― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
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― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
Well, you *are* on a Belle and Sebastian mailing list...
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
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― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
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― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
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― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
Teacher: Woe betide the boy who plays football instead of coming into class
Young Billy: Who's this fucking Woby? He's got the right idea!
(or words to that effect)
― Rumpea, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― elmo (allocryptic), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
― I Dream Of Sleep (kate), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
http://www.20six.co.uk/pub/channel26/hale_and_pace2.jpg
― beanz (beanz), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
Pétard in French is slang for a joint.
― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
"Hoist" was in Shakespeare's time the past participles of a verb "to hoise", which meant what "to hoist" does now: to lift. A petard (see under "peter out" for the etymology) was an explosive charge detonated by a slowly burning fuse. If the petard went off prematurely, then the sapper (military engineer; Shakespeare's "enginer") who planted it would be hurled into the air by the explosion. (Compare "up" in "to blow up".) A modern rendition might be: "It's fun to see the engineer blown up with his own bomb."
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)
the only word in the english languaged that means one thing and also its opposite.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
nah, there's loads
― Slumpman (Slump Man), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)
When is it ever used not in conjunction with "thurst" ?
― JTS, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)
― LeCoq (LeCoq), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
Pyrrhic is a proper name (relating to Pyrrhus), and so I'm not sure it qualifies.
I'll add the sense of "brand" used in "brand [spanking] new".
For "stark naked", see also "stark raving".
I'm kinda with Archel in this, in that I use many of these words in other contexts, but Martin will tsk me as well I suspect.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)
also used with contrast
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
― Rotgutt (Rotgutt), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)
ihttp://www.crru.org.uk/images/porpoise_callout.jpg
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)
when it's used in conjunction with 'desire'?
I love autoantonyms!
― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 23:29 (twenty years ago)
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― Lurky McLurk, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 03:01 (twenty years ago)
is "hew and cry," innit?
― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)
What is wreaked? Mostly havoc.
Occasionally vengeance. But generally when you have some havoc, it's being wreaked. And if you are going to wreak something, it's probably havoc.
― calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 December 2025 22:14 (six months ago)
Spic and span, pretty much always discussed together. Ditto flotsam and jetsam.
― calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 2 December 2025 22:15 (six months ago)
you've got your flotsam, you've got your jetsam, badda bing badda boom
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 22:27 (six months ago)
xp i can think of solo uses of both spic and span 😬
― map, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 22:32 (six months ago)
Two years late, but..."auk and style"??? What the fuck are you on about, Mark G?
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 23:24 (six months ago)
Helter, and indeed, skelter. Also, can you champ at anything other than the bit?
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 23:55 (six months ago)
And I don't think you can ever walk, stroll or jog amok
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 2 December 2025 23:58 (six months ago)
Jog amok!
― Now read it backwards. (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2025 12:15 (six months ago)
I've been chuckling to myself about that since you posted it Zelda Zonk
― Now read it backwards. (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2025 12:16 (six months ago)
Thither, as in 'hither and...', which I guess is 'here and there'. Hither you'll find in hither and yon or come hither. But thither? Can't think of another usage.
― hennohenno moheji (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 December 2025 14:30 (six months ago)
Kipling uses it in the last stanza of a fake Horace ode, presumably because it sounds archaic and works with the meter.
Maecenas waits me on the EsquilineThither tonight go I And shall this dawn restore us, Virgil mine,To dawn? Beneath what sky?
― Lily Dale, Wednesday, 3 December 2025 16:11 (six months ago)
went thither in search of adventure.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 3 December 2025 16:13 (six months ago)
Good King Wenceslas
Bring me meat and bring me wine!Bring me pine logs hither!You and I shall see him dinewhen we beat them thither!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 3 December 2025 17:08 (six months ago)
Sorry BEAR them thither
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 3 December 2025 17:13 (six months ago)
i got some logs for ya King Wencie
― Edward Albee Sure (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 December 2025 17:14 (six months ago)
"Hither and thither" there.
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 3 December 2025 17:15 (six months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xckDFpXa6po
― Tony Bubbles (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 December 2025 17:17 (six months ago)
sure but the only other available rhyme was “zither” which is an untenable word for medieval bohemia
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 3 December 2025 17:44 (six months ago)
I hereby withdraw thither from thread consideration
― hennohenno moheji (Matt #2), Wednesday, 3 December 2025 18:59 (six months ago)
"panacea" only ever used afaict in the phrase "not a _________"
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 January 2026 09:10 (four months ago)
There's also no silver bullet
― Alba, Monday, 12 January 2026 09:14 (four months ago)
Very rarely a one size fits all solution
"Universal panacea" is a phrase I think I've come across.
― ledge, Monday, 12 January 2026 09:42 (four months ago)
Obviously there isn't one.
“universal panacea” is redundant
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 12 January 2026 12:09 (four months ago)
Gentlemen, you can't argue about lazy writing in here!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 January 2026 12:21 (four months ago)
Not unless you know the recall code.
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 January 2026 19:38 (four months ago)
On tenterhooks
― Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 January 2026 07:55 (four months ago)
Good King WenceslasBring me meat and bring me wine!Bring me pine logs hither!You and I shall see him dinewhen we beat them thither!
Missed this at the time, but the Oxford Book of Carols calls the lyrics to GKW “doggerel”.
― ICE = Tonton Macoute (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 15 January 2026 13:31 (four months ago)
A tenter is a frame for stretching fabrics. Compare the word tent. Both come from the Latin word for stretching, which also gives us words like tendon.
Anyway the fabric is held to the tenter by means of small hooks. Hence tenterhooks.
― calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 15 January 2026 13:56 (four months ago)
At Christmas eve church service we sang all the verses of all the hymns, and later the other alto said "Next time we don't do all the verses. The cutoff is 'thither.' Anything with thither, we don't sing."
Later her (adult) daughter asked "What the heck is a thither?" which led to a hilarious family riff about cutting things with thithers.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 15 January 2026 14:24 (four months ago)
if you hear a zitherdon't dither
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 January 2026 16:23 (four months ago)
I would be remiss if I did not...
― Venus of Willendorf on Golf (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 15:28 (four months ago)
How remiss of you not to think of at least one other usage of that word.
― Wearing red lipstick and maintaining a neutral expression (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:33 (four months ago)
You're forgetting my daughters, Miss and Remiss.
― calmer chameleon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 January 2026 16:53 (four months ago)