Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I guarantee that the scientific counterpart to the mythical version will be presented in the next two episodes.

It had better!

(like we could actually do anything about it if it's not.)

A magical light? Seriously?

to be fair, it's also a waterslide that shoots your body out the other side.

Maybe it isn't the light that people are drawn to but instead the cool waterslide.

Maybe the island is really an ancient San Dimas.

Six Flags Over the Island

Future Locke:

http://i39.tinypic.com/55oznk.jpg

The conclusion was uncomfortable to watch. The revelation that the MiB (well at least his body) and his mother (names for these characters would be great) are actually the Adam and Eve skeletons from way back in Season 1 felt incredibly forced. Cutting to Jack and Kate's discovery of the skeletons didn't help at all either and seemed more like Lindelof and Cuse trying to reinforce the fact that they had this all planned out from the beginning.

Well, for those of you who have watched "House of the Rising Sun" recently, you would probably remember the rest of the scene and the fact that Jack mentions that the remains look no more than 40-50 years old. Now, maybe we'll get some sort of weird time travel explanation for this, but as it stands this looks really sloppy. They should know their audiences' meticulous attention to detail. Conveniently dismissing Jack's important bit of dialogue in that scene makes it seem as if they are now covering their tracks. This is one Lost ending I'd rather forget.

from here

fwiw I didn't think the episode was jaw-dropping horrible like everyone else seems to. I'm pretty much with gbx.

"Jack mentions that the remains look no more than 40-50 years old"

Octomom and MIB are about 40-50 y.o. when they die right? Could be their not aging past 40-50 genesis effect thing.

yeah I would accept that.

I thought this episode was sub-par and disappointing but not horrible, if it had come near the end of Season 2 it would have blown everyone's minds. It sure established a lot of backstory character motivation for Mr. Smokey.

Clearly crazy mom went into the cave at some point and got possessed by Smokey, no wonder she was happy to die.

Actually, the 40-50 years old thing, at least the way the writer puts it, is confusing. Does it mean the bodies were 40-50 years old when they died, or that the skeletons themselves had only been around 40-50 years ago, ie, the pair died 40-50 years ago?

A doctor wouldn't necessarily have any expertise in identifying the age of bones, but he would with the age of the people belonging to the bones.

xpost How would Jack know how many years a skeleton had been in a cave? Does he have spinal surgeon carbon dating powers?

KATE: Any idea how long they've been here?

JACK: Long. It takes 40 or 50 years for clothing to degrade like this.

[Jack finds a pouch in the clothing.]

KATE: What is it?

[Jack dumps a white stone and a black stone into his palm.]

you missed episode S204 where it is revealed that Jack has spinal surgeon carbon dating powers

http://i39.tinypic.com/260r4o2.jpg

"every answer just leads to more questions" works for me
who it didn't work for: a lot of hardcore weirdos demanding more answers
and some of yalls analness had become extremely revealing since yesterday

I liked this episode. Much better than last weeks

plus Jack and Kate aren't going to literally be Adam and Eve. The closest they'll come is if everyone in the world dies and they have to start over

I have never been as angry after reading something as simple as an interview with some dudes who work on a fucking TV show as after I read this. No shit, I am going for a walk to calm down. No spoilers, although much of what so angers me has to do with confirmations of things which are known to the powers that be but which have been deemed unnecessary to reveal.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/exclusive-interview-lost-producers-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cuse-talk-across-the-sea

fwiw I didn't think the episode was jaw-dropping horrible like everyone else seems to. I'm pretty much with gbx.
― A lot of you have come here today with booing in your heart (Z S)

I think it's funny how lots of people seem to alternate between which episodes they like and hate. It's like some people's internal clocks are set a week ahead or a week behind

^^^
But as angry as I am, this is otm.

Damon Lindelof: "Are there any readers who actually like the show?" (LOL)

I wanted to shit in his cereal, when I read that.

I don't know, that interview kinda just makes me sympathize with the writers - a lot. It reminds me of this one time, I was teaching in Shanghai, and I was rewarding students with candy as a disciplinary tool. Like, divide the class into four teams, and whoever behaves the best/answers questions correctly gets some candy at the end of the class. It worked really well like 99% of the time. But one time, I messed up and accidentally gave the wrong team candy. This caused another team to start shouting and eventually, crying (they were 2nd graders). I felt really bad, so I gave the other team candy, the team that should have won. But then the other 2 teams, who didn't win AND didn't get candy, started whining and crying too, presumably because they couldn't understand my horrible broken-Mandarin explanation of what I was doing. So I smiled really wide and said "it's your lucky day - EVERYONE GETS CANDY!" and gave everyone candy, thinking that would satisfy everyone. But then the first group I had given candy to - wrongly - started stomping, crying, screaming, because everyone had gotten candy and no one had really deserved it. It was anarchy, and then the bell rang and I got the fuck out of there. I tried so hard to please everyone, I was giving everyone candy for FREE, and yet everyone was so fucking pissed and crazy.

