Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, I want to join everyone in hating this episode as virulently as all of you guys do. But on the other hand, I'm kinda thinking "what is it about this particular episode that's finally gotten this reaction from you guys?" It's not much different from ab aeterno, imo, and everyone loved that. And I feel like we've known that the Jacob/MIB storyline was some bullshit that ruined the show for a while now. Is it really cause we're so close to the end and the fog of denial is lifting?

what happened is exactly as bullshit as the premise that big magnets crash planes and boats and polar bears. imo they'd have been better off NEVER EXPLAINING ANYTHING and like not have The Gang Go To The '70s and live in an alternate reality, but that's what's happened, and at this point an rpg savepoint and a creepy momma's boy are what we get

That is so otm it hurts.

why are you guys still watching this vs why am i still opening this thread after watching a new ep

thought this was pretty awesome, they should have named mib though.

imo it's plenty different from Ab Aeterno in that that episode centered on an actor who'd had substantial screentime already, and had a well acted and fairly compelling drama that tied into the present day with some main characters, and didn't raise far more questions that it answered. (xpost)

btw i'm sorry if i'm coming off like a raving angry lunatic, i mean i'm still going to patiently watch the last 2 episodes hoping for the best and don't really want the producers' heads on a platter, but i feel like this episode had more squandered potential than any other episode i can think of.

The only squandered potential I feel is that Ian McShane was not revealed as Smokey/Jacob's pops, then shown dying cursing the island.

Literally cursing I mean. If ABC can give special dispensation for that sort of thing.

Philip u were OTM, check this from vozzek:

Cue spooky music change, and enter our oldest LOST character to date - 'mother'. Right away, we should know who this really is. We're given a tremendous clue as Claudia stops to drink from a stream: the overhead reflection that startles her is nearly identical to a scene in The Cost of Living. In that episode, Mr. Eko is drinking from a similar stream when he sees the reflection of the smoke monster looming over him.

so that's how she laid waste to the well diggers.

as much as i'm happy to let vozzek give me some interpretive food for thought like that, sometimes i feel like he's just making much ado about recurring camera angles and visual motifs that are bound to happen multiple times in the course of 100+ hours of television without necessarily meaning anything.

fair point, yeah, but the smoldering huts were a pretty big clue as well.

i didn't hate this episode, but, like i said above, just a little bewildered that this was one of the last episodes of the show. the next show should be all about how fake mom first arrived on the island! just seems like they could have crammed this info into the first episode of the season when those dudes were hanging out on the beach and MIB was talking about how much he really wanted to kill jacob. that was the first ep, right? (ten minutes of flashbacks to fake mom would have told us everything we needed to know.)

i'd be happy with more real-hot-mom

Were they meant to be speaking latin throughout? or did they actually switch to english?

latin I think

who the fuck knows anymore though

They spoke just enough Latin to show the viewer "hey, this is olden times y'all" and then made a switch just to keep from having to hire a latin translator/subtitle maker.

latin hottie death toll is too high on this show, if you ask me.

my hart still braeks for Ana Lucia.

It looks like Ana Lucia doesn't even get a role in the flash sideways - alt timeline. I think that she made one cameo in season 5 as one of Hurley's hallucinations and that was it. Her entire story arc could have been cut from the show and what would we have lost?

a babe

h8 ana lucia

<3 ana lucia

A magical light? Seriously? This entire show has been about who gets to protect a magic light? I wish they'd kept this had the Daniel Faraday/crazy scientific phenomenon level, this mystical shit they've been doing since the S5 finale is such a cop-out.

I guarantee that the scientific counterpart to the mythical version will be presented in the next two episodes.

It had better!

(like we could actually do anything about it if it's not.)

A magical light? Seriously?

to be fair, it's also a waterslide that shoots your body out the other side.

Maybe it isn't the light that people are drawn to but instead the cool waterslide.

Maybe the island is really an ancient San Dimas.

Six Flags Over the Island

Future Locke:

http://i39.tinypic.com/55oznk.jpg

The conclusion was uncomfortable to watch. The revelation that the MiB (well at least his body) and his mother (names for these characters would be great) are actually the Adam and Eve skeletons from way back in Season 1 felt incredibly forced. Cutting to Jack and Kate's discovery of the skeletons didn't help at all either and seemed more like Lindelof and Cuse trying to reinforce the fact that they had this all planned out from the beginning.

