's still a sad thing, but people "randomly going nuts" and doing these horrible things is inevitable in every society.

but holy shit we've become accustomed to this kind of violence. It barely registers anymore.

― Super Cub, Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:36 PM

ya some people even think its great (see thread title)

It's still a sad thing, but people "randomly going nuts" and doing these horrible things is inevitable in every society.

Actually, I think there have been societies where murder is
virtually non-existent. Usually these sort of societies have had a very strong social cohesion and a strict set of shared moralities though, with little room for nonconformism. I would assume there's a lot of variation between different countries of the world in the frequency of murder sprees though. It's inevitable in any society that people will go nuts, but the choices of what you do when you go nuts seem to be at least partially influenced by your surrounding culture. And in most Western societies a shooting spree seems to have become one of the "viable" alternatives for action, sadly. In the first school shooting spree in Finland, for example, it was later found out that the killer had some strong fascist/social Darwinist ideas and that he idolized the Columbine shooters.

Actually, I think there have been societies where murder is virtually non-existent

wanna come up with some examples, cause I don't buy this at all / have never heard of such societies outside of the lyrics to 'cortez the killer'. "strong social cohesion" isn't gonna overpower certain mental/psychological disorders that some people are simply born with.

(sorry)

wanna come up with some examples, cause I don't buy this at all / have never heard of such societies outside of the lyrics to 'cortez the killer'. "strong social cohesion" isn't gonna overpower certain mental/psychological disorders that some people are simply born with.

I remember reading in some sociology textbook that certain Buddhist communities in Asia have had virtually no violent crime at all, but I can't find any information on that online right now. I probably shoudln't have used the word "society", since what I was talking about was small, geographically limited communities. Anyway, I don't really think there are any psychological disorders that people are born with, certainly not ones that automatically lead to a murder spree. Or can you name any?

There was also a story today about some 17 year old guy who has stabbed one sister and then cut the other (5 years old!) one's head off, in front of a 3rd sister... he was still hacking at the 5 year olds head when the cops got there.

Just... what.

― one art, please (Trayce), Monday, 30 March 2009 03:46 (8 hours ago) Bookmark

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090330/twl-man-murders-his-sisters-at-birthday-3fd0ae9.html

The policeman broke into the house and witnessed Revelus decapitating five-year-old Bianca, whose birthday cake was on the kitchen table.

Thanks for highlighting that.

really belongs on one of those "what the fuck is wrong with people/nuclear holocaust in 3 seconds" threads :-/

doesn't get much more fucked-up than that

Why do I even look at these threads?

I still can't believe that story. (Sadly, I can believe it happened in the Boston area.)

I really wish I hadn't even looked at this thread.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/nyregion/04hostage.html?hp

now with extra xenophobia. Yay, America.

^^ Huge conclusion-jump in that post -- see other thread for context

P.S. Re: the above thing about mental illness and society, I'm pretty sure most everything we know indicates that lots of deep mental illness has a big biological component, but the behavior that illness actually results in is heavily shaped by culture and environment.* But a lot of this is environment/culture in the kind of deep-down way that you can't exactly just decide to change one day.

* E.g., there are minor neuroses (like weird phobias) that are common and specific to certain cultures

Countries with stricter gun control like Britain and Japan (I think) have fewer shooting sprees and drive bys than we do in America. I think there are countries where cops don't even regularly carry guns.

and yet Japan has highest suicide rate in the world

also they grope womens on the train

and work way too hard and enjoy rape porn

also cartoons with school girls with penises.

Americans don't enjoy rape porn AT ALL.

Well, yes, limited access to guns is a pretty obvious physical way of keeping people from behaving certain ways with them

I was using that as an obvious example of behavior being shaped by culture and environment. Maybe if the Japanese had as easy access to guns as Americans do, they'd be less into rape porn and shoot each other more.

The fact that a country has a social problem doesn't imply anything about the success/failure of its gun control policies, does it?

"Country X places a high prices on tobacco products and as a result few of their citizens smoke nowadays."
"Yeah, but Country X's students score poorly on Science and Reading Comprehension."

??

Thailand was this morning
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7vj364825qo

This bar is very familiar to me, and a friend used to own it until fairly recently... it's unclear whether people were actually inside at 3:30AM or just milling about on the sidewalk. Seven people shot with two fatalities

Beloved teacher and a father killed in shooting at bar in Oakland, California
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/09/oakland-california-bar-mass-shooting

There had been a shooting a few months back on First Friday… a few blocks away… so the City decided to increase police presence and close streets on First Friday further down than where they typically do it. EZ (fka Golden Bull) was a block below the closure zone. … Several years ago, a musician got shot loading his gear out of there … bullet meant for someone else.

Active shooter at a synagogue in West Bloomfield, MI

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cq6q8dgvp8zt

also something at Old Dominion in VA

Shooter apparently dead w no other loss of life

Thankfully

ehh, more info:

ROTC students at Old Dominion University subdued and killed the National Guardsman turned ISIS terrorist who shouted 'Allahu Akbar' before he killed one and wounded two at the Virginia school.

The ROTC students subdued him and 'rendered him no longer alive,' Dominique Evans added. 'I don't know how else to say it.'

I guess they killed him with their bare hands?

She confirmed Jalloh wasn’t shot but didn’t provide further details.

