Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

also getting a real original sin angle here re: people are bad, jacob u r the innocent moppet, gotta get us some born on the island babies which is making me v v wary about any further explanations of the magical light in the ground.

Seems to be some division on whether or not Smokey is actually an entity that predates MiB or if he's actually the unbodied spirit of MiB. If he's the former, he probably needs to be confined there for some reason, but if he's the latter, I hope he fucking kills everyone and finally gets off the island...because that dude got a raw deal from all ends.

what is in marcellus wallace's suitcase

yeah if they dont explain why or how jacob can go off-island before the end of the show thats just bad writing at this point tbh xposts

i was thinking other peeps like dharma or whatever found various was to exploit the island's powers through new technologies and shit

smokey just wants to buy an ipad, ride a bike, go to the cinema

Well, the donkey wheel got built by someone at some point. Seems a little crude to be a Dharma action, though.

I like how this episode was all about "Jacob, the messiah figure/person with all the answers that Jack and Locke and Ben (and others) have been pursuing as the answer to all their problems for the past several seasons, is actually kind of a moron." I'm glad the LOST creators are cruel enough to do this.

sure some other dudes came along before dharma and messed around with crap xp

yeah i'm sure the mother finished building the wheel in between bashing MIBs head against the wall and killing the villagers and filling the well up

why not? chick has some chops

yeah she's good at the loom and bashing peoples heads with rocks

so basically the island because some homicidal woman alone on a island introduced in the second to last episode says so

so basically the island is important....

SHE’S THE PROCECTOR OF THE LIGHT YO

protector WHATEVER

fucking show

I was literally watching it salivating at the chance to complain about it

this show has turned me into something I was not before I watched it

obsessed with birds, dogs, and puns?

the proctor of the light

this episode should have been narrated by ben

ben who?

ben...dover

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island better be a spaceship

i was really hoping for some magnetic incident, similar to what we saw with desmond in his episode, which turns titus into smokey. was this too much to ask? i mean i thought this show was about how magnets work. now it's about light.

cause when the light hits the water...

who are some of the past season characters they haven't shown this season
cuz if they are going to shoehorn a bunch of people into the last episode I doubt it'll get to the heights of

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'How was Jacob getting off of the island to fuck with the 815ers off-island lives? And, for that matter, how the FUCK was he getting back? And who was holding down the fort when he was gone? Shouldn't Smokenstein have been able to peace out, as soon as Jacob was gone?'

Dogen's magic baseball was holding down the fort I think.

who are some of the past season characters they haven't shown this season

walt
be-a-clue
juliet's sister
annie (i figured the reason they never did a ben/annie episode was to avoid the mistakes of the phantom menace. i guess not, after this ep)

i can't wait until the series is long over and some of the writers start speaking out about how ridiculous their jobs were

I bet the writing staff is simply the first five homeless guys who asked Lindelof for "a little help" one day.

Seems to be some division on whether or not Smokey is actually an entity that predates MiB or if he's actually the unbodied spirit of MiB. If he's the former, he probably needs to be confined there for some reason, but if he's the latter, I hope he fucking kills everyone and finally gets off the island...because that dude got a raw deal from all ends.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:54 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not to force the issue, but i really don't understand how anyone can still be on the fence about this, unless they basically would accept nothing less than a long lingering shot of MIB's body dissolving into black smoke, which they all but stopped short of doing.

if his body dissolved into black smoke, what's that thing that jacob buried with octomom?

well i mean yeah it didn't but people acting like his dead body floating down the river contradicts the MIB=Smokey thing are weird imo

*shrug*

So anyway, there's this magical other timeline that people can access somehow...

this episode ruled

That better be sarcasm, there.

what is in marcellus wallace's suitcase

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:57 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

said this to my wife while watching the episode

this was crap, imo

if the adam & eve skeletons were meant to prove they had a plan all along they failed miserably.

― abanana, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:27 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seriously -- it was a character not mentioned until halfway through season 3, and a character not introduced until the end of season 6!

OTM

the island is protecting an incredibly vague "light" entity that is everything and nothing imaginable.

stick a wooden wheel in the light and shit happens.

smokey is a truly sympathetic character has every reason to want to leave the island.

adam & eve are smokey and his fake crazy mom.

i appreciated all of this

This feels like something Cuse/Lindelof thought would be cool to do four years ago, and stubbornly stuck with even after it became obvious it was a semi-waste of an hour.― Grisly Addams (WmC), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this is sorta otm. i mean, the actual episode itself was hammy and poorly done---it probably would have been better executed earlier in the series, when there was less pressure for it to be The Ep That Explains It All---but otherwise as ~explanations~ go, it seems about as reasonable as any bullshit sci-fi imaginarium backstory.

well i mean yeah it didn't but people acting like his dead body floating down the river contradicts the MIB=Smokey thing are weird imo

― some dude, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:37 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

no but what does contradict it is him really pointedly saying "GOODBYE, BROTHER" at the end. he practically said it to the camera

yeah, this wasn't amazing or anything but I'm going to go with the boilerplate response of "If you've been watching this show for 6 seasons, I don't know why you're complaining about this episode in particular." It wasn't any stupider than anything else that's been going on. I think people just complain more now because even though it's always been dumb, it used to have the potential that something awesome would happen and wrap everything up in a satisfying way, and now we're losing that potential.

While I am as guilty of speculating about the identity of Adam & Eve skeletons as anyone, it's a bit presumptuous to assume they'd be people from the cast who went back in time and not what old skeletons normally are -- people you don't know from a long ass time ago.

"it used to have the potential that something awesome would happen and wrap everything up in a satisfying way"
these are incompatible goals for a series! Can't be both awesome and satisfying.

guys seriously here is an exercise: start speaking, aloud, a well-crafted sensical reason for why there is a magic island that moves through space and time, powered by magnets, with two immortal weirdos trying and failing to kill each other, that crashes planes and gives people superpowers, and has hidden a magic well that teleports you off the island or turns you into smoke, and then see how long it takes to realize that you sound like a crazy person.

we are in the realm of radioactive spiders and wizards, ppl, i figure they tidied up the backstory as well as they could in one episode. would've been better if they'd established it as a point of order like five fucking seasons ago---nothing revealed affects the main characters ~that~ much beyond clarifying that the island needs protecting by some schmo willing to be a murdering sissy and that getting off, once you're there, is really fukkin difficult. there's still a lot unexplained, but i'm caring less about that shit, tbh---even after last week's garbage, i care more about the ppl on 815 than jacob and smokey

I get what you're saying about explanations being impossible but why do the final episodes have to be done in the style of some disney channel reject show

I'm not looking for sense just excitement

I'm american goddammit

YES! USA! USA!