― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago) link
His thinking is very simplistic and just as reactionary as the other side of the idiot polemic he argues against. The only decent things I've seen on the show are the less ideological stuff-like designer water, for example.
I know someone who loves him, but she's a sucker for any athetist with a penis.
― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 30 May 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Monday, 30 May 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM (your opinion, not the libertarian one)
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
You know what? Every episode of this that I've seen has pissed me off. Ok, fuck this show.
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link
I watched the online clip of that last night because of this thread, and it seemed to follow the formula. Here's this venerated respectable person who agrees with us, and... sheesh! Look at this fuckin' idiot!... who represents our opposition.
― slightly more subdued (kenan), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Pinup Girls of YANK (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Keep in mind, Penn is the type of person who claims to hate wacko pseudo-pundits... and then he pops up in shit like "Michael Moore Hates America." He's a boob.
― On a Strict El Cholo Diet (Bent Over at the Arclight), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 22 April 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
I've only seen the War On Drugs episode thanks to Elvis and S. Cindy, and that one was great, incidentally.
― DOQQUN (donut), Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah, i really dislike the show for this reason. it makes for good comedy, but i wish their targets weren't so easy. they sweep a stupid hippie off the beach so they can say "look! hippies are stupid!"
― even cathy berberian's nose (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 22 April 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 23 April 2006 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Statistics used by pro-death penalty people that supposedly prove that capital punishment deters crime.
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 23 April 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 23 April 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
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― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tiny Hats, Indeed, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 07:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abbott (Abbott), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 27 April 2006 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 27 April 2006 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
this is some Stossel-level bullshit innit
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 29 June 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link
From everything I've read about the show, yes.
Disappointing, really, since P&T television specials used to be awesome.
― kingfish, Friday, 29 June 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
it's more fun to watch if you imagine the people watching aren't the choir, and p/t aren't preaching to it
― Will M., Friday, 29 June 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Right, because this country is FULL of self-described libertarians who love magic and mutes.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 29 June 2007 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link
I remember a "travels around the world" TV series they did, which was excellent and one I'd buy if it were available..
Teller did a bit of a video diary on it.
― Mark G, Thursday, 14 July 2011 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm finally watching this show, it's pretty great. The show about going green was so awesome. Some of them present really interesting points of view that I hadn't thought of, and never really see when these topics come up. They must get a lot of shit from leftists. Also, <3 the blonde with the perfect huge tits
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
definitely some interesting POVs on this show, but I certainly wouldn't take anything away from it, it's about the least objective thing on TV right now
― That's a pretty funky dance, Garfield. Show me how you do it. (frogbs), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
Nothing's objective on TV.
The organic one was awesome too
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
seeing doc directed by Teller, Tim's Vermeer, tonight. It's on the Oscar shortlist of 15.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 December 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
I like crawetur
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 12 December 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
There was good Vanity Fair article about that Vermeer story and the accompanying documentary recently.
― The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 December 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link
yall know this show sites fake corporate research real news sources wont touch right
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 04:23 (ten years ago) link
aka liberty
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 04:24 (ten years ago) link
eh their smugness would be more tolerable if i knew they were using reliable data instead of sourcing it from whatever shady corporate funded fake laboratories
― ice cr?m, Friday, 7 January 2011 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
They're talking about a different thing, a documentary about Vermeer.
― bamcquern, Friday, 13 December 2013 05:12 (ten years ago) link
Verneer of respectability
― Mark G, Friday, 13 December 2013 10:24 (ten years ago) link
I think I got through about 3 seasons, possibly more, a couple of years ago before I gave up on it.At that point i just found the inherent political slant too grating. Seemed they only wanted to be cynical in one direction.
Not sure how many series there are and that was around 2009 or 10 that i was watching it. Had to download it from Demonoid or something.
― Stevolende, Friday, 13 December 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link
man I forgot how much I hated this show
― frogbs, Friday, 13 December 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
wow i couldnt tell that by all the posts talking abt the documentary abt vermeer *j/o motion*
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
i read the vanity fair piece it does sound cool tho but the more important point is bullshit is bullshit these guys are disgusting
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
yes but tell me amore about the blonde with the huge perfect tits?