Well, for those of you who have watched "House of the Rising Sun" recently, you would probably remember the rest of the scene and the fact that Jack mentions that the remains look no more than 40-50 years old. Now, maybe we'll get some sort of weird time travel explanation for this, but as it stands this looks really sloppy. They should know their audiences' meticulous attention to detail. Conveniently dismissing Jack's important bit of dialogue in that scene makes it seem as if they are now covering their tracks. This is one Lost ending I'd rather forget.

from here

fwiw I didn't think the episode was jaw-dropping horrible like everyone else seems to. I'm pretty much with gbx.

"Jack mentions that the remains look no more than 40-50 years old"

Octomom and MIB are about 40-50 y.o. when they die right? Could be their not aging past 40-50 genesis effect thing.

yeah I would accept that.

I thought this episode was sub-par and disappointing but not horrible, if it had come near the end of Season 2 it would have blown everyone's minds. It sure established a lot of backstory character motivation for Mr. Smokey.

Clearly crazy mom went into the cave at some point and got possessed by Smokey, no wonder she was happy to die.

Actually, the 40-50 years old thing, at least the way the writer puts it, is confusing. Does it mean the bodies were 40-50 years old when they died, or that the skeletons themselves had only been around 40-50 years ago, ie, the pair died 40-50 years ago?

A doctor wouldn't necessarily have any expertise in identifying the age of bones, but he would with the age of the people belonging to the bones.

xpost How would Jack know how many years a skeleton had been in a cave? Does he have spinal surgeon carbon dating powers?

KATE: Any idea how long they've been here?

JACK: Long. It takes 40 or 50 years for clothing to degrade like this.

[Jack finds a pouch in the clothing.]

KATE: What is it?

[Jack dumps a white stone and a black stone into his palm.]

you missed episode S204 where it is revealed that Jack has spinal surgeon carbon dating powers

http://i39.tinypic.com/260r4o2.jpg

"every answer just leads to more questions" works for me
who it didn't work for: a lot of hardcore weirdos demanding more answers
and some of yalls analness had become extremely revealing since yesterday

I liked this episode. Much better than last weeks

plus Jack and Kate aren't going to literally be Adam and Eve. The closest they'll come is if everyone in the world dies and they have to start over

I have never been as angry after reading something as simple as an interview with some dudes who work on a fucking TV show as after I read this. No shit, I am going for a walk to calm down. No spoilers, although much of what so angers me has to do with confirmations of things which are known to the powers that be but which have been deemed unnecessary to reveal.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/exclusive-interview-lost-producers-damon-lindelof-and-carlton-cuse-talk-across-the-sea

fwiw I didn't think the episode was jaw-dropping horrible like everyone else seems to. I'm pretty much with gbx.
― A lot of you have come here today with booing in your heart (Z S)

I think it's funny how lots of people seem to alternate between which episodes they like and hate. It's like some people's internal clocks are set a week ahead or a week behind

^^^
But as angry as I am, this is otm.

Damon Lindelof: "Are there any readers who actually like the show?" (LOL)

I wanted to shit in his cereal, when I read that.

I don't know, that interview kinda just makes me sympathize with the writers - a lot. It reminds me of this one time, I was teaching in Shanghai, and I was rewarding students with candy as a disciplinary tool. Like, divide the class into four teams, and whoever behaves the best/answers questions correctly gets some candy at the end of the class. It worked really well like 99% of the time. But one time, I messed up and accidentally gave the wrong team candy. This caused another team to start shouting and eventually, crying (they were 2nd graders). I felt really bad, so I gave the other team candy, the team that should have won. But then the other 2 teams, who didn't win AND didn't get candy, started whining and crying too, presumably because they couldn't understand my horrible broken-Mandarin explanation of what I was doing. So I smiled really wide and said "it's your lucky day - EVERYONE GETS CANDY!" and gave everyone candy, thinking that would satisfy everyone. But then the first group I had given candy to - wrongly - started stomping, crying, screaming, because everyone had gotten candy and no one had really deserved it. It was anarchy, and then the bell rang and I got the fuck out of there. I tried so hard to please everyone, I was giving everyone candy for FREE, and yet everyone was so fucking pissed and crazy.

Like, do you really need to go on a walk to calm down because two writers are like "sheesh we're doing our best, you guys are fucking crazy"?

i read that whole interview looking for outrage and...wtf there are some crazy ppl on this thread, i think i need to not read this anymore, y'all are only going to get worse and more agitated in the next week and a half? have fun and bye