DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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Cameron introduces new minister for Local Government:

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"The Nail on the Bannister" by R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:10 (sixteen years ago)

(by making it possible for them to make council tax increases subject to a referendum).

Aren't local councils elected?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

But they keep electing the wrong ones

"The Nail on the Bannister" by R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

raising council tax is the tory govt's job

Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

... that was the problem the last time the Tories were in (xp)

"The Nail on the Bannister" by R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

I'm guessing there's going to be a whole lot more Labour councils in the coming few years than there have been in the last few years

"The Nail on the Bannister" by R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

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caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

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caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:18 (sixteen years ago)

... that was the problem the last time the Tories were in (xp)

Poll taxes?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:19 (sixteen years ago)

Always think a good Tory MP needs to look like a Dickens villain, and Pickles brings that in spades.

Coalition (Remix) (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:19 (sixteen years ago)

Also, does this coalition thing mean that Messers Cameron and Clegg have to wear blue and yellow ties, repectively, for the next five years?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

Hadn't thought about this:

The government could still change mid-term (a PM loses confidence of House, Queen asks someone else to see if they form a new government), but the parliament would stay in place.
http://www.globaldashboard.org/2010/05/12/libcon-agreement/

Can you force a PM to go, though? Or does the PM have to voluntarily resign.

stet, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

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caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

He's going to be the most ridiculed figure in politics in a couple of months. Apart from Gosbourne maybe.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:20 (sixteen years ago)

pickles brings a lot in spades

caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

Is he really heterosexual?

"The Nail on the Bannister" by R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:21 (sixteen years ago)

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caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

Don't know who Pickles is but his tailor certainly needs horsewhipping. (The Tories are still for that, right?)

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

what's this all abaht then?

Well, when I started middle school every child was fingerprinted by the police, this would be the early 80s. I thought this was widespread practice.

Hang Parliament (DavidM), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

The on who smelt it dealt it, eh Ken? (xxp)

"The Nail on the Bannister" by R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

The government could still change mid-term (a PM loses confidence of House, Queen asks someone else to see if they form a new government), but the parliament would stay in place.

Ah, pining for the days of the Long Parliament, eh?

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

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This image is amazing. Like an Edward Hopper painting done by Banksy.

The Clegg Effect (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:25 (sixteen years ago)

haha, don't.

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ws.

caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:26 (sixteen years ago)

Ok, so 55% thing might solely refer to dissolution of parliament (and GE trigger)? If sitting gov't Queen's Speech is voted down, PM will have to resign and allow another coalition to form? Trying to imagine how this would work in practice; LD-Con lose major supply bill vote (due to substantial LD rebellion (can this happen? Whipped so it can't?)) by just a couple of votes (not 358-292+), Cameron has to stand down and allow another gov't to form?

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:27 (sixteen years ago)

Can't believe people are still doing Frank Spencer in 2010.

Coalition (Remix) (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

Ooooh Betty! The Dems has done a whoopsie on the country!

he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves (snoball), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

I think it only applies to the confidence votes which force an election, but yeah, if there's no 50%+1 majority to get anything done then i don't see how cameron can avoid calling one.

caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:31 (sixteen years ago)

I guess this means what we're actually stuck with, give or take by-elections/defections, is five years of 307-258-57-28. How those numbers actually arrange themselves into governing blocs, or who is in charge at the top, can change without the 55% proviso. You just don't get another election.

I'm still not happy.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:33 (sixteen years ago)

Hopefully the libdem vote will implode in the Thirsk and Malton election in a fortnight's time and the libdem's get a screaming case of the wobblies.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

We understand that Baroness Warsi is to become Conservative Party chairman. She will part of the cabinet - the first Muslim woman ever to hold such a senior political position.

^^^ pickles out.

caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:34 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, if there's no 50%+1 majority to get anything done then i don't see how cameron can avoid calling one.
this is worst of all though, because now he *can't* call one unless he does a German-style dodge.

stet, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:35 (sixteen years ago)

this is the kind of thing the lords are there to block right?

Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:35 (sixteen years ago)

god bless the house of lords

show me your buccina (ken c), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

Pickles is now Communities Secretary iirc xxps

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, it's not in any manifesto so surely. xp

stet, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

5.20pm: Here's an afternoon summary.

• David Cameron has continued to appoint new ministers to his government. Downing Street has not published a full list, but according to reliable reports the new appointments include: Jeremy Hunt, culture secretary; Philip Hammond, transport secretary; Andrew Mitchell, international development secretary; Francis Maude, Cabinet Office minister; Eric Pickles, communities secretary; Caroline Spelman, environment secretary; and Lady Warsi, Conservative party chairman.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

Con+Lib in Lords 260, Lab+x-bench 356

stet, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:38 (sixteen years ago)

Just remembered that the Olympics will happen midway through this parliament, am revolted by the idea of David Cameron revelling in any glory from that.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:41 (sixteen years ago)

Still am x1000 more annoyed by Boris revelry in same. We know who secured the Olympics.

tweedledee and tweedledem (suzy), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

Ken can be back in time for the olympics though?

show me your buccina (ken c), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

or can he?

show me your buccina (ken c), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:48 (sixteen years ago)

can I?

show me your buccina (ken c), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:48 (sixteen years ago)

im p revolted by the incredible waste of money that is the olympics tbh! what glory?

Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:48 (sixteen years ago)

Let's wait and see if they're actually profitable xposts

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

has an olympics ever been profitable?

show me your buccina (ken c), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

hoping for Broken Even Britain at least

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:50 (sixteen years ago)

xxxxp

Obviously missing something, but who is that gorgeous women up the page a bit? don't tell me she's Tory

sonofstan, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:53 (sixteen years ago)

nick clegg's wife

caek, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:55 (sixteen years ago)

Thought he might have meant Eric Pickles.

Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:56 (sixteen years ago)

If this coalition holds together then it would likely be in the interest of the tories Tories to change their position and support AV. AV as a voting system can institutionalize coalition governments (at least it has in Australia). LDs and Tories can run candidates in the same electorate without disadvantaging either party, provided they exchange preferences.
Of course the coalition or the LDs will probably break apart in the meantime anyway, so...

KDB, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 16:58 (sixteen years ago)


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