― ian, Friday, 13 December 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
So, they are touring the UK next year
― Mark G, Friday, 13 December 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
http://static.phx2.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Content/101004/News/Todays_News_Our_Take/5_fri/101008mag-penn-jillette1.jpg
― lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
this diet :/
http://www.grubstreet.com/2016/08/penn-jillette-thinks-watermelon-is-magic.html
― just sayin, Sunday, 14 August 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
If it worked for him, ok, that's fine. Some people need a drastic change from old habits. Not anything I'd recommend for others. Especially anyone who isn't worth at least a few million dollars and can afford whatever medical assistance they need if things go south.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 15 August 2016 04:55 (eight years ago) link
he had some awful illness a couple years ago, was painfully thin after.
I guess there's a whole bunch of things he can't eat anymore.
― Mark G, Monday, 15 August 2016 08:04 (eight years ago) link
that's contrary to everything he's publicly said over and over, which is that he lost weight deliberately for health reasons
― Shakey δσς (sic), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link
with all that fiber and hot pepper his shits must just be phenomenal
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 01:25 (eight years ago) link
I don't see anything wrong with his diet? It doesn't seem as unpleasant as most vegans I know with the fake meats and stuff.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 02:49 (eight years ago) link
The blueberry cayenne thing, I'm going to try.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 02:51 (eight years ago) link
yeah that piqued my curiosity tbh
― bagging area (map), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 02:55 (eight years ago) link
diet sounds pretty healthful to me too, any vegetarians around to weigh in on this? like he says, seems like he eats a lot, it's just mostly fruits and veggies. isn't that what we're all supposed to be doing?
― it's sort of a layered stunt (sheesh), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 04:55 (eight years ago) link
He starves himself and then he overeats. He also has periods of not eating nutritiously, which is disguised by all the veggies and fruit he eats, but most of us are guilty of that.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 05:15 (eight years ago) link
Intermittent fasting isn't starving yourself.
Only thing that sticks out to me is that it's very light on protein but Furman is largely anti-protein IIRC.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
He describes eating several pounds of food, really prodigious quantities, and he'll follow that up with huge snacks four hours later. And periodically going 36 hours without food sounds more like deprivation than fasting.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link
No, that's a pretty standard fasting style - eat dinner, skip a day, eat breakfast.
His 'pounds of food' is watermelon, which has a crazy high water content even for fruit. It's not like eating four pounds of beef or French fries.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:31 (eight years ago) link
but I don't see any particular health benefit in eating tons of watermelon?
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
like it's a nutritious and hydrating fruit to consume but id imagine the absorption of the vitamins in it isn't infinite, and like there's only so much fiber and fruit sugar you really need in a day?
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
Watermelon has low calorie density (filling but not terribly calorific) and the red pigment is lycopene, the same skin protecting carotenoid that colors tomatoes.
Penn's diet follows Dr. Fuhrman's guidelines, basically caloric restriction with optimal nutrition style, but achieved via ranking foods into seek/reduce/avoid categories rather than the spreadsheets etc. used in CRON, and there are few healthier. Some of Fuhrman's rhetoric about "toxic hunger" is unfounded, and I didn't care for the recipes. Most data sees diminishing returns on fruit and vegetable intake after 8 or so servings a day, and I'm increasingly convinced the health benefit of whole plant based diets owes more to what they don't include (fats and excess protein), so I've opted for a more comfort food diet (ie, more potatoes, beans, & corn tortillas), but I'll sometimes have a Fuhrman-style dinner salad with over a pound of greens, veggies, 'shrooms etc.
― no ends, only meanness (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
It's not just pounds of watermelon. He eats two entrees and rice at the Indian place, and then at the airport he eats two containers of pineapple. He eats four big containers of blueberries, and the "big" containers I get in the stores around here are all 32 ounces. Maybe he means a smaller container, but he says "big." He eats an "insane" amount of watermelon, a "whole" container of cherry tomatoes, a "big, big" bowl of soup, and "a lot" of blueberries; that's just one evening meal. On the 8th, he seems to eat a reasonable amount of food, albeit three meals' worth in the evening, but he appends that entry with "I eat a lot of food," which makes me wonder how large the portions are. For one meal, the base is three pounds of spinach (is one container even a pound?) to which he adds brown rice and four vegetables, including four ears of corn. This is the evening after he eats a store bought wrap, so much peanut butter "it would make you sick," a whole watermelon, and the blueberries snack in the afternoon. At midnight he eats three melons, popcorn, and more peanut butter.
And whose fasting style is this? For what purpose? It sounds like a gimmick diet fast to me.
― bamcquern, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link