Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Dharma probably didn't know about the donkey wheel but instead created the Orchid to teleport polar bears using the same power source.

― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, May 13, 2010 3:03 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark

or maybe they just brought the polar bears over normally and one strayed into the donkey wheel area and accidentally got zapped to Tunisia idk

maybe or maybe or maybe. you can keep doing this long after the show is over.

maybe the cabin was an old restaurant that smokey managed

maybe the water in the temple brings people back to life because it has high levels of high fructose corn syrup

maybe the statue was brought to the island by the lighthouse.

do we think ted actually ends up with robin?

MOY MAYBE

so CJ was both smokemonster and guardian of the island at the same time, and all she did, keeping the two boys, putting them against each other, was a long-con to get free

right?

no she is aunt robin, so unless time travel or alt-reality is involved, i dunno

yeah but they keep saying ted is an "unreliable narrator" right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DcnB_WLXWo

so CJ was both smokemonster and guardian of the island at the same time

neither imo, because of the boys ghost mom appearing. MAYBE MIB subconciously willed her to appear tho right?

also they said ted's wife lives with that girl he dated that time, so unless robin is living a double life, i dunno

She was just some batshit woman in the woods.

that's true
maybe the ending will be, he leaves their mother for robin

xpost

god i wish max were here

"there's a special Light that shines in all men..." blarggh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOVc4TMjHpk

someone needs to explain why CJ is specifically the smoke monster and not just, like, somehow all-knowing or immortal or powerful enough to have killed all those people. seemed to me like the smoke monster was created when MIB went down to the water and the light turned dark.

Egyptians knew about smokey because he's in their hieroglyphs. But this episode seems to have been set post-egypt. So that would mean there'd been a pre-MIB smokey.

That was just some 19th century retro-Egyptian architecture.

My wife says smoke monster predates MIB, but once MIB goes through the rivercave press, the newly-released smokey gets MIB's memories and proceeds wrongly thinking of itself as MIB in a new form.

Like Alan Moore's reboot of Swamp Thing, who thought he was a man turned monster but really was just a monster with a human's memories stuck on.

The good guys dress in black remember that
Just in case we ever face to face and make contact
The title held by me M.I.B.
Means what you think you saw, you did not see
So don't blink be what was there
Is now gone, black suit with the black Ray Ban's on
Walk in shadow move in silence
Guard against extra-terrestrial violence
But yo we ain't on no government list
We straight don't exist, no names and no fingerprints
Saw somethin strange watch your back
Cause you never quite know where the M.I.B.'s is at
Uh ah

? the black + white stones? oh right so it proves that all along your show has had a deep underlying theme of "good vs. bad" not like almost every tv show ever.

― pollos da don (tpp), Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:15 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

actually think not enough shows stick to this simplicity and try to get too clever showing nobody is entirely good/evil. especially shows dealing with myths like heroes, lost, bsg. Maybe that goes back to the writers believing they are character driven shows but being flat out wrong.

I don't think that the black/white thing is as simple as good vs. evil.

one of the island rules is that MIB can only wear black

is only because MIA was already in use

no but over-complicating motivations can reduce their contrasts, especially when motivations change at a whim which Lost is very guilty of. xposts

it all goes back to shitty writing though.

we still don't even know who is good and who is evil! including widmore.

ben's "we're the good guys michael" is so irrelevant at this point

Is there going to be some big reveal with MIB's name or are they just being dicks and making people type 'MIB' and 'Smokey' all the time?

Sidelining Ben completely as a character in this series has been the shittiest thing about it. He should be right in the middle of the action, we should be dubious about his motivations right til the very last episode. Mostly because Locke makes a shit villain.

Actually does Ben even know Widmore's on the island yet? That face-off should at least be fun.

isn't it the point that good/evil have been interchangeable or flexible wrt people's actions? sure hope so

he said nervously

really wish ben had gunned down that useless chick in the woods like flocke told him to.

I did not need to be shown who mom loved more re: jacob and mib. I will gladly accept a simple contrast over lowering them into the pit of emotional crapitude that Jack frolics in. My point is the backbone of the myth can be a simple contrast.

he said nervously

*taxicab printer sound*

I did not need to be shown who mom loved more re: jacob and mib.

yeah and what possible reason could she have for loving one more than the other anyway. i guess boy Jacob was a bit annoying?

pretty horrible to steal someone's kids and then show favoritism

she put emphasis on him being "special" just like locke's mum did

basically the message is that women fuck with your mind

yeah she probably didn't even need a reason. moms are like that :(

Jacob seemed more obedient and less difficult so would've expected him to get more love.

Their bio mom actually reminded me of Young Rousseau.

I thought they might be showing us that the island protector doesn't necessarily get to pick the replacement he/she really wants, but has to settle for the one who the island thinks is "good."

Which makes me think that Hurley might be the new Jacob rather than Jack.

i'm a little more annoyed by this ep in retrospect---mostly because of the timing. like, i'll kinda settle for whatever hokum offered as backstory, but there everything's coming to a head now/alt and they cut away from the action to for an origin story that offers little in the way of details that might affect the ~current~ action.

oh, NOW you're annoyed! stfu!

just because they did it now! wouldn't have bothered me in an earlier season tbh

shoulda been the first ep

well it will be one the series is over and I release my chronologically recut version

once

actually one thing i totally agree with Cuse/Lindelof on is that it's good to have an episode like this as kind of a breather after an episode full of action & significant deaths. for me that's partly because i was so annoyed by how they handled those deaths that it was refreshing to be annoyed by something else, but either way i think it made sense in terms of the rhythm of the season, and for some reason it being two episodes before the finale instead of the penultimate episode also seems appropriate.

Yeah, I def don't mind the idea of this episode. I was pretty excited about it, in fact. It was just handled so artlessly.

i was so annoyed by how they handled those deaths that it was refreshing to be annoyed by something else

lol yes. Agree in principle but it would have been amazing to see this ep earlier on OR have something a bit more mindblowing in this ep - I mean most ppl had already inferred the concrete stuff and everything else was still kinda open to interpretation.