DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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ha i just saw a bit. uncannily familiar.

all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Saturday, 15 May 2010 15:02 (sixteen years ago)

Argh the comments section of that times piece.

dead flower :( (Pashmina), Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

the only newspaper comments section I can bring myself to read is the Guardian's; and even that's starting to get invaded by tory trolls these days.

nevermind312, Saturday, 15 May 2010 18:49 (sixteen years ago)

lol good spot: http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2010/05/clegg-says-cams-a-con-man.html

joe, Saturday, 15 May 2010 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

Philippa Stroud, co-founder of the Centre for Social Justice – along with Duncan-Smith – has been made a special adviser in DWP after missing out on winning a seat in parliament.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/16/coalition-expertise-centre-left-hutton-field

Demonic exorcism as part of Incapacity Benefit?

carson dial, Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:42 (sixteen years ago)

The YouGov poll of 2.076 people found that, when asked about the alternative vote system, 49% supported it

nakhchivan, Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:53 (sixteen years ago)

ah but what was their SECOND CHOICE LOL AMIRITE

all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

1.04 ppl can't be wrong

nakhchivan, Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:58 (sixteen years ago)

Lord Ashdown said he had indirectly contacted David Miliband to ask him to come out and back a Lib-Lab deal. He added: "I think there was a failure of action by those who could have staked out very clearly this where they wanted to go. By this, I mean David Miliband.

"There was a point, and I will say to you that not directly but indirectly I know that this point was made to him: that he ought to come out clearly and say if he was leader of the Labour Party he would back this.

"But I fear greatly that he decided that for reasons of a leadership election, he wouldn't. I think that's true of others, too."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lord-ashdown-says-liblab-deal-frustrated-by-david-miliband-1974686.html

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 08:04 (sixteen years ago)

Politician screws over the entire country rather than risk damaging his career, film at 11...

he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves (snoball), Sunday, 16 May 2010 08:22 (sixteen years ago)

it's an interesting story, but not that simple. there are obvious reasons why miliband doing that would have bad consequences all round -- for starters the legitimacy question, had it worked.

all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Sunday, 16 May 2010 09:58 (sixteen years ago)

the only newspaper comments section I can bring myself to read is the Guardian's; and even that's starting to get invaded by tory trolls these days.

Well the paper's written by Tory trolls so it only seems fair,

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:04 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i don't read comments sections in general and the graun's appear to be packed with right-wing americans, lunatic trots, smug middle-class brits... oh i guess the last category makes sense.

all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:06 (sixteen years ago)

In more "hilarious irony" news, Radio 3 is now the least Tory station on the Beeb.

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:10 (sixteen years ago)

why's that?

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

nah i can believe that. modern tories just do not like public funds for ne thing other than police, armed forces, etc. my recollection of gove on newsnight review was that he used the existence of bad art to argue that there shouldn't be public money spent on it.

xp

all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:12 (sixteen years ago)

xpost

Only radio station that I'm not hearing crowing right-wing fuckbags on every half hour, plus as HM says Modernism is the enemy of pig thick reactionary scum. Which is ironic too, amirite?

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:14 (sixteen years ago)

they shd get rid of almost all the non-classical content and play more second viennese school tho and yeah the mendelssohn vln concerto is great but not ten times a week pls

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:16 (sixteen years ago)

I wd enjoy more hardcore Serialism tru but considering their audience I think they do a dece job of covering all bases, and it's the best station to cover e.g. Jazz so I don't think they should lose any more of the non-classical content also Late Junction is pretty dope when they get on a roll.

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:20 (sixteen years ago)

this reminds me of taylor parke's recent nostalgia-reverie

Hard to credit now, but there was once something paternalistic, almost philanthropic about the Beeb, spreading the cultural wealth of the educated classes through housing estates and comprehensive schools. This kind of evangelism rarely sits well with self-conscious champions of the lumpenproletariat, whose right to live in shit, they believe, outweighs their right to not live in shit - for some, being patronised is worse than being brutalised. But then people can be very naïve about the motivations of those who give the people what they want, relentlessly and remorselessly. And while the Corporation was sometimes guilty of gross assumptions and a very real stuffiness, I don't like to think how I might have grown up - stomping around in the middle of nowhere - had it not been for Life On Earth, or Carl Sagan's Cosmos, or James Burke's Connections, or the gentle guidance of the BBC Childrens' department. Years ago, I interviewed the men in charge of "youth programming" at Channel 4, goateed and bereted and utterly insistent that their race to the bottom was a noble crusade; they railed against the BBC's "eat-your-greens" approach, and spoke of gallons of liquid effluent, coursing through the pipes of British culture, in terms of freedom and some strange colour of egalitarianism.

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:23 (sixteen years ago)

Disagree with the way dude's saying it but pretty much agree with what he's saying tbh

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:26 (sixteen years ago)

true, it's a bit hysterical but more of less correct

mozart on radio 3 is about the least elitist thing in the world, amazing music at next to no cost and available to virtually everyone

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:38 (sixteen years ago)

*or less*

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:39 (sixteen years ago)

That Quietus link is giving me an error message that I've never seen before - is it working fine for the rest of you?

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:47 (sixteen years ago)

nah it's fucked for me too but lol Quietus

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:48 (sixteen years ago)

So I see Chaz Kennedy sobered up long enough to realise he was in a party of cunts

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 10:50 (sixteen years ago)

xp "Rails development that just works" lol
It's a problem with their webserver, everyone will see the same error message regardless of OS/browser.

he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves (snoball), Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:00 (sixteen years ago)

always kinda liked charles kennedy and seem to remember being disappointed that being a drunk was a greater disqualification to high office than being a complete fucking cunt

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:07 (sixteen years ago)

as with so many other areas of life, wobbly dreamers lose out to dead-eyed technicians

Consensus Working Overtime (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:08 (sixteen years ago)

They've left their bonnie Hieland hills,
Their wives and bairnies dear,
To draw the sword for Scotland's lord,
The young Chevalier.

Oh, Charlie is my darling,
My darling, my darling;
Oh, Charlie is my darling,
The young Chevalier.

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:15 (sixteen years ago)

as with so many other areas of life, wobbly dreamers lose out to dead-eyed technicians

and in the case of deco and lampard, dreamy technicians lose out to dead-eyed wobblers

nakhchivan, Sunday, 16 May 2010 11:15 (sixteen years ago)

tbf they do do a GB mug with the slogan "I will try my utmost"

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 16 May 2010 14:19 (sixteen years ago)

Please to recaption with "that's another fine mess you've gotten me into!" - bowler hats optional.

tweedledee and tweedledem (suzy), Sunday, 16 May 2010 14:31 (sixteen years ago)

as with so many other areas of life, wobbly dreamers lose out to dead-eyed technicians

and in the case of deco and lampard, dreamy technicians lose out to dead-eyed wobblers

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existence of a football board would be justified by a specialised excelsior thread for just such as above tbh

May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac), Monday, 17 May 2010 09:19 (sixteen years ago)

So, what's this about Nick and Dave making 100+ new lords to enable this 56% 'reform' to pass through?

Mark G, Monday, 17 May 2010 09:47 (sixteen years ago)

The party in power tends to adjust the balance of the Lords in their own favour and this has happened since life Peers were created I think. Why Captain Reform-a-Democracy thinks this is a good and positive move now tho, well, I really shd stop being cynical and mean about the principled and necessary plans to rig Parliament.

unabashedly boring your eyes out (Noodle Vague), Monday, 17 May 2010 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

Coalition creates 100 peers with Lords deal

Potential Conservative peers include the former leader Michael Howard, Michael Spencer, the party Treasurer, and Andrew Feldman, appointed party co-chairman last week. Angela Knight, the former Tory MP and head of the British Bankers’ Association, is under consideration. Simon Wolfson, the Next chief executive, and Sir Anthony Bamford, the chairman of JCB, are also thought likely to be elevated.

oh goody.

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 17 May 2010 09:51 (sixteen years ago)

This..
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/research/parliament/defeats09-10.htm
...must never happen again!

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 17 May 2010 09:52 (sixteen years ago)

This news gonna piss off Kirsty Ward then?

Mark G, Monday, 17 May 2010 09:52 (sixteen years ago)

Jesus Christ. Can I just say, good luck, LOLBritain with your hilarious legislature?

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 May 2010 09:55 (sixteen years ago)

The New Politics. World War I is just round the corner.

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Monday, 17 May 2010 09:56 (sixteen years ago)

As it stands the coalition has more peers than the opposition anyway, don't know what they're so worried about. Are those crossbenchers really that independently minded?

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 17 May 2010 09:56 (sixteen years ago)

"currently dominated by Labour"

labour has 211. the tories have 188. the libs have 72.

this is complete fucking bullshit. obviously the lords is the lords and there's a debate to be had about that. but this is in service of a massive rigging exercise. more and more echoes of 1910.

all i wanna do is poll poll poll poll and zing and discuss mia (history mayne), Monday, 17 May 2010 09:56 (sixteen years ago)

Are those crossbenchers really that independently minded?

Too much so for the Neu Politik

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Monday, 17 May 2010 09:58 (sixteen years ago)

existence of a football board would be justified by a specialised excelsior thread for just such as above tbh

― May be half naked, but knows a good headline when he sees it (darraghmac)

I started a nakhchivan-specific one last night

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 10:00 (sixteen years ago)

If I'm being honest the concept of a "Labour Lord" has always been a little o_O to me

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 May 2010 10:04 (sixteen years ago)

If I'm being honest the concept of a "Labour Lord" has always been a little o_O to me

Whirlwind Bromance (Tom D.), Monday, 17 May 2010 10:06 (sixteen years ago)

If nothing else, the fallout from this election is making read up on aspects of our parliament that I knew nothing about. For example, the Salisbury Convention.

Michael Jones, Monday, 17 May 2010 10:30 (sixteen years ago)

I like how whenever there's a big election in Britain people get all frisky with the Constitution. It's heady, this access to power.

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Monday, 17 May 2010 10:31 (sixteen years ago)


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