Like, do you really need to go on a walk to calm down because two writers are like "sheesh we're doing our best, you guys are fucking crazy"?

i read that whole interview looking for outrage and...wtf there are some crazy ppl on this thread, i think i need to not read this anymore, y'all are only going to get worse and more agitated in the next week and a half? have fun and bye

I guess this is normal and I'm just not used to it. I've never been into a tv show enough to follow 1000+ post internet threads about it. People were probably throwing chairs at the end of the last season of Frasier and I just didn't know it

a lot of us have come to post here today with booing in our hearts

People were probably throwing chairs at the end of the last season of Frasier and I just didn't know it

― A lot of you have come here today with booing in your heart (Z S), Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

loving this mental image. "You mean we still don't get to see Maris's face!? ARGHHHHH"

wow, the last 20 minutes of this thread has been hilarious. Good job, everyone!

That thing about the skeletons being 40 years old - I think the point was they were AT LEAST 40 years old, could be more. No idea what happens to skellingtons after bazillions of years.

Oddly, at the start of the episode I thought that Allison Janney was from modern times and could have gotten there by time travelling magic. Not sure why, the way she spoke I guess.

anyway dudes i'm sorry if i'm one of the people hulking out and seeming psycho in this thread. but really, to echo what a couple people have said already, i wouldn't really be bitching about the plot holes and goofy origin stories if last night's episode was good, entertaining, engaging television like the majority of Lost's episodes are. i mean, let's face it, that thing had no replay value, it was a bland info dump that just happened to be full of really stupid info.

^ OTM and I didn't really mind this episode.

Re that interview, are people REALLY moaning that they don't know what MIB's name is? imo that's one of the more minorly classy things about that episode, in that he's not called Jack or John or Aaron or something.

His name is Kevin Marnahan

the mother's name is Deb Tolles

I'm actually writing one of the first books set in the Lost universe, set to be released in August 2010. It's called How Kevin Marnahan Built the Big Statue

I'm not sure if I linked to this blog before. Nominally this guy is reviewing episodes of season 6 of Lost without seeing any prior seasons of the show. I kinda suspect he's faking his ignorance, but it's still kinda funny.
http://neverseenlost.wordpress.com/

From last night's review:
"To no one’s surprise, Jacob grows into a 30 year old man who sews and lives with his mother. He still meets Cecil to play games. During one rousing game of Obvious Metaphor, Cecil throws his knife and it gets stuck to something with magnetism."

xxxxp Yeah, I don't really care what his name is, but it is annoying that D&C still keep trying to push him as being the bad guy in public when that's not even the story being told on the screen. I mean, am I supposed to resent and hate him for killing 815ers and Temple people to get the fuck out of there (presuming he & smokey are the same character)? His story is about 1,000x more sympathetic than Sayid or the Kwons or fucking Lapidus, seeing as how he was deceived about his own identity, held hostage on the island his whole life, and now trapped there for eternity by his dumbshit brother Jacob.

Regarding all of the unanswered questions, though, I think the NYT review of last night's episode probably has it right:

One thing seems clear: There will be a sufficient inventory of unanswered questions after the May 23 season finale to fuel any number of movies, Web series, comic books or Broadway musicals the producers might want to sell in the future.

That hitfix interview is 10000x better than "Oh look, a Chuck E Cheese"

The Jimmy Kimmel show is going to show 3 alternative endings after the season finale of Lost is over. There might be some lost actors in the alt-endings because last night they had this for instance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4veR7DkdvKw

Feb 07, 2007:

LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living — or, I guess, slowly decomposing — proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, ''That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this.''

FWIW, I always assumed it was the black and white stones found with the skeletons that were meant to prove that they knew where the show was going thematically. But then again, don't know why they would draw so much attention to skeletons I had otherwise forgotten about three episodes later when the Locke/Walt backgammon convo accomplishes the very same thing.

Regarding all of the unanswered questions, though, I think the NYT review of last night's episode probably has it right:

One thing seems clear: There will be a sufficient inventory of unanswered questions after the May 23 season finale to fuel any number of movies, Web series, comic books or Broadway musicals the producers might want to sell in the future.

― A lot of you have come here today with booing in your heart (Z S), Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:58 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the line the producers have always sold is that they're totally washing their hands of it all after the last episode, but the network/studio own the property and can do whatever they want with it afterwards. i don't think the unresolved plot strands are any kind of shrewd move to set up spinoffs.

however, i will totally buy How Kevin Marnahan Built the Big Statue

You won't regret it, although I will admit in advance that the part where I explain how Kevin Marnahan built the big statue really does raise a lot of other questions about the role that Deb Tolles plays, both at the time of the construction and before

That episode could only have been saved by CJ doing "The Jackyl"

this week's DarkUFO "things i noticed" seems pretty on-point, especially with what was potentially going on the mother's side of the story - think this might have been posted or quoted earlier in the thread

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/05/things-i-noticed-across-sea-by-vozzek69.html

What if the only way for smokey to stop being smokey is for the next island guardian to kill him? So he's actually pushing things forward to get to a conclusion. So really, he wants what Jacob wants, but for different reasons. Jacob just doesn't want someone else to take on the smoke monster's role.

A minute later however, another thought occurred to me: maybe there aren't any rules at all. Maybe Jacob and his brother just think there are rules, and they've been ritualistically following them out of two thousand-year habit. Remember, these are the same children who once believed nothing else existed except for the island. For most of their childhood, their mother's every word was indisputable law.

I actually think a lot of things make a lot more sense if this is actually true. There are times where the rules would appear to have been broken, but no times when anyone was forced to follow the rules except by the assumption that they had to, right?