Old Dominion guy had been convicted of providing material support to ISIS in 2016. He was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February 2017. Be right back, I would like to do some math real quick.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/former-army-national-guardsman-sentenced-attempting-provide-material-support-isil

This is interesting

On July 2, Jalloh went to a gun dealership in northern Virginia, where he test-fired and purchased an assault rifle. Unbeknownst to Jalloh, the rifle was rendered inoperable before he left the dealership with the weapon. Jalloh was arrested the following day and the FBI seized the rifle.

I did not know they could do this (whoever "they" is). So, the store lets you try it out, the sales guy says "let me just wrap this up for you," they take it in the back and surreptitiously disable it, perhaps by an FBI person? "Here you go," and you take it home. Then you have committed a crime by leaving with it but the gun doesn't work?

I wonder if yr Republican 2A patriot crowd who hates the government knows about that, and if so, what they think.

The Department of Homeland Security identified the suspect as Ayman Mohamad Ghazali, a Lebanese-born U.S. citizen. A source in Michigan's Lebanese American community told CBS News that a strike roughly 10 days prior on the Lebanese village of the suspect's family killed several of his family members, leaving him devastated.

welp

Student kills 9 in Turkey’s second school shooting in 2 days

https://apnews.com/article/turkey-school-gunfire-9ba3a4a9512bf7b4c36b19077b53f705

8 children killed in Shreveport

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-shreveport-mass-shooting-rcna340868

Jesus christ. Way to go America. Great gun culture over there.

Charlie Kirk, looking up, smiling.

That's the price of liberty!

*holds hand to ear* OK forget what I said about liberty

seven of the children were his own https://edition.cnn.com/2026/04/20/us/shreveport-louisiana-shooting-what-we-know-hnk

this whole story is so sad & grim

MEXICO CITY (AP) — An armed man standing atop one of the historic Teotihuacan pyramids opened fire on tourists Monday, killing one Canadian and leaving at least 13 people injured at the archaeological site north of Mexico’s capital, authorities said.

The shooter was identified as 27-year-old Julio Cesar Jasso of Mexico, a state official told the AP on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak about the case. Jasso later died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, authorities said, and security officials found a gun, a knife and ammunition. Jasso was the sole assailant in the attack, the State of Mexico government confirmed on Monday night.

I was just there over Christmas ...

Another TCC dork who photoshopped himself into pictures of the Columbine killers.

ugh

https://apnews.com/article/san-diego-islamic-center-shooting-af934ee29b397fba1495baf2529c49f8

SAN DIEGO (AP) — An active shooter opened fire at a San Diego mosque Monday, and police believe people have been shot, authorities said.

Officer Anthony Carrasco said people reported multiple shots at the Islamic Center of San Diego, about 9 miles (14 km) north of downtown San Diego. It was unclear if the shooter was outside or inside, or had been captured yet. The San Diego Police Department posted that the scene is “still active but contained.”

Carrasco said he did not have more information at the moment.

The Islamic Center is the largest mosque in San Diego County, according to its website. The campus includes the Al Rashid School, which the website says offers courses in Arabic language, Islamic studies and the Quran.

Aerial TV footage showed more than a dozen children holding hands and being walked out of the parking lot of the center that is surrounded by scores of police vehicles. The white mosque is in a neighborhood of homes, apartments and strip malls with Middle Eastern restaurants and markets.

Looks like the security guard was fatally shot

oh man... 'teenage'

SAN DIEGO (AP) — A shooting at a San Diego mosque on Monday killed three men, and two teenage suspects are also dead, the police chief said.

They were exactly who you’d expect them to be.

It isn't "racial pride." The manifesto, which I'm reading right now, is a total slop-bucket of neo-Nazi accelerationism with misogynistic rants and multiple sections that are completely unfinished. It lionizes Brenton Tarrant, who murdered 51 people in a NZ mosque in 2019. https://t.co/Fq1nJRmLQO

— hannah gais (@hannahgais) May 19, 2026

no surprise there

The deceased security guard made a big difference apparently, it could've been a lot worse

yeah did a cursory read through the manifesto and it's the same thing we always get, including lionizing Brevik, Roof, Tarrant as "saints".

one of the gunmen was reported by his own mother, who told police he and her gun stash were both missing, and he was suicidal.

nothing like having an unsecured gun collection with a suicidal teen in the house ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Three in the space of 24 hours from the Philippines to Montreal to California.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjegy777xw5o

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/23/chico-library-shooting-northern-california

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/23/canada-montreal-shooting-gunman-three-killed-suspect-police-cote-des-neiges

Shooters aged 14, 15, 18 and 25. All look to fit the same profile of extremely online losers they usually do.

used to go to that library in Chico. unsurprising given the population around there, which ranges from hippies to absolutely insane Trumpers, but really a nice little town and library. terrible

crazy that the 18 year old shooter in Chico apparently was inspired by Columbine - which occurred years before his birth

The 14-year old in the Philippines, who looks about ten, was wearing a KMFDM t-shirt in tribute to one of the Columbine shooters, as was the 15-year-old girl who shot up her school in Wisconsin last year. It’s a subculture built around referencing past killers, with Dylan and Klebold as the original icons.

5 confirmed dead.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-at-least-5-killed-in-shooting-in-stade/a-